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Want to wade into the sandy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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First post on awful.systems. TechTakes seemed the most relevant place to post this but it has some overlap with (or at least a request for) NotAwfulTech. I have been sitting on this write-up for some time but recent events turbocharged of my feelings.

TL;DR: The influencerization of tech culture has impaired my ability to properly learn tech stuff from anything other than honest-to-god books.

First, some context: In 2014, game developer Casey Muratori started the project "Handmade Hero": a complete video game, written from scratch, one livestream at a time. As of 2023 (after 667 episodes) the project is on hiatus and will probably not be picked up again. In the wake of Handmade Hero, two organizations were created by fans of the series. The first, Handmade Network, is a place for like-minded people to advertise and discuss their "from scratch" projects and is the main hub of the community. The second one, Handmade Cities, hosts conferences and meetups a few times a year. A notable one of these conferences takes place every year in Seattle.

The "Handmade Community" can be best described by those it seeks to emulate. Muratori and his friend Jonathan Blow frequently decry the state of modern software. Performance has gone down the drain, developers no longer know how the machine behaves, ... The community's manifesto makes it clear they see the problem with individual developers, not the broader culture in which they operate. Don't worry about systemic issues, just use struct-of-arrays instead of array-of-structs. That being said, systems that are allowed to be criticized are universities for not teaching decent programming in a computer science curriculum, thereby cheating their students.

This became very clear in the aftermath of Handmade Seattle 2024. After a keynote by Andrew Kelley, the creator of Zig, the community imploded. Kelley mildly talked about systemic issues. For example, not everyone has the available free time and capital to spend on multiple hobby projects outside of work. As a response to this talk (and other issues), Handmade Network split from Handmade Cities. But where should the community circlejerk continue now?

Enter BSC, the Better Software Conference. Under the tagline "Software is getting worse. We're here to make it better.", an invite-only conference took place last July. The list of speakers made it clear this was a fresh start for "real" conferences in the Handmade community. Most of the talks are available on YouTube, with many gushing comments on "information density", being a "breath of fresh air" and "excellent talks". I disagree. Talks were too long, the math talk contained horrible pedagogy, Q&A was extremely circlejerk-y, some talks presented funky new ideas that apparently have been known for decades (thanks to the few YouTube comments that pointed me to actual resources).

The conference page tries its best to be vague, but two of the three organizers were also speakers. Unsurprisingly, they retweet Curtis Yarvin and decry the state of western civilization. In the wake of the Charlie Kirk shooting, Ryan Fleury (BSC speaker, community darling and self-professed libertarian) started spreading the expected takes on free speech. Jonathan Blow (not explicitly part of the community but an honorary member and idol) is known for his opinion of women in tech and antivax takes. Muratori himself never explicitly talks politics, but at a minimum he doesn't mind being in a nazi-bar made from scratch.

And these are the people being recommended to me. I used to be able to search for concepts to learn and find high-quality videos of people drawing diagrams on paper and filming it with a potato camera. Now I have to scroll through ten videos of ThePrimeagen declaring his switch from Rust to Zig to Go to Odin. Or scroll through a blog post by someone using garbage collectors to make an ancap joke about inefficient governments. Everyone spends more time bashing other people/languages/software than actually explaining concepts and tradeoffs. Especially since becoming a parent, the advice "Just watch Handmade Hero. The first 30 episodes will do." rings extremely hollow. Taking that advice would mean dedicating all of my free time during several months to that and that alone. If these people have families to take care of, it is obvious someone is making it possible for them to spend their time on this.

With this and DHH going full mask-off I am not sure I feel like I can have a place in tech anymore. Discussions on technology are excuses for dick-measuring and insulting people only to later claim that actually you are Dutch and it is in your culture to be an asshole.

Where are the places to discuss the systemic issues in tech and have non-judgemental discussions on solving problems? For the first part, this place has been pleasant to lurk for the past years. For the second part, I'm not so sure.

In the meantime, I will just keep reading Knuth a page at a time. And cuddle with my family.

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Featuring David Heinemeier Hansson, Andreas Kling, and even disgraced Linux dude Bryan Lunduke.

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originally posted to the stubsack but it makes more sense as a top level post.

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Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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The guests:

[Dick Gay], who had flown in for the event from Los Angeles and said he was one of the investors of Sperm Racing (which is an actual thing wherein men compete to see whose sperm is “fastest” under a microscope), said he attended the University of Austin, or UATX, an “anti-woke” college reportedly partially funded by Thiel, and built his career around the principles outlined in Thiel’s book “Zero to One.”

Attendee Justin Park said he just wanted to pitch Thiel on putting a 7.5-foot cross on the moon.

[Unnamed], who was in his 30s, said he wasn’t a Thiel fan until last year, when he became a Trump supporter after seeing the president survive an assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania. “I misunderstood [Thiel],” he said. “I used to watch CNN and think he’s a Nazi.” Now, he said, he understands the billionaire is talking about something bigger.

The Speech:

Apparently it was both repetitive and mostly a rehash of what he's said in other media.

Yud is the Antichrist confirmed:

One attendee recalled that Thiel’s discussion of the Antichrist was more about a scenario than an individual. Thiel’s Antichrist scenario is one in which a unified government suppresses technology to impose order, or armageddon, wherein AI takes over and ushers in the end of the world.

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Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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