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[-] BioMan@awful.systems 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Oh man, the "Post ASI" epilogue is a trip. Here's what happens in 2040:

Space beyond the solar system is divided into parcels, increasing in size cubically with distance from Earth. Everyone is given their one-ten-billionth share as a portfolio of lottery tickets, each representing the right to one-ten-billionth chance of getting each parcel. So every human gets a ticket representing a one-ten-billionth chance of owning each star in the Milky Way and each distant galaxy.

Before the lottery is drawn, most people who are interested in control over distant space choose to trade their tickets for space properties that suit their interests.

Many people aren’t interested in the space lottery, so when they receive the tickets, they sell their tickets for money on the open market to people who value control over space. Somewhat uncomfortably, this leads to the wealthy having disproportionate control over cosmic resources. But it is hard to avoid: if people are allowed to trade their control over the stars for Earth assets, then people wealthy in Earth assets inevitably end up disproportionately influential, and proposals for extreme redistribution of Earth assets have already been rejected as politically infeasible.

You can, if you want, go to your space property and live there. If your property is outside the solar system, you will need to either go into cryosleep or upload yourself to a computer to survive the journey. If you hate the idea of cryosleep or uploading, or you want to visit Earth regularly, you should get property in the Solar System. If those don’t bother you, but you’re worried about nearby aliens, get property in the Milky Way or a nearby galaxy. Otherwise, why not claim a distant galaxy for maximal space?

Good god, these people have no idea what the universe is or what they even are, do they?

Also, holy capitalist realism Batman

[-] Architeuthis@awful.systems 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If your property is outside the solar system, you will need to either go into cryosleep or upload yourself to a computer to survive the journey.

Reminder that rationalists have developed a completely mysticalised conception of brain uploading that's very functionally similar with old timey souls, mostly so they don't need to deal with the SOMA problem of every instance of uploaded consciousness being a completely separate self-actualised entity.

Like how exactly is a digital impression of my personality being shipped to alpha centauri to inspect my holdings affect my personal experience? How is it supposed to be interchangeable with using some other made up technology that takes me there in person?

See, it works like this, no one knows what consciousness is, but it's probably a mathematical object, and if your current conscious self is the same as the conscious self that will be inhabiting your body next friday, and also if a supreme being wants to torture you after you are dead....

[-] scruiser@awful.systems 8 points 1 day ago

Also, holy capitalist realism Batman

In between this, their cap-and-trade plan for AI regulation (which is a very market-centered attempt at regulation), their insistent terminology of "citizens dividend" (because even UBI is apparently too left wing for them, much less scary communist words like collective ownership), and some other word choices... it is like they are so capitalists brain rotted that even imagining non-capitalist systems is harder for them than believing in the coming AGI God.

I lost all my space lottery chances and ended up buying a cheap galaxy off of e-bay but when I finally woke up after a billion years of cryo-sleep it turns out that that the AI probe sent to my section of space made a space-treaty with the local aliens so now I have to turn around and fly home but by the time I get back to earth the sun will be halfway on it's way to exploding which is kind of a bummer.

[-] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You can, if you want, design a utopian society to your specifications. Once the Von Neumann probes reach your property, they’ll build it for you. You can set the initial conditions and let them grow, reflect, and flourish on their own

Good news once I got back to earth e-bay still exists and my Nintendo stocks had appreciated enough to buy another distant galaxy! However three billion years of cyro-sleep has warped my personality so now I will rule my galaxy with an iron fist as a space queen. Space law only says:

  1. No torture or slavery
  2. Space property rights

So I shall not rule through torture or slavery, but through fear and only giving my enemies property rights to individual cells on my prison planet!

That said, note that with superintelligent assistance, other people will probably be able to eventually figure out what you did, and judge you for it.

"Oh no I feel so judged" I say as I use my property rights to tell those other losers not to send radio-waves or subspace comms into my galaxy.

(Wait this is supposed to be the good ending?)

[-] o7___o7@awful.systems 8 points 1 day ago

I think this accidentally reinvented mormonism lol

[-] BioMan@awful.systems 2 points 16 hours ago

It is not a coincidence that there is a major overrepresentation of Mormons among the transhumanist singulatarians.

[-] o7___o7@awful.systems 7 points 1 day ago

But redistribution is unrealistic?!

[-] istewart@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago

this is what overpriced housing does to an mf

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