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[-] squirrel 203 points 4 days ago

“AI gives wealth access to skill while denying skill access to wealth.”

[-] Zachariah@lemmy.world 64 points 4 days ago

this is wishful thinking on wealth’s part

[-] kewjo@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

when they have no actual skills outside of gaslighting they end up seeing this as the same they see an expert. they can't validate either way correctness and correctness doesn't really matter to them as long as they make money.

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[-] ell1e@leminal.space 30 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

makes sense. (although I feel like it's more of a husk of almost-skill, given how trash AI is.) damn AI...

[-] uriel238 46 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

A regular reminder that the AI companies are paying for the majority of the cost of compute, selling tokens way on the cheap.

And they have no idea how to get the production cost down.

This bubble is entirely based on (improbable) futures, and / or the current billionaire agenda:
~ Automating everything possible, so that they can leave the replaced workforce to starve
~ Controlling huge swarms of killer robots
~ Processing surveillance data to root out dissidents and crimethink

[-] LePoisson@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

For sure this AI bubble is extra fucky wucky. Like, I wish I had the capital (I'm a proletariat sooo I don't) to burn on shorting some of these companies. Not that I really know how to do it properly and it's volatile and unless you wanna end up owing lots of money you can't cover you have to start with a lot since you're making very hard to foresee bets and some will not pan out.

Like, at some point this bubble will explode, nothing is really propping it up. There's not enough actual demand, the artificial demand there is won't stay forever and even the small amount of real demand isn't going to be there when companies start paying the actual cost for these services instead of it being subsidized. Almost all the money being poured into this "AI" (ie: the fancied up LLMs who's capabilities the tech bros keep on lying about) is going in a circle - it's actually madness.

It's absolutely a house of cards, but betting on a collective realization that's going to implode a big part of our economy is hard because people desperately want to believe the illusion. Sooner or later reality will come knocking and the harsh truth will come to be.

I do think it's going to make 2008 look like a joke but I guess we're going to have to crash the stock market like it's 1929 before our government decides to (once again) reign in Wall Street and this bullshit. It's like we all lost our collective minds or something, as if there wasn't a reason for the glass-steagull act to exist. Hell look at what's happening with our food supply as we've been gutting the FDA and USDA and EPA inspectors and relaxing regulations and constantly looking the other way when these big agri businesses literally shit up our food.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's gonna be bad. when 2008 happened, the houses were still worth something the next year.

no one's gonna buy up all the datacenters openai and anthropic are circle-jerking from nvidia and the tech-lemmings driving the ship at meta, goog, amazon etc.

and there's more than a trillion fucking dollaroos invested already. lol fuuuuuck

[-] gdog05@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

I'm asking everyone, please don't use compute as a noun. That's the language of the wannabe enslavers.

[-] uriel238 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I think that ship has sailed, much the way we use google as a verb for websearch even though Google Search has long lost the honor of being genericized. (I still intentionally use websearch)

LLM generative processing as a service (id est, selling compute) is a failing business model at least for common private use cases. The only way the buildout makes sense is to sell it to governments at gouging prices. And we're in a sorry state when the economy is propped up on government contracts in the service of authoritarian regimes.

It'd be a bit better if compute was being used to facilitate libraries and freight, but instead its surveillance and armies.

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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

Where are all the promised benefits they all said would happen to the common person?

Guess they gave up on that and now it’s “Fuck you, fuck your jobs, sucks to be you, losers!”

[-] Snapz@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

They hate them cuz they ain't them.

[-] zurohki@aussie.zone 74 points 4 days ago

The core promise of AI is "You'll be able to fire all your workers!"

You just aren't the target audience for the message.

[-] 3abas@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago

It's a stupid promise.

Some jobs will be eliminated by AI, new technology wipes out jobs all the time. We needed people to manually connect wires to connect phone calls, and we automated that away.

I'm excited that the tedious technical parts of animation are getting automated, this gives the artists more time to work on the art. We use computer generated graphics all the time, we use digital production workflows, we don't manually paint frames anymore, unless we explicitly choose to for stylistic reasons.

If the animation isn't just right, the artist can tweak it. The art isn't lost because the artist used a modern tool. It's the soulless garbage used by money hungry gouls that will be entirely generated from a couple text prompts, and the result will show it.

There's a huge difference between implementing a new tool into your workflows to cut down animation hours and days to minutes, and delegating the whole artistic production process to the tool.

[-] GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

As an animator? If I can automate some of the extremely tedious in-betweening for things like ruffles on elaborately over-designed magical girl costumes, or background fire, that would be great. But let me breathe life and soul into these characters with my own two hands.

[-] joelfromaus@aussie.zone 1 points 2 days ago

Best I can do is mass layoff’s to be replaced by soulless machines.

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[-] TheLastOfHisName@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

These fucks get put up against the wall alongside their techbro oligarch heroes when the time comes.

[-] whereitsat@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

maybe they don't fully understand the role that artists play in rendering your daily life.

do you feel unease and sadness every single time you pass a fast food restaurant that looks the same as the others? i sure do.

the people who designed the new ones are artists but they work for satan and have no morals. they may as well be AI.

do you ever watch commercials on your streaming box and become quickly annoyed but then take in a commerical from the 80s and vibe to it? maybe not, but if you did, you'd notice the juicy fruity jingle was catchy as fuck and the aesthetics of the commercial were alluring. the modern ones? not so much. artists create all that.

the person in the tweet is too dim to notice these things. maybe they'll never notice it. maybe they do notice it and they don't care because they're disgusting examples of humanity....and embodiments of biblical evil.

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 66 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I think this is just another side of the temporarily embarrassed-millionaire, anti-worker, techno-fascist-narcissist, pseudo-libertarian, culture-war propaganda that capitalism has been waging since the 1970's.

All indoctrinated chudds show the exact same distain for all workers, in all scenarios... unless it personally affects them... at which point it's the worst thing in the world. Half of them are so brainwashed they continue bootlicking the oligarchs that fire them; that are directly destroying their lives, families, and communities.

[-] pdxfed@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

It's some poor slob with $15k on Nvidia stock praying they get rich without any skill for their shilling.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago

That's the whole point of the stock market. To make us feel like equals, like we can join their team.

[-] redditStinksSuperBad@lemmy.world 34 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I'm a 25yr software engineer. I use the latest claude everyday. It's garbage, slings slop 95% of the time, and requires non stop correction in nearly everything it does.

[-] fake@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 days ago

I genuinely don’t know how vibe coders manage to get anything to actually work.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 points 3 days ago

I suspect the ones who are, were already programmers.

I've had some success taking our main windows app and converting it to a server with a Flutter front end.

Mostly stuff that I already knew how to do but couldn't be arsed because it's a lot of work to keep it all in sync. Break it down into actual tasks and Santa Claude stands half a chance. I've never written a line of Dart.

I'm also absolutely certain there's a limit to how far this approach will get me. The old the first half of the work takes 90% of the time. The second half also takes 90% of the time.

[-] LePoisson@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I wouldn't call myself a vibe coder (or a coder at all I'm pretty rusty and wasn't killer to start) but I've used some Gemini and copilot to help with some VBA scripting. You just gotta walk it in and keep on iterating and telling it what was messed up and give it the error.

It usually will get close or even right eventually but also I ended up just bring up some official documentation to sort some things out because the LLM believed its own bullshit so hard I couldn't get it to stop hallucinating syntax even when I told it over and over it was wrong.

Which is hard to tell at first glance when it looks right but it is just slightly off or maybe it's trying to use a non existent "built in" function. I definitely learned some valuable lessons about AI in those small exercises though.

I would say that like anything else it's a tool, and honestly LLM for writing some boilerplate code or getting something down that's close (or even pseudo code) is useful. Would never ever trust it on its own and it may not even speed up your workflow but it can be helpful if you're unsure what to do or how to approach something.

What you can never do is trust the output from the start. You can never just hand your brain off to the machine because it doesn't actually know anything. I do wonder if the "efficiency" gain is even actually happening or if that's mostly just a collective delusion fueled by the corpo overlords. At any rate anyone doing actual vibe coding isn't going to get shit done because the code simply won't work or will break in fun unexpected and unknown ways.

[-] replicat@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Just stop wasting time/money on Claude. If you already know what you're doing, use a super cheap model like DeepSeek Flash with thinking off to generate the code you want.

There is absolutely no reason (IMO) that a skilled SWE should ever need a model like Opus.

[-] GardenGeek@europe.pub 13 points 4 days ago

*correction by someone qualified to actually know shit about the matter.

This is where things will get interesting in the near future.

[-] jtrek@startrek.website 48 points 4 days ago

Resentment and weak egos, I assume.

"I'm a great person" -> "I can't draw good" -> "they can draw good" -> "am I not so great??" -> "unacceptable!!!" -> "they suck!"

[-] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

And reason left the room years ago:

  • what is the possibility of me being capable of greatness in all things and aspects at the same time?
  • very close to zero, if possible for human at all
  • oh well

But that never occurs to them

[-] rozodru@piefed.world 32 points 4 days ago

it's always funny reading posts by "AI advocates" like this because none of them actually work for any AI companies. they're just linkedin fanboys of it. wannabe middle managers.

The irony, of course, being that middle management is a category of job much better suited to being replaced by AI than actual creative productivity is

[-] fake@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

They’re in for a rude awakening when the price gets jacked up to the point none of them can afford it.

[-] nullspace@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago

Chuds love AI because they think every artist is a blue-haired liberal. The thought of those liberals losing their jobs brings great joy to the chud.

Chuds vote time and again against their own interests. They do so to "own the libs," personal consequences be damned. As long as a liberal is perceived as hurt, the chud will support AI.

[-] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 21 points 4 days ago

There was a leopardsatemyface town where the touring politician made fun of poor people because they couldn't buy food and the poor conservative town LAUGHED at themselves and then lost a hospital and supermarket.

[-] veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

Truly the broken cycle meme

[-] lath@lemmy.world 45 points 4 days ago

Jealousy and envy in full display. They wish they had that kind of talent.

[-] red_tomato@lemmy.world 36 points 4 days ago

Some people can’t cope with that other people have talents

[-] LemmyPlaceDN@europe.pub 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Talent = affinity + trained skill + effort

Usually.

[-] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 6 points 4 days ago

They believe they're better than everyone else because they're wealthy. But if someone can do things they can't, that ego doesn't like it much. Removing that uncomfortable feeling in a high priority for the rich.

[-] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 days ago

And the most annoying part is, even Nvidia isn't even saying it'll do that.
All of the AI based character animation stuff has been about getting characters to move realistically in dynamic cases that your artists couldn't and weren't even trying to account for.

People have been using machine learning for this for a long time. It's a great advancement, but the ability to make a character crab walk over a bridge doesn't help you know what they should be doing, what it looks like, that it's conveying things correctly, or the actual hard parts of character animation.

[-] karashta@sopuli.xyz 14 points 4 days ago

So much envy for our creativity. Do the work like the rest of us. I started getting trained at age 5 in creativity. I honed that training through more and more use during my life. I didn't just wake up one morning seeing outside and around the box.

They think it's just 100% born in us when that's only a portion.

[-] brianary@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

It's the ultimate separation of the art from the artist!

[-] outerspace@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

It's only on Twitter, where people are getting paid for the most outrageous posts, the more the better

[-] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

"Here is this very extreme post that was shown to me by the algorithm that machine learned that outrage is best to increase engagement and sell ads and increase profit, AND IT CLEARLY SHOWS HOW ALL THESE APOSTATES ARE EVIL AND NEED TO BE CRUCIFIED!"

Also that post in spanish might have been meant as a honest warning, or jokingly, or sarcastic, or just as a statement of fact.

I've worked with animation artists before. Character animation is a PITA. And they will welcome a tool that you could just describe the visual gag you want to animate instead of animating keyframe by keyframe. Instead of "animators" they will become "motion choreographers" using AI tools to be more productive and more free in their creative expression. You'll still need their skills because if you're not a character animator you lack the language and words and imagination to describe what you're trying to achieve.

And AI animation will allow you to have dynamic animations in game that react to the player. Something that isn't even possible to hand animate.

[-] StealthLizardDrop@piefed.social 7 points 4 days ago

I mean i am envious of people who have skill and tallent to draw/create pretty things and i really wish I had tallent to do the same. All i can make are things that look like wonky stickpeople and turds. But thats why i would prefer to pay professionals if i was in the business of relying on created art.

[-] Zachariah@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

Do you do commissions? I’d like an original, signed wonky stickpeople and turds for my office.

[-] Goldmage263@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 days ago

You'll need to print it yourself.

[-] Zachariah@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

This could be in the Louvre some day.

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