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Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid - welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard - both for starting this, and for covering the previous week. We should get a bot to automate this...)

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[-] gerikson@awful.systems 2 points 47 minutes ago

Coindesk: Major bitcoin wallet flaw drains $38 million worth of BTC in 25-minute sweep

A wallet's seed, the secret phrase controlling the funds, is meant to be drawn at random from a pool so vast that guessing is hopeless.

Coldcard's firmware was not doing that. According to a report published by Block's Bitcoin engineering and security teams, a build setting told the device to skip its own hardware randomness generator, and a check in a supporting library tested only whether that setting existed rather than whether it was switched on.

Key generation quietly fell through to a basic software substitute seeded from the chip's serial number and clock registers.

[-] lurker@awful.systems 2 points 1 hour ago

The OpenAI hacking incident has put everyone on edge. Anthropic, not to be outdone, decides to publicly announce that they have committed not one, not two, but three crimes! Come on! I was told this wasn't a marketing campaign!

[-] lurker@awful.systems 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

The reason these (one of these incidents dates back to April, so they’re really not beating the “marketing campaign” allegations) happened in the first place is because of human error on their end, mind you

“AI safety focused” my ass

[-] samvines@awful.systems 5 points 5 hours ago

Waiting for Musk to turn up and announce "infinity plus one more than you can ever say nah nah nah nah" momentarily!

TBF he has indirectly killed a bunch of people via doge cuts so that'd do the trick...

[-] gerikson@awful.systems 14 points 1 day ago
[-] BigMuffN69@awful.systems 11 points 16 hours ago

Sir, a 2nd EA adj. SF based hedge fund has managed to lose 40 billion dollars

[-] BigMuffN69@awful.systems 8 points 16 hours ago

Also apparently young leo is getting married to Dario's Chief of staff this weekend lmaou

[-] BigMuffN69@awful.systems 6 points 16 hours ago

This is my xmas, ty santa

[-] scruiser@awful.systems 10 points 20 hours ago

The cope on lesswrong is funny. They are in denial that this is a sign of a wider bubble pop and are insisting it is just because he didn't hedge on long enough timelines.

[-] rook@awful.systems 6 points 12 hours ago

he didn’t hedge on long enough timelines

Duh. Everybody knows the market never stays irrational for long, and you should just tough it out.

[-] BigMuffN69@awful.systems 10 points 16 hours ago

"From my perspective as an uninformed spectator, I would expect the bets made by Situational Awareness to be positive EV over the long run."

Actually the value of his calls in the long run is 0, don't worry I'm giving this hot financial tip for free. Do these dorks not understand options work? I guess neither did young leo.

Remember, there's no crying in the casino. *though i have a feeling Leo will continue to fail upward ;_;

[-] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 7 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

The LW insider thinks Aschenbrenner is trying to save a stake in Anthropic. I think that is very likely because the press release stressed "public stock position" and Anthropic is privately owned.

Edit / I don't think Thomas Kwa of METR and LW understands leverage. The idea is that if you borrow $40.5b on $4.5b of collateral, you have $45b to invest but a 10% drop will wipe you out. Before you get there the bank will knock on your door and say "margin call! either you provide more collateral or we seize your assets."

[-] BigMuffN69@awful.systems 5 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

"He sold? Pamp it"

Intel up 11% in the day and 5% in the after hours. Really looks like big players took the boy out back behind the woodshed to see what swimming with the sharks feels like and devour his entire port at a discount.

[-] fullsquare@awful.systems 5 points 13 hours ago

sounds like he took the hedge part out of hedge fund, and then margin call took out the fund part

[-] lagrangeinterpolator@awful.systems 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Before the days of AI 2027, he became famous in 2024 for posting one of the original pieces of writing in the line-go-up genre: Situational Awareness. It seems that like any good grifter, he used this opportunity to make money (in this case by starting a hedge fund).

[-] EFreethought@awful.systems 7 points 14 hours ago

Here is the first sentence: "You can see the future first in San Francisco. "

I feel like I already know everything I need to know about him.

[-] Evinceo@awful.systems 7 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

You can see the future first in San Francisco

🔮"I see a city street. Massive wealth disparity and a lot of homeless... Jesus that's a lot of homeless"

[-] scruiser@awful.systems 4 points 5 hours ago

GDP is up though, so I'm sure the AI god prosperity will trickle down eventually.

[-] istewart@awful.systems 8 points 16 hours ago

By 2025/26, these machines will outpace many college graduates.

tick tick tick tick

(I am choosing to forego the obvious jibe that the models fulfilled this prophecy by dragging many college graduates down beneath them)

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 3 points 6 hours ago

That fits the pattern, when AI isn't living up to the sky high promises, the promoters act like people are less special than they are.

See how a debate about are they conscious often devolves into 'are humans conscious?'

[-] gerikson@awful.systems 4 points 5 hours ago

yeah it's a common trope/cope

like "most human programmers suck too"

ok dude who do you think wrote the code the LLM is cribbing from

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 2 points 5 hours ago

It really grinds my gears.

[-] scruiser@awful.systems 5 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

good grifter

Not denying that he isn't also a grifter, but I bet he is a true believer and he had blindly bet his (and other people's) money on "line goes up" exactly like his scenario said and that is why he is the first one to crack.

[-] gerikson@awful.systems 10 points 1 day ago
[-] antifuchs@awful.systems 3 points 20 hours ago

Great idea, let’s seastead a data center next to some low income sea steading communities.

[-] nfultz@awful.systems 4 points 1 day ago

I see you, and raise by a Gundam solar space laser - https://www.reflectorbital.com/

[-] fnix@awful.systems 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Oh, I've seen this one before. At least we know where the LLM who gave them this pitch scraped the idea from.

[-] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

On land, cooling and water are among a site's largest costs.

Oh gosh that sounds... uhmm not too bad actually? I wonder what the largest costs are at sea with a floating nuclear reactor in salt water and tugged around by large ships.

[-] rook@awful.systems 15 points 1 day ago

Salt water is famously a forgiving environment to build in, and oceanic weather is benign and predictable. Not that it would be a problem anyway, because move-fast-and-break-things people can be trusted to do the right thing when it comes to running delicate equipment in places more hostile than mid california, and will not skimp on staffing and maintenance. You can look at all the the successful seasteading operations to see how well this will go.

There are also no problems I can foresee with putting a bucketload of fissiles in international waters, with no scope for finally uniting old-school piracy with new-school piracy, either. This plan is great, and no-one will have a problem with it.

[-] fullsquare@awful.systems 3 points 1 day ago

but you see, in case of accident they can just dump reactor core into seawater which will provide ample cooling and shielding. no biggie, just put multi thousand ton object that requires a village of engineers to work out on high seas

there are normal nuclear powerplants that use seawater as coolant and they're all on shore. these require a lot of corrosion resistant heat exchangers along the way. there is one power barge like this, it provides power to russian far east, whole 70MW of it, costed 414 million dollars and needs 300 people onsite. your guess is as good as mine how many of them are military. 70MW, aka two or three aeroderivative gas turbines

YES LET'S NUKE THE FUCKING OCEAN. FUCK YOU FISH WE NEED OUR SLOP.

[-] gerikson@awful.systems 8 points 1 day ago

A LWer runs the numbers and doesn't run away screaming like Zitron:

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/EeTQGxa8RSpwHo4Ez/the-biggest-bet-in-history

Note that this implies massive efficiency gains to the economy. For their one-third slice to equal 8% of those salaries [59% of the total workforce in the USA], the total savings (productivity across that share of the workforce) will need to rise by roughly 24%. So they are absolutely serious about this, and are betting heavily that the productivity boost arrives within four years.

[-] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 8 points 1 day ago

(there's actually one other dynamic, in which they all know someone will lose, and are just hoping it isn't them, but that's another post)

Uh huh.

[-] Architeuthis@awful.systems 11 points 1 day ago

Guys guys guys hear me out guys what if I say what if uh the market can't be irrational? Because of all the money? That would be really cool right?

But using like 2000 words.

[-] gerikson@awful.systems 10 points 1 day ago

"surely all these very wealthy people and the people they pay to invest for them can't all be under some sort of mass delusion"

[-] lagrangeinterpolator@awful.systems 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There is something about this picture, a warehouse full of books to be destroyed by Anthropic for training data, that just makes me sick. Knowing that they are destroying books in the abstract is bad enough, but seeing the sheer scale of it makes me viscerally angry.

Karen Hao called her book Empire of AI for a very good reason. The empire has all these noble narratives of bringing civilization and progress to the colonies, but in reality the empire only sees resources to be extracted, repackaged, and sold back to their subjects at a fee. Kudos to those who saw this immediately and fought against it. Shame on those who believed in the narrative of progress, to the point where many of them are collaborators with the empire.

Whenever a smarmy fellow on Linkedin posts about how AI is making so much progress in coding or math, I want them to see this picture. I want them to see the videos of families in tears after a data center takes away their home with eminent domain, and other families who have to deal with the resulting pollution. Go beyond the bloodless math of tokens and instead see for yourself what this all truly costs. I hope it was worth it.

[-] lurker@awful.systems 4 points 1 day ago

Fuck Anthropic. Snotty little bastards want to talk about AI safety and then destroy books to make a pollution machine.

What kills me is that there are so many obvious ways to be less wasteful about this. Nondestructive book scanners exist. They're expensive but it's not like AI companies are averse to throwing money down a fucking hole. Even if that's not an option, it's possible to rebind the pages and return the books to the market. And regardless of what happens to the physical books, the scans they create could be archived in a format that could be available as a digital library rather than just being fed into the statistical meat grinder to keep the trough topped off with slop. Even if they've got to fight with copyright holders it would cost them basically nothing to leave the option open and given the PR battle they've been losing it feels like doing so would be incredibly obvious. Hell, even Google Books was able to navigate this in a way that was less cartoonishly evil than this because they could point to their digitization effort as a public good in ways that Anthropic here just fucking can't.

[-] corbin@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago

The reason that they are destroying the books is to avoid the accusation that the scanning constituted copying, an irony that we've discussed previously, on Awful while trying to understand which court cases are relevant. Anthropic actually hired the same guy, Tom Turvey, who designed Google Books' ingestion process, so I'm thinking of this as a sequel to Google Books; hopefully the courts won't take a decade this time.

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