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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this, and happy 4th July in advance.)

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[-] Architeuthis@awful.systems 4 points 5 hours ago

Another OpenAI attempt at monetization has died an ignoble death.

OpenAI is already shutting down ChatGPT Atlas, its browser that could do tasks for you on your behalf, less than a year after launching it. Atlas was announced in October.

[-] schnoopy@awful.systems 5 points 13 hours ago

Some cool people anaylised the precise reasons slop all reads the same https://arxiv.org/pdf/2604.03136

Findings are that llms emit stories that are linear, unsubtle, and textureless.

Also that if you graph it, it looks like a poo.

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

it looks like a poo.

Or, if you are brave enough...

[-] schnoopy@awful.systems 2 points 12 hours ago

don't get it

[-] BioMan@awful.systems 6 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

From the inimitable writers of AI2027, we now have...

AI2040!

https://ai-2040.com/

Typical nonsense. Among other things they are talking 6fold increase in GDP by 2032 in their scenario, MOSTLY driven by neural networks generating text (and one extra currrent GDP driven by robots) and median personal income being 1 million dollars (inflation adjusted) by 2035.

I am particularly amused that they have all the politicking happening in the next presidential administration rather than this year so they can pretend that all their governmental fantasies will happen because someone sane will naturally come to the conclusions they would.

[-] Architeuthis@awful.systems 3 points 6 hours ago

There's a corresponding siskind post also called something something plan A, I skimmed until the part where the US and China take de facto control of chip infrasrtucture and distribution (saying "nationalise" is haram for free market types), basically imagine having to write a letter to the government to formally justify upgrading your computer, and that's all the AI fanfiction I can tolerate without ruining my breakfast.

Also clanker crankers appropriating the term 'Golden Path' from Dune is just distasteful.

[-] scruiser@awful.systems 5 points 12 hours ago

My favorite part was the section where they worked out the logistics of China hiding a data center inside of a mountain.

[-] fullsquare@awful.systems 2 points 4 hours ago

Considering that they think that chatbots are as important as nukes, there is a precedent https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/816_Nuclear_Military_Plant

[-] Architeuthis@awful.systems 4 points 6 hours ago

I like how Yud's rogue data center air raid task force is gradually becoming another weird rationalist accepted truth.

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 4 points 13 hours ago

2040, wasn't that Kurzweils eventual prediction?

[-] cstross@wandering.shop 3 points 4 hours ago

@Soyweiser Last timer I looked (probably around 2001) I seem to recall Kurzweil was saying AGI and brain uploading by 2025. He's basically selling Christian evangelical premillennialism, minus the Baby Jeezus.

[-] lurker@awful.systems 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Oh damn, they originally said it was gonna be called AI 2030, so they pushed it back a bit

It’s not a rehash of AI 2027 with moved-back timelines like I thought it would be, instead its what they believe should happen in regards to AI development

Plan A is our positive vision for what should happen instead. In this scenario, humanity delays the development of superintelligence until 2040, makes all AI research public, allows dozens of companies globally to catch up to the frontier, and intentionally enters a regime of mutually assured compute destruction.

And in the first footnote:

So far reality is tracking closer to AI 2027 than even we expected. (2027 was our modal year at time of publication, not our median.)

According to them, preliminary analysis of the data as of July 2026 says that rate of progress is 75% of AI 2027. This says Daniel K only believes in a 25% chance of AGI by the end of 2027, their model also hasn’t changed so their medians are still shown as beyond 2027. Footnote 11 also flat-out says they have no idea how much things will keep progressing

I’m not gonna be able to go through the whole thing because busy today, but those are my observations based off a quick glance

[-] scruiser@awful.systems 4 points 12 hours ago

So far reality is tracking closer to AI 2027 than even we expected. (2027 was our modal year at time of publication, not our median.)

They aren't even trying to hide the fact that their predictions have already failed but instead claiming victory.

[-] lurker@awful.systems 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Should’ve left in the full footnote:

”The AI 2027 scenario is still roughly what we expect the future to look like: a mad scramble to superintelligence leading to either AI takeover or extreme concentration of power. So far reality is tracking closer to AI 2027 than even we expected. (2027 was our modal year at time of publication, not our median.) You can read more about our views on timelines here and here.”

So yeah you’re bang on the money. Funny how they went on a press tour hyping up Kokotajlo as a forecaster and claiming that dismissing AI 2027 as hype was a “grave mistake” to “yeah we did not expect for it to follow our predictions” and still being slower than what they predicted

[-] lurker@awful.systems 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Piggybacking off myself to say that the way they wrote the update on their 2025 review is weird. I’m assuming that they mean 2025 was 65% pace but 2026 crept up to 75%, but the way they wrote it makes me think that they actually meant to say “we originally thought 2025 was 65%, but new data shows it was actually 75%” which would be odd, I’m still assuming the former since it makes more sense to me (they also drop it with zero elaboration like, what metric increased with this new data since this was an overall % of pace? not to mention the real percentage was 58-66% based off their means and medians so it would actually look like 58-76% pace)

I mean no matter which way you spin it we’re still going slower than AI 2027, so hooray

(turned this into a second comment so they first one wouldn’t be a wall of text)

[-] samvines@awful.systems 5 points 15 hours ago

Enjoyed Andrew Kelley's rebuttal of the bun blog about moving from zig to rust

Some pretty good sneers in there like

Jarred was already writing slop well before he had access to LLMs

[-] Architeuthis@awful.systems 4 points 5 hours ago

The part about tasteless AI enthusiasts needing to be housetrained to not post slop on the forums because that's borderline antisocial was also cool.

[-] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 4 points 1 day ago

Another "AI fucked compsci grads" post has hit my eyeballs - this time, it got recommended to me by LinkedIn's algorithm) (because I'm still on that site for some fucking reason):

Full Textstudy philosophy, not computer science

data from the Federal Reserve Bank of New York shows that philosophy students have a lower unemployment rate (about 5.1%) than computer science students (7%)

why?

unique human judgment, logic, and ethical reasoning are becoming premium assets, and better tech means companies increasingly DON'T need to ask "can we build this?", and increasingly DO need to ask "should we build this, and what are the consequences?"

If there has ever been a time to build those soft, truly human, skills, it is now.

p.s. what do you think is the BEST skill to have right now - my thoughts are in the comments


This one's attributing the decline to "unique human judgment, logic, and ethical reasoning becoming premium assets", and her graph comes from The Economist's Instagram page AFAICT. That one of the Economist's sources is Anthropic is giving me some hope this is bullshit, but its not much.

[-] Architeuthis@awful.systems 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Nothing in my interactions with humanities types indicates they would be in a better position to handle either the educational slopnami or a slopped out job market.

As far as educational systems go, "human judgment, logic, and ethical reasoning" were always left to natural selection instead of being actively pursued. Taking a philosophy course on the history of logic and ethics isn't the same as having any.

[-] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 2 points 17 hours ago

On one hand, Anthropic sourcing suggests that this is probably at least partially nonsense. On the other hand, though, if there's any accuracy at all I'm going to spend the rest of my life infuriated that I went down the technical degree route and actively avoided a liberal arts education in order to improve my career outlook and then this happened.

Like, I don't think they were trying to mislead but I feel like every guidance counselor for kids ought to have a plaque in their office saying "please note that the world is complicated, ever-changing, and scary and I might actually have no idea what the fuck I'm talking about".

[-] istewart@awful.systems 2 points 20 hours ago

Founder @ Egoist Machines, Inc.

Or is that something more quirky, "Eqoist?" Sorry, if you're making it that easy to misread while I'm having my morning caffeine, I'm not going to do you any favors

[-] lurker@awful.systems 8 points 2 days ago

so its Bad bad now

Unfortunately for everybody, it’s managed to outperform even the most cynical doomsday forecasts, to the degree that the US economy is now in even worse shape than it was right before an infamous downturn in the late 1920s. That’s according to the Telegraph‘s economics columnist Russ Mould, who notes that the overvaluation of US stocks has passed the level that brought the stock market to its knees to kick off the Great Depression.

The US Treasury has also admitted that the AI bubble poses systemic risks

get ready for it to get bloody

I want to piggyback off this to talk about the inevitable Uber comparisons, because not only is the mismatch between investment and returns several orders of magnitude greater, but there's also a difference in kind. Uber's model was to undercut the taxi industry and establish a dependence within their niche before increasing revenues. It's the classic enshitttification cycle. But the AI plan, at least as advertised, isn't to undercut a specific industry as much as it is to undercut literally the entire white-collar labor force. There are several problems with this, starting with the fact that the technology isn't actually able to replace the target in the way it would need to. More significantly, however, is that labor doesn't work like taxis. If labor can't get work it shuts down the entire economy because they lose their income and can't actually consume any of the things the market offers. Also labor tends to get mad and break out the pitchforks and molotovs if things get too bad, and "restructuring the economy to no longer provide you the means to sustain your family" seems like the kind of situation that definitionally makes things too bad. In either event the point is that even if this tech is somehow as revolutionary as advertised then there's not really any winning for the company.

[-] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 8 points 2 days ago

What will EA (and, more specifically, Lighthaven) do with all the money they expect to receive once the Anthropic IPO mints a bunch of hundred-millionaires? I'm not granting all of the article's premises, but the interviews with rationalists might be of interest.

[-] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 10 points 2 days ago

The author characterizes EA as being more "businesslike and professional" than LW, then spends the article talking about how their plans all hinge on getting a rich patron.

The image of the beautiful gardens floored with Astroturf is sad.

[-] istewart@awful.systems 11 points 2 days ago

cruise ship, duh

brave new frontiers in mass food poisoning to be explored

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