[-] Evinceo@awful.systems 1 points 55 minutes ago

That was when he got a very gentle NYT bio and flipped his lid.

[-] Evinceo@awful.systems 6 points 2 days ago

Aella showed up.

[-] Evinceo@awful.systems 9 points 2 days ago

in a nation that has been quietly cultivating a culture of heroic violence for decades we shouldn’t be surprised to see people trying to inflict that fear and rage upon the outside world.

Nay a culture where every citizen is entitled to one armed crashout and threats of such have been an important lever used by the party that believes in that entitlement for decades.

[-] Evinceo@awful.systems 5 points 3 days ago

His substack reads like LW.

[-] Evinceo@awful.systems 1 points 3 days ago

feel like the analogy to the drug trade is still pretty relevant given the violence and predation that the black market pretty much inevitably attracts and sustains. Like, maybe you know a guy who has his own grow op or whatever, but cocaine and heroin money is going through the cartels at some point in the chain and they’re going to use some portion of it for bullets that end up in some journalist’s kids or something.

I lost something in my brevity but my point was the question of how practical stopping a practice is. Alcohol is a ruinous force for bad at every level of society from homeless to Hegseth but a ban won't work because it literally cannot be enforced, we tried, it failed. It's made by yeast! AI on the other hand is only sustained at great expense by a delicate chain of high tech, high energy systems. It's a choice.

While I don’t think we should allow slop to invest every forum any more than addicts should be allowed to shoot up on every corner, I think that if shaming makes people less likely to acknowledge that they’re going down a dead-end road and reach out to their communities and support networks for help addressing the root of what drove them to these maladaptive antisolutions in the first place then shaming is making things worse, not better.

The pendulum is so far on the other side that I can't even entertain the analogy of AI users being poor harried addicts hiding their use. My boss tells me to use more AI every day. I hate it and I want everyone to hate it. The emotion I want people to associate with it is disgust. Disgust is a powerful emotion, and it dehumanizes those it is associated with.

[-] Evinceo@awful.systems 1 points 3 days ago

If they understand that AI is like germs I do not care if sometimes people eat food off the floor following the ten second rule. But we aren't even there yet, people think it's like gold or mana from heaven or something.

[-] Evinceo@awful.systems 11 points 3 days ago

I would once again like to gloat that I called it.

[-] Evinceo@awful.systems 9 points 3 days ago

After the first copycat maybe some calls got made /tinfoil

[-] Evinceo@awful.systems 13 points 4 days ago

Which is both the original transhumanist cope to enable so-called consciousness upload so it’s not just copying a simulacrum of your personality to a computer while you continue to rot away

Often-missed point btw.

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I haven't read the whole thread yet, but so far the choice line is:

I like how you just dropped the “Vance is interested in right authoritarianism” like it’s a known fact to base your entire point on. Vance is the clearest demonstration of a libertarian the republicans have in high office. It’s an absurd ad hominem that you try to mask in your wall of text.

[-] Evinceo@awful.systems 30 points 2 years ago

Why Do I Hate Pronouns More Than Genocide?

I had to google this but it's real.

[-] Evinceo@awful.systems 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Fails to list SlateScott as a controversial guest.

Also, did he just use a bang path to refer to a racist dude's Twitter persona? Seeing old school lore adopted by these mutants gives me heartburn.

Oh, and that bit at the end disclaiming it as an EA event despite it clearly being an EA event is classic "decoupler" (or, if you like, responsibility avoider.)

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The actually not even really a hatchet job NYT piece on SlateScott that mostly just called him a weird little guy has nonetheless created a festering psychic wound that oozes to this day. Here manifests as an interview with the author on LW. See also: discussion on reddit.

My favorite section, talking about how people are mad that be brought up Scott's notorious race stuff™️:

CM: That's great. That's a valid position. There are other valid positions where people say, we need to not go so close to that, because it's dangerous and there's a slippery slope. The irony of this whole situation is that some people who feel that I should not have gone there, who think I should not explore the length and breadth of that situation, are the people who think you should always go there.

[-] Evinceo@awful.systems 82 points 2 years ago

Techbro was originally used to describe the type of men who made it difficult for women in tech, then somewhere along the line the general public realized the same dudes were also making it difficult for lots if people in lots of places.

If tech folks never actually acted like frat bros, the bro appellation never would have happened. I've worked in offices with Kegs cor crissakes.

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Hounding the president of Harvard out of a job because you think she's a DEI hire is one thing, but going after a Billionaire's wife? How dare these journalists! What big bullies.

Bonus downplaying of EA's faults. He of course phrases the Bostrom affair as someone being "accused" of sending a racist email, as if there were any question as to who sent it, or if it was racist. And acts like it's not just the cherry on top of a lifetime of Bostrom's work.

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Utilitarian brainworms or one of the many very real instances of a homicidal parent going after their disabled child? I can't decide, but it's a depressing read.

May end up on SRD, but you read it here first.

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Someone posted this on ssc with a warning about talking to cops, but really just marvel at what's going on here.

Aaronson manages to turn a story where he is briefly arrested for a theft (which he did commit on video!) into paragraphs and paragraphs of indulging in his persecution fantasies.

Zero empathy on display for the people he stole from, the people just doing their jobs, or reflection on the fact that it wasn't a simple little mistake anyone could make but rather... a fairly weird move? Do people usually put change in cups?

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