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submitted 3 days ago by compostgoblin@slrpnk.net to c/mtf

I’ve been questioning and curious, and I wanted to talk to some people about my experience, who know more about being trans than I do.

I am almost 30, I’m bisexual, and I was assigned male at birth. I was raised in a very Catholic household (and went to Catholic school from elementary through high school), so it wasn’t exactly an environment that was going to give me the language to understand who I was, or encouraged to explore my sexuality and gender identity.

I was always more emotional than my peers - my parents put me in wrestling and karate during elementary and middle school to “toughen me up”. Although that may have had to do with my RSD (rejection sensitive dysphoria) from my ADHD.

I never really enjoyed sports like wrestling or football - I ended up liking volleyball and distance running. I preferred hobbies that are more traditionally feminine, like baking and sewing. Don’t get me wrong, I also liked camping and stuff with Boy Scouts (not that camping and hiking are inherently masculine) but I definitely never felt like a super masculine as a kid.

I would get in trouble for growing my hair out as long as I was allowed to, and then some, and I got in trouble for wearing more jewelry than a Catholic school was appropriate for boys too (too many rings and necklaces). I was made fun of in middle and high school for wearing pink, or liking things that were too girly.

About 5 years ago, I started to identify as nonbinary, as I learned more about queerness and started to find the language to describe what I was feeling. When my wife came out to me as bi, I finally felt comfortable coming out as nonbinary to her. And since then, I’ve started to feel more confident expressing my gender differently, mostly in small ways, like growing my hair longer and painting my nails. I’ve still only come out as NB to a small handful of people, and day-to-day I probably present more as “eccentric guy” than anything else.

The thing that I’ve noticed, though, is that the less masculine I look, act, and present, the more I feel like myself. I feel like men’s clothing is so limiting, and I always feel out of place when I’m in a group of otherwise all guys.

I feel like If I had been born as a woman, I would prefer that to having been born male. And if I could flip a switch and instantly be a woman, I would. But I don’t experience the sort of revulsion at my genitals that I hear some trans people describe (although I do hate being so hairy).

All of that said, I don’t know what exactly it feels like to be trans, or be a woman, so I don’t know how to compare my experience to how I “should” or “shouldn’t” feel.

And obviously right now is a scary time in the US to be queer of any kind, so there’s a part of me that’s very scared about what if I am trans - what that would entail in terms of how people/my friends and family would react and treat me.

Anyway, I’m not trying to presume anything about the trans experience, and I apologize if anything I said seemed ignorant. I guess I’m just confused and looking for some insight and support, since there aren’t many people in real life that I can talk to about these things (wife and therapist aside).

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[-] gandalf_der_12te 1 points 19 hours ago

My experiences are pretty similar to yours. I don't enjoy "typical male activities", i don't like my body hair, i don't want to be seen as "strong", i just want to be seen as small and let my hair grow.

Fortunately, you don't have to be "all man" or "all woman". It's fine to not give yourself a label, and just be yourself. That is, in my opinion, the most healthy thing to do, if your circumstances allow it.

[-] dandelion 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I should say, as a trans woman, my experiences are pretty much the same as yours. In some sense I still don't "know" that I'm a trans person, but it seems like my desire to be a woman and my comfort with steps I have taken to become a woman indicate I'm probably trans.

Considering you were raised Catholic, it's hardly surprising you would struggle to conceive of yourself as or accept being trans.

Reading and watching certain things when I was at your point really helped me:

These were resources that helped expand my notion of what gender dysphoria could look like. Previously I thought trans women just knew they were girls from very early ages like 3 - 4 years old, and experienced extreme distress from that age on if not allowed to live as a girl, etc. - these resources opened my eyes to the variety of trans experiences and the different ways gender dysphoria can present.

I also personally found it helpful to read science articles about trans people, as it grounded my sense that something is happening biologically and that it's not just "social contagion" or anything like that. To that end:

  • Joshua Safer's "Evidence supporting the biologic nature of gender identity" (DOI)
  • Joshua Safer's "Etiology of Gender Identity" (DOI)
  • the collective research of Daphna Joel and Dick Swaab for the current scientific theories of "brain-sex" (which likely plays a role in gender identity and gender dysphoria):
    • Joel & Swaab, 2019, "The Complex Relationships between Sex and the Brain", (DOI)
    • Joel, 2015, "Sex beyond the genetalia: The human brain mosaic", (DOI)
    • Swaab, 2008, "A sex difference in the hypothalamic uncinate nucleus: relationship to gender identity", (DOI)
    • Swaab, 2000, "Male-to-female transsexuals have female neuron numbers in a limbic nucleus", (DOI)
    • Swaab, 1995, "A sex difference in the human brain and its relation to transsexuality", (DOI)

Reading Swaab's work in particular was eye-opening, since trans women whose brains were autopsied were found to have structures in their brain that were like cis women and not like cis men, even without ever undergoing hormone therapy. While the picture that emerges with later research did not point to something as simple as "male" and "female" brains, it is particularly grounding to me to have empirical evidence like this that lends credibility to our experiences. It really is more accurate to say trans women have a "female brain" than to say trans women have a "mental illness" as though the gender identity were due to delusions or psychosis.

If reading scientific literature is challenging, the famous neuroendocrinologist, Robert Sapolsky, has some talks that summarize the situation:

Other scientific research that I found helpful early in transition is the empirical evidence that transitioning is actually effective for alleviating gender dysphoria and improving clinical outcomes with very low regret rates. This Cornell University systematic literature review summarizes research done on the effects of transition on well-being, and links to 51 different studies that collectively indicate that gender-affirming care improves the well-being of trans people:

What We Know Project, Cornell University, “What Does the Scholarly Research Say about the Effect of Gender Transition on Transgender Well-Being?”, 2018.

[-] Sop 4 points 1 day ago

If you want to hear it: you sound pretty trans to me! The real question you should ask yourself is if you’d like to change anything about your gender or presentation. Would you like to experiment with people using she/her pronouns? Would you like to get feminising hormones? Would you like to present feminine more often? Some of these are huge steps and others are easier. It’s difficult to know whether you’re a woman if you don’t have the experience to know what it entails. But it’s clear that you have a desire to present more feminine. I’d say just follow your instincts and experiment in any way you’d like. You might find yourself experimenting more and more until you realise that you are a woman. Or you realise that you love presenting feminine but rather call yourself non binary. Gender is a multidimensional noneuclidean spectrum :) You don’t need to check all boxes on some list to identify as trans. You don’t need bottom surgery to be a woman. Try to free yourself from the limitations and labels that you are so used to. It’s difficult but very liberating.

[-] compostgoblin@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Would you like to experiment with people using she/her pronouns?

I think so? I’ve used he/they for a while, but people tend to just go with the ‘he’, which feels less and less like me. And it reminds me that most everyone sees me as male, as little as I identify with that. I just need someone I can trust to try them out with without judgment

Would you like to get feminising hormones?

Possibly? It feels like a big commitment though, and I might need to look into having sperm preserved first, since my wife and I do want kids. The effects sound mostly like things I want, but it feels like a “point of no return“ that I don’t know if I’m ready for yet

Would you like to present feminine more often?

100%. My hair is getting pretty long, and I really like having my nails painted. I started shaving my chest, and I want to start shaving my legs and buy some women’s clothes, like skirts and tank tops. And I want to get my earlobes pierced soon to start wearing earrings (in addition to the cartilage piercings i already have). I already get pretty self conscious when I go to work just with long hair and painted nails though. It’s a more conservative field (engineering) so I feel very much like people are looking at me, or I’m the odd one out, and I get nervous about how much I’m pushing the boundaries of what people expect me to be like.

I think I’m going to keep doing more to present more feminine, especially at home, and probably have some conversations with my wife about trying out new pronouns a little.

Thank you for all the advice, I appreciate it :)

[-] LegoBrickOnFire@jlai.lu 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Crying in bed because I wasn't a girl should have been a definite tell :) But it always went better at some point before it became impossible to hold back so I never sought help. My teens were loops of doubts, then certainty but too scared to talk.

In my later adolescence I realised I (or started to) liked guys, and I was able to to feel better about being one. And I had a few adventures with guys as a guy which felt great and I thus believed that my trans phase had passed, for a few years.

During that time I often described myself as "I don't really care/I could be either, but people say I'm a guy so ok" but I still had a little (repressed?) desire to be seen as a girl. And I was weirdly emotional about being treated as a guy by laws that differentiate between men and women (military service/retirement age)

Then I had to work as a kitchen assistant, mostly with women, and being treated as a non-woman by them felt really bad. (Previously I was in an environment that didn't really feel gendered) And the outfit made me look vaguely feminine and I liked it and awoke my desires to be seen as a girl and experiment with clothing and nail polish.

As I experimented, it completely shattered my egg, I slowly came out to friends, and 14 days ago, started HRT!

[-] hazl 5 points 2 days ago

Your kitchen experience hits home. Every workplace I've been in I've related more to the women around me, and felt lonely for having them treat me like the other men. Not that genders are separate and cliquey like that in most places, but it's little comments and assumptions of the "well you're a man so you probably blah blah" sort that I find disheartening. Meanwhile I'm putting on this weird "how do you do, fellow men" act with the guys.

Also, we're HRT twins! Day 15 begins in 6 minutes for me.

[-] LegoBrickOnFire@jlai.lu 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You go girl! How's the HRT going?

And welcome on Lemmy :D

[-] hazl 1 points 1 day ago

Thanks 😘 I've actually lurked for a while as a .world in arguably the wrong spaces, but now feel like I can actually be active here since reworking my client into essentially a Blahaj portal.

I think the last couple of days have been my first tingle of E that isn't placebo. Feeling like I'm a person in the world rather than a viewer behind a screen. Maybe it is placebo and I'm just thrilled knowing what that little patch on my thigh is doing. I dunno. I'm happy. I'm not a happy person but I've been happy, despite other aspects of my life actually being kind of a mess right now.

Did they start you out with blockers as well or just E for the time being?

[-] LegoBrickOnFire@jlai.lu 1 points 1 day ago

Hihi, I feel much more at peace now too. I was directly put on blockers. I didn't know monotherapy existed ^^

[-] hildegarde 22 points 2 days ago

Weird right wingers kept going on about trans people, and I wanted to be informed about it and learned a few things about myself in the process.

I genuinely had no idea for most of my life. The signs were there all along but only in retrospect. It took me 2-3 years of questioning before I started transitioning. I was not ever truly certain I was trans until I started HRT, and everything started to feel fine, like genuinely fine. Didn't realize I was depressed from dysphoria my entire life because I had no point of comparison.

I certainly envy the trans people who were able to learn they were trans at an early age. The best time to transition is just before the start of puberty, the second best time is now.

[-] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 22 points 3 days ago

But I don’t experience the sort of revulsion at my genitals that I hear some trans people describe (although I do hate being so hairy).

There's so much variation in experiences. Being trans isn't defined by suffering even if lots of trans people do suffer.

Personally, realized I was NB in my late-20's a couple years ago. At first (like, for 2-3 weeks?) I considered myself agender but didn't identify with the "trans" label. Soon I realized I actually related a lot more to transfem experiences than I expected, so I accepted the trans label. I still like the agender and NB labels, but also consider myself transfem. I don't think of myself as a woman even though I now take E and have nuked my T levels.

[-] Filetternavn 5 points 2 days ago

I had a similar experience! When I first started questioning, I ended up concluding I was agender, but mostly because the feminine parts of me had been deeply repressed by childhood trauma and life experiences. It was probably 3 or 4 weeks where I was sure that's where my gender identity was, but that revelation came with a huge wave of dysphoria, and as I started presenting less masculinely, and explored femininity, I felt more and more like myself. I eventually hit a kind of breaking point where I realized that I was trans, and I've never been happier with myself after committing to it! I don't think of myself as agender anymore, but I related to your experience!

Yeah. The repression is quite relatable. Maybe eventually I'll decide I don't relate to the agender label or consider myself a NB woman. Used to be a lot more concerned about the answer to label questions, but eventually realized the answer didn't really matter: I can change presentation, hormones, etc regardless.

[-] apotheotic@beehaw.org 7 points 2 days ago

I'm trans as fuck, and had a very similar experience to you - right down to identifying as nonbinary for a while. Theres no "right way" to be trans, and like you I don't experience dysphoria from my genitals.

What I can suggest is that if you have people whom you trust and feel safe with, start trying on she/her pronouns with them. Perhaps ask your wife to try referring to you as her wife!

Whatever the outcome, remember that its going to be okay, you are valid, you are worthy of love, and gender is a spectrum.

[-] mxcory 2 points 2 days ago

I swear, if I figure out later that I am a trans woman, I am gonna be pissed! (Not really though.)

I identify as trans enby. I find it interesting that some enbies don't identify with being trans. I am curious what qualities some use as a line that after a certain point they would consider themselves trans. (Not pushing anyone, I am just a bit curious about others.)

Will say that my enby realization came while I had no dysphoria. For me, I could experience euphoria though. (May that could be considered a form of dysphoria, or I was just dense.) Even now I only experience a little dysphoria.

[-] apotheotic@beehaw.org 3 points 2 days ago

When I identified as enby I definitely also identified as trans. I think its likely that the enbies who are more toward "agender" will also decline the trans label as it can carry the baggage of gender to begin with. Nonbinary is a huuuuuuge umbrella so it makes sense that some will also adopt the trans label and some won't.

Totally valid if you're an enby forever or if you do find out you're a lady! I think many transfems may experience what I did, which is really just minimising ones own feelings - "nonbinary is okay because its not like I'm transfem or anything! real trans people have much more heavy feelings than I do" (cut to me daydreaming about being a woman and feeling uncomfortable seeing my own body in the shower). And then enby just serves as a handy stepping stone because its more "digestible" than transbinary.

Its easy enough to figure out - try on the full fem pronouns or adjectives or clothes or accessories or whatever!

Good luck to you :)

[-] mxcory 3 points 2 days ago

Thanks for the thoughtful reply. You rock.

[-] apotheotic@beehaw.org 2 points 1 day ago

Aw thanks! Keep doing your thing <3

[-] aberronaut 13 points 2 days ago

Hiking in the desert last spring and all the sudden it hit me, I never thought of it before and boom. I considered myself a semi normal guy and never knowingly had any interactions with trans folks until the morning of my outing.

After taking 3 month shots of Lupron for medical reasons for a year and a half, my doctor put me on a 6 month shot, a few weeks later I started having severe anxiety, I worried about everything and everybody, I was tense and emotional, had empathy like I’ve never known, after searching around, I decided I was having female menopause type episodes from having extremely low testosterone. I rode the emotions a few weeks and started feel a little loose physically, and just surfed the waves mentally

While waiting in line to get some direction for my hike I clocked a woman and thought ,Oh she knows what hormones do to emotions wish I could talk to her about it. Of course I didn’t, but I thought about her during the hike. My thinking was, she just said to herself fuck this I’m a girl and did it. I rolled that in my head the rest of the day and pretty much decided that's what I’m going to do. I’m 67, been a happy go luck guy my whole life, I would describe myself as your screwed up relative that never got their shit together but are happy with their life. After I got back home I asked around in the r/ place talked my oncologist into some patches and feel really incredibly grateful to have stumbled into this at the backend of my life.

[-] zea_64 11 points 2 days ago

I think you're overthinking it. Transgender isn't one particular thing, it basically just means not cis (and even then there's people who kinda identify with their AGAB and kinda don't at the same time), so it's impossible to get more specific while still generalizing to all trans people.

Personally, I don't strongly identify with labels, I only really care about labels in how they help me quickly communicate with people.

[-] OldEggNewTricks 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

All of that said, I don’t know what exactly it feels like to be trans, or be a woman, so I don’t know how to compare my experience to how I “should” or “shouldn’t” feel.

I don't think anybody does. But "trans" and "woman" are just labels. I find it's more helpful to think about what you want to do.

I feel like If I had been born as a woman, I would prefer that to having been born male. And if I could flip a switch and instantly be a woman, I would.

You might like to reflect some more on what this implies about your gender.

For most of my life I identified as "just a regular dude... unfortunately". Possibly with a greater-than-usual interest in HRT and trans topics, and a rather persistent fantasy about having a female body.

Then I started briefly questioning, but was still "not trans... unfortunately". The thing that cracked me was seeing egg_irl memes of the "you can just be a girl; there's no entry requirements to be trans" variety. I realized that transitioning was something I desperately wanted all my life but didn't allow myself to consider, and that was that. A very sudden "ohhh shit I am trans" moment. I still doubt whether I'm "really trans", but I sure as hell don't want to stop transitioning!

Anyway, check out the Gender Dysphoria Bible (see the sidebar), stick around and I hope you manage to figure yourself out satisfactorily, whatever you turn out to be.

[-] compostgoblin@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

For most of my life I identified as "just a regular dude... unfortunately".

I felt that way for a long time (and still do sometimes). Being raised in a subculture that so heavily reinforces gender roles, it took a long time for me to understand the breadth of people’s gender experiences.

You might like to reflect some more on what this implies about your gender.

I define will, and fortunately, I have therapy this weekend. My therapist has been great about helping me work out some of my gender feelings in a positive and non-judgmental way

And thank you for recommending the sidebar! I’m usually on mobile, so I forget sidebars are a thing, I’ll check out the resources there

[-] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

thanks for pointing out the gender Bible, that's a helpful resource to share with my family!

[-] thezeesystem 11 points 3 days ago

Told my therapist I had that I was "broken" and had "bad" thoughts of girl clothes. She told me what being Transgender is with love and kindess and acceptance and learned "hey that's me"

Basically one therapy session with a good therapist.

[-] compostgoblin@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 days ago

Sounds like a great therapist, I’m glad you found her!

[-] squirrel 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Obligatory "Only you can decide who you are and who you want to be."
The trans community is usually very cautious not to tell other people who and what they are, because that's the negative experience that most of us made: Other people told us who we are and/or who were supposed to be (assigned gender and all that) and it went badly for most of us.

For me personally, I also lacked the language to express my gender feelings when I was young. I was a precocious, sensitive kid that had more female friends than boys usually had. Yet I did not reflect on my gender very much.
Only during puberty did I realize that something was off. I realized that I did not want to grow up to be a man and desired more than anything to be female. Yet I also lacked the language to express myself. I grew up in a small city with no visible queer scene, so I did not really know how to express myself and ultimately surrendered to grow up as everyone expected me to.

But it never felt right. "Maleness" was like clothes that did not fit me, no matter how hard I tried. I often felt like a "fake man" and that I had to perform maleness as much as possible, because people expected it from me and I was not good enough at it.
Meanwhile my desire to be female also never went away. Looking back I now understand that this was gender envy, but in the moment I experienced it as a constant yearning that pulled on me and while it got weaker from time to time, it never fully went away.

My only outlet were games and virtual spaces wherein I usually played female characters. The easiest way for me to lose interest in a game was if it forced me to play as a man.

My egg finally cracked when I realized that my gender envy encompassed trans women too: Why could they have a transition while I did not? Why could they take estrogen while I could not? Why could they wear female clothes, etc. These kind of thoughts ultimately led me to realize that I am trans myself, because I wanted to change my gender so much and I was the only one who could make that happen.

Ultimately my transition was not only an embrace of my own femaleness, but also a rejection of maleness.

[-] Melody@lemmy.one 11 points 3 days ago

WYKYK; "When you know, you know."

Don't rush yourself. Don't let anyone try to crack your "shell" or treat you like an egg if you feel uncomfortable with that. Be yourself and feel it out.

If after hearing a few testimonies and stories from other trans people you personally feel that experience more closely matches yours; by all means don't hesitate to consider yourself trans.

Explore our communities, hear some stories, explore the meanings on your own terms and find what fits!~

Welcome to being Queer/Questioning. <3 Lots of space to explore and even decide you want to venture out to explore under the even wider umbrella of being trans.

So yes; technically you could argue you're trans; even as you are. If that makes you comfortable; do it. If it does not; you don't have to. It's your own labels and your right to self-assign whatever labels you feel fit you best.

[-] Melody@lemmy.one 5 points 3 days ago

Now that the mandatory reminders of "It's your choice" are out of the way; fwy will tell a bit about how fwy cracked.

Fwy has always been fascinated with various feminine things from a very young age; and that includes things like fashion, makeup, and other ways and forms of creatively expressing fwyself with fwy's very own body.

Of course as you probably know, or have experienced, being AMAB typically means you get pidgeonholed into very specific, very utilitarian clothing and you don't often get a lot of choices on the colors or things of that nature; and it's typically even enforced at a high level that AMAB bodies also do not sport very many types of body accentuation or decorations that are not of a permanent and irreversible nature. No offense to those who do sport very colorful tattoos.

Even when Fwyfwy was just 8 years old; Fwy found immense pleasure in simple decorations of fwy's own body. Given a box of washable markers and privacy; fwy would be very artistic and decorate fwy body, usually fwy feet and legs as those were easiest to sort of color or decorate to emulate something in some manner, to look like whatever fwy felt she most resonated with. Most frequently; fwy would resonate strongly with many female characters and found it strongly maddening that fwy couldn't display fwy's self decoration publicly; but it at least kept fwy sane to know fwy had the decoration on fwy's own body underneath fwyfwy drab clothes.

This is only a fragment of fwy's experience of being trans; but fwy feels it's the best fragment to offer. Fwy does not want to be discouraging when you may just be seeking to feel like you are not alone. Rest assured that you are not alone.

[-] Vibi 9 points 3 days ago

Late 20s to early 30s. It was during lockdowns when I wasn't interacting with irl society much - work was all remote, and all my interactions were online. I quickly realized that when I removed the pressure of having to conform to what I thought was expected of me, I was actually a completely different person. I started interacting with more queer people, especially trans individuals, and realized that there were a lot of parallels with how they felt about gender and all the other constructs of society which never really made sense to me. Honestly, I meant sooo many when I started FFXIV.

The idea that I could decide how I wanted to identify and be perceived by people never really occurred to me.

I had always disliked a lot of aspects about myself and tried to be as much of a ghost as possible. It rarely felt like I was living for me. As I slowly started to explore the things I truly liked - cute things, pink things, and soft things - I noticed my views of life started to brighten. I felt more excited about the things I was surrounding myself with, and I noticed people were interacting with me in a friendlier and warmer way. As I started to shine brighter, people around me started to shine brighter, too!

All that said - why didn’t I just lean into identifying as NB or just fully ignore gender as a whole? I did initially, but about those things which I didn’t like about myself - so many happened to be T driven. Thick body and facial hair- no thank you, thick/rough/acne prone skin- please go, body composition- wasn’t really liking how it fit in the dresses/skirts I wanted to wear, overall mindset and emotions (this changed a lot), etc. Obviously, all these things have taken time and additional effort, but it all feels so fulfilling.

I was initially worried about how people in my life would react/treat me, but I decided to start always putting my own feelings and desires first... no one else was going to. I will acknowledge that it's bit easier for me to do that- my circle is incredibly small, I’ve been single for 5-6 years, I was working remotely, and I kind of rarely leave my home.

My question to people - if you had an irl character creator, how would you design yourself? How would you choose to move in the world if there were no expectations?

[-] LoamImprovement@beehaw.org 8 points 2 days ago

I don't actually know that I am yet, but I've spent the last decade or so sort of dissociating. I never really liked looking in the mirror, I just see a ghost staring back at me, and I think I would like to look less manly, even if that doesn't necessarily mean like a woman. I joined an LGBTQ+ community and started trying some different gender expressions recently. I bought a skirt and some long socks, I started shaving all my body hair, I've thought about different names. Not a lot of it's stuck, but I do like the way my skin feels shaven. I just still feel like a kind of dumpy mid-30s balding white guy though. I don't even think I look particularly bad objectively, but I do know I personally don't like the way I look now. A friend of mine started drawing a mid-30s tech worker bunny boy who turned himself into a long-haired raver with a fat ass after I started talking about it and now I'm trying minoxidil and I'm hoping to get on Finasteride and maybe E soon, I'm hoping it'll give me nicer hips and a butt, and if I happen to grow (bigger) breasts, well, it wouldn't be the end of the world. Maybe I'll like them, and worst case I can always bind or get a mastectomy.

The more I talk about it, the more I realize the things I say are very eggy, but I don't know if that's actually what it is. Like, I just want to have hair again and feel cute and, for lack of a better term, fuckable, instead of constantly comparing myself to the guy with no life from South Park. I guess we'll see where this goes.

[-] introvertcatto 9 points 3 days ago

AMAB person here. When I was kid I loved wearing skirts and do makeup at home alone in room. When I was teen and discovered reddit I looked at crossdreser and femboy subreddit and thought they looked cute and I wanted to look like that. I figured out I want to be referred as woman and also there is this whole beef with my penis I just hate it and wish to have vagina. But also I still love being referred to as man that's why for now at least I use bigender term but it might change as I discover myself more or it might not change. I want to have vagina but not necessarily female body, I would love feminine body but also like my masc body except penis of course.

[-] compostgoblin@slrpnk.net 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It’s funny, I feel somewhat the opposite - I think I might prefer a female body over my current male one, but I don’t have any particular issue with having a dick

[-] OldEggNewTricks 5 points 2 days ago

Two things worth pointing out here that may or may not be relevant:

  • Not all trans women experience bottom dysphoria
  • It's not unusual to start (or stop) feeling dysphoria about things that weren't a problem previously
[-] dandelion 2 points 1 day ago

It’s not unusual to start (or stop) feeling dysphoria about things that weren’t a problem previously

This, I didn't have bottom dysphoria until I started to transition. Then I realized looking back that I had bottom dysphoria all along, lol.

[-] OldEggNewTricks 2 points 22 hours ago

Haha, yes. Listening to my colleagues talking about Cialis and thinking "why on earth would you want more erections?" was possibly a sign.

[-] dandelion 2 points 21 hours ago

haha, same; I will say also that the testes and scrotum created so much more dysphoria than the penis, and the penis causes the most dysphoria when erect (but when it's small and cute it's not a problem). In fact when I realized I was trans, I felt a huge kind of relief about my genitals, it's hard to describe but it felt a bit like I no longer had to feel insecure about my genitals as being male, the standards changed in a way that made me feel really happy, even though they are clearly so far from being "right" by the new standard 😅 It's like the new standard was always the right one.

Also, like OP, body hair bothered me a lot, even before I realized I was trans, I always felt happy I had less hair than most men, but once I transitioned the body hair became much harder to bear. I suspect it's a combination of suddenly applying female standards to my body (which I previously didn't do actively, since I wasn't expected to be female in social situations), and the loss of strong dissociation and denial as coping mechanisms when I transitioned. Anyway, dysphoria for me changed a lot and continues to change. Even as improvements are made, my standards just get higher and I become less tolerant of what remains in the way.

[-] knightly@pawb.social 5 points 2 days ago

I was always a precocious little kitten and figured out I was enby around age 11.

I never could get comfortable with the idea of manhood and when I got around to examining my feelings I realized I wasn't a woman either. A bit of brute-force introspection eliminated all other possibilities and revealed that a mixed gender suited me best, but I grew up in Texas in the 90's so there were no role models and the very idea of what I was seemed like an unachievable fantasy. I kept those feelings to myself for years. It wasn't until 2018 or so that I met another enby and immediately recognized that part of me in them. That cracked my egg for good, and started me on a project of escaping Texas so I could start hormone therapy.

[-] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

I feel like If I had been born as a woman, I would prefer that to having been born male

Imo it's better that you focus on what you are now rather than think about all the random possibilities that never happened. Up to you though, I personally don't like thinking about that as ngl I kinda feel the same way.

I don't experience the sort of revulsion at my genitals that I hear some trans people describe

Nothing wrong with that! Some people do feed bad about it, others don't. I've heard countless times from cis women how they wish they could have a penis because its simpler.
I personally don't feel particularly bad about mine other than when wearing tighter clothes.

this post was submitted on 05 Feb 2025
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