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[-] verstra@programming.dev 160 points 3 weeks ago

We could really use a covid-style lockdown for a few years.

[-] mrmisses@lemmy.world 93 points 3 weeks ago

But this time no cure until we wipe out all the anti mask/ anti vaccine idiots first

[-] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 85 points 3 weeks ago

And "AI" idiots who insist on burning entire areas just to generate shrimp Jesus memes

[-] lemmyng@lemmy.world 41 points 3 weeks ago

And the fascist oligarchs. Maybe lock em in submarines and drown the lot of em.

[-] MrLLM@ani.social 22 points 3 weeks ago

We don’t need a covid-style lockdown to do that. Just saying.

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[-] FishFace@piefed.social 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Ai data centres used about 0.5% of global electricity production last year. Electricity production is about 26,000 TWh annually, versus total energy production of 185 TWh annually, so AI was about 0.07% of all energy consumption. Energy production causes the bulk of greenhouse emissions: 73.2%, putting AI on 0.05% (this is unfair to AI, because electricity is cleaner than the average energy production which includes just burning gas for heat).

In comparison, trying to find something small on https://ourworldindata.org/ghg-emissions-by-sector my favourite comparison is that energy for making paper consumes more than 10x as much as does AI.

A large TV might consume about 100W while on, so 100Wh to watch for an hour. To reach the same consumption with AI, you'd need to run about 55 expensive (the upper estimate I found was 6700J - I assume this means long coding answers, research or image generation) chatgpt queries.

Personally I think it unlikely that someone would reach that 1 prompt per minute at that expensive estimate, so ask yourself: is AI really "burning entire areas" compared to just watching TV?

It has its problems but this is a moral panic.

If you're downvoting, leave me a comment to say why.

[-] guywithadeathwish@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago

It all well and good comparing data centre energy usage with global production. But you miss out the important reality that a good chunk of the data centres running today and in the near future are using fossil fuel power on-site, without a grid connection, which is so much worse.

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[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 142 points 3 weeks ago

I expect climate change to be consistently worse than the mainstream predictions.

There's a huge political incentive to err on the side of downplaying than to exaggerate, and those models should have been bad enough to make the point.

[-] cynar@lemmy.world 47 points 3 weeks ago

About a decade ago a group did a study on it.

They first created a simplified model. That model was still a fairly good match with the fully featured models. They then varied the parameters around reasonable possible values. If scientists were using most likely assumptions, you would expect a 50/50 split of better/worse predictions.

In practice it was 93% worse. Scientists were (unconsciously) using a lot of best case figures, not expected case.

When I read about that, and the complete lack of follow-up coverage, I knew we were fucked.

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 28 points 3 weeks ago

Which I don't blame the original scientists or studies for. Their predictions were bad enough that we should have done something then. It's been clear for at least 30 years.

They did what they thought would have the most traction and not get them dismissed as crackpots. And, to be clear, they were still within a margin of error. They weren't generally wrong, considering their margins. It's just that they're not going to be perfect and they made the better choice.

Even now it would be easier to dismiss climate change if the reality ended up better than predicted, even if it was still bad.

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[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 84 points 3 weeks ago

I am convinced all the climate change predictions were WAY too generous and reality is gonna be far worse.

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[-] Doug@piefed.social 71 points 3 weeks ago

This is one of the reasons my spouse and I opted to not have kids. This place is doomed.

[-] Malyca@lemmy.zip 25 points 3 weeks ago

Dude I feel so incredibly guilty for bringing my kids into this horror. You're doing the right thing.

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[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

Given that overpopulation likely contributes to climate change, you're also doing your part for those who do have to live through this hellscape!

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[-] shittydwarf@piefed.ca 66 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 58 points 3 weeks ago

Chat we're not just cooked we are battered and deep fried.

[-] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

”salivates in southern US”

[-] Klear@piefed.world 37 points 3 weeks ago

You shouldn't needlessly salivate. That water is needed for datacentres.

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[-] DontTreadOnBigfoot@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

Slow cooked until our meat falls off the bone...

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[-] sirico@feddit.uk 61 points 3 weeks ago

Doesn't matter what your intentions are.

Doesn't matter what earnings you posted this quarter.

Doesn't matter if you believe in climate change.

Doesn't matter if you need this truck.

You're on this rock of wind and water and it'll do what it needs, to get back to it's equilibrium. That might be at a level we don't exist anymore nature is emotionless and you can't control it.

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[-] Zacryon@feddit.org 47 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah just don't fall into the old mistake of weather = climate. Heat waves happened before climate change as well. But our current changing climate makes them more likely to happen more often and more intense, if I am informed correctly.

[-] Tabula_stercore@lemmy.world 39 points 3 weeks ago

It's not high summer, and 40C is crazy. This is climate chang. Saying it's weather is oil propaganda.

[-] Zorque@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago

Its not one or the other, that's overly simplistic. Using this one data point to "prove" climate change is about as honest as someone bringing a snowball into congress to prove it's fake.

You need both to prove a sustainable point, otherwise it's forgotten with the next cold snap. This is one extreme data point, and it helps to showcase the problem, but it is not the only one. Use it as part of a whole, not as a singular showcase.

Thats my interpretation of OPs comment.

[-] VoteNixon2016 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Idk when record-breaking high temperatures are showing up weekly I think they stop being "extreme" data points

Outliers aren't outliers anymore when all the measurements are in that range

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[-] stormdelay@sh.itjust.works 19 points 3 weeks ago

Look up how many heatwaves happened in France during the 20th century, and how many happened in the last 10 years. Yes, weather on any single day is not climate, but we are quite past "oh heatwaves happened before".

[-] VAK@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Not just heat waves, average has also increased - https://showyourstripes.info/s/europe/france/all

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[-] scrotumnipples@lemmy.world 41 points 3 weeks ago

Nobody cares anymore now that datacenters and AI exist.

[-] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago

Corporations have never cared, it’s always deflection and distraction.

Example: the myth of recycling

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[-] Comrade_Squid@lemmy.ml 39 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

We're sitting in our rooms agitated, causing life long issue with sleepless nights, all while these fuckers that did this for greed sake are building climate controlled bunkers.

Fuck rich removed

see you next Tuesday is sencered? What else can we call them...

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[-] Cattail@lemmy.world 37 points 3 weeks ago

Oh good we are ahead of schedule

[-] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 36 points 3 weeks ago

There's been a 73% decline in global vertebrate populations since 1970. We're in the beginning of a very serious mass extinction and it's kinda like we don't care which is interesting.

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[-] arararagi@ani.social 33 points 3 weeks ago

That's 43 celsius? Holy shit, good luck to the french, it will soon be everyone.

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[-] manxu@piefed.social 33 points 3 weeks ago

As a Person Living In France, I can confirm it feels like someone put an oven in every room. Even places with A/C mostly can't keep up with the heat. The only safe space is the car with working A/C.

We are rapidly reaching temperatures where life becomes impossible, and we'll need to be indoors from May to October. And we are just getting started.

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[-] wayward@sopuli.xyz 32 points 3 weeks ago

Truly wild.

I'm in the northern us and traveled to Austin, TX for work recently.

I departed at 72 degrees and raining and landed in 98 degrees with a 78 dew point. It was a heat index of 116.

I understand exactly why the world is burning, watching all the people scurry from AC to AC in a state which derives most of it's power from fossil juice. And then of course, everyone is driving a monster vehicle and coal rolling pedestrians and e scooter renters.

We're so fucked.

[-] knomie@feddit.org 19 points 3 weeks ago

This is not supposed to be personal, but an additional point is how it is completely natural to us as a society to fly somewhere. Even if it's for work.

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[-] jack_of_sandwich@lemmy.sdf.org 31 points 3 weeks ago

And people continue to deny that global warming is real...

[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 34 points 3 weeks ago

No, that was plan A.

Plan A: tell people there's no climate change

Plan B: tell people climate change is natural, not man made

Plan C: tell people climate change is man made but there's nothing we can do about it

We're at plan C now.

[-] Ttangko@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

systemically made, not man made

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[-] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 3 weeks ago

A lot will admit it’s real but then shift blame to China while overlooking the facts that chinas pollution is largely made by western countries outsourcing the dirtiest parts of their supply chain to China and that China is vastly outperforming and outspending literally every country in considerably bringing down their emissions

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[-] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 18 points 3 weeks ago

Some have stopped denying the warming. But they've moved on to "humans can't cause enough pollution to affect the entire earth" and "It's god's will to bring the end times" fml

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[-] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago
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[-] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago

You can argue with scientists all that you want to, they're not infallible, it's true.

But you were warned for many decades, don't act all shocked and surprised.

[-] thecommonistagenda@lemmy.zip 24 points 3 weeks ago

This depresses me so badly. I don’t think we can fully grasp right now just how bad the next few decades are going to get

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[-] GodofLies@lemmy.ca 23 points 3 weeks ago

Climate change deniers: "I'll be dead by 2050, why do I care?" or "Fuck you, I got mine already."

Reality: FAFO.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago

I've accepted that we won't survive the coming storm. Covid showed us that people couldn't be bothered tonwear a mask or get a shot to fight off a disease that was visibly killing millions. If we can't come together on that, there's no way we'll come together to survive the climate crisis.

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[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago
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[-] someone@lemmy.today 19 points 3 weeks ago

You know what would help this situation?

AI

Lots and lots of AI.

Also more religion.

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