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[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago

Christianity is in a pretty sad state when you're absolutely shocked to see a Christian behaving like an actual Christian.

[-] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

My first thought was: "Boy, are christians gonna be pissed when they see this christian acting like a christian."

Edit: No. Bad autocorrect, bad! That stays lowercase until they behave.

[-] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 124 points 4 days ago

fred rogers would be proud of ms rachel. nobody carries on his legacy more than her <3

[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 29 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

That got me super curious, and I found this about the Mr. Rogers and Ms. Rachel connection.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago

That explains so much but also idk why it felt like a revalation. She's an American my age, a ton of us did, especially the ones of us who share his values.

I'm glad kids have an influencer like her. Mr Rogers did a lot of good for my early moral development.

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[-] davidagain@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

“Hurtful videos and comments, no matter how much attention they get, will not bring you want you want. Only love can do that.”

Well said, very well said.

[-] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

Ms Rachel doesn't miss

[-] saltnotsugar@lemmy.world 75 points 4 days ago

A Christian following Christian teachings!?

[-] eestileib 47 points 4 days ago

No no, she's clear that this is because of Jesus, not Christian teachings.

Which makes sense, cause Christian teachings are typically what Paul says, not Jesus.

[-] stiffyGlitch@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

then why do people keep saying "Simon says"????

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[-] chillpanzee@lemmy.ml 31 points 4 days ago

It's a lovely sentiment, and I appreciate what she's doing, but religion is entirely about exclusion.

[-] stiffyGlitch@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

exactly. I left my church because the priest said that my tattoo of a fucking BUTTERFLY was "inappropriate and unCristian." also because they were racist to my Korean friend, said I couldn't be pansexual, and tried to teach me to "submit to your faith and get a husband as Jesus intended."

[-] n0respect@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

TIL every Taoist is about exclusion

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[-] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 42 points 4 days ago

How DARE she Utter such UnChristlike Nonsense like TREAT PEOPLE WITH RESPECT and STOP MURDERING CHILDREN! She's HORRIBLE!

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 11 points 3 days ago

Oh look, a Christian who actually read their magic book.

[-] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 10 points 3 days ago
[-] tankfox@midwest.social 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Jesus was an excellent dude with an excellent idea; if you're going to be aware forever then the time you spend here on earth is going to be a microscopic fraction of the time that the you that is you exists. Deciding that you're above others because of money or race becomes a permanent soul injury after passing on and discovering that souls come in one single value, color and race.

For example; camel in the eye of the needle parable guy would have difficulty in passing on to the next world not because he was rich, but because being rich defined who he was as a person. The parable attempted to explain that the person who needed to be above others as a core component of their identity would be endlessly miserable when put in a situation where they could never be placed above others again.

[-] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago

You shouldn't need the promise of afterlife to learn how to get along with people.

[-] tankfox@midwest.social 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think you have it backwards; the concept is that everyone gets an afterlife, and your attitude decides what that afterlife is going to be. "You shouldn't need the threat of tooth decay to brush your teeth!" is also true in the same kind of way, but brushing isn't a test you pass to get the completely unrelated gift of good teeth, it's the process of maintaining good teeth to get to a goal of still having them later.

It's not 'Grrr be good or I will punish you' like Santa Claus, it's 'heaven is that way and here's the map, follow it if you want to get there, or don't'

[-] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 1 points 17 hours ago

You shouldn't need the threat of tooth decay to brush your teeth!

That's not even true as an isolated statement. Tooth decay is the only reason to brush your teeth. If my teeth never decayed, why would I brush them?

I honestly don't understand the point you're trying to make. You can't just assume there is an afterlife. And if there isn't, then you shouldn't just start being a greedy asshole regardless.

[-] tankfox@midwest.social 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Tooth decay is the only reason to brush your teeth.

Imagine a kid who doesn't want to brush. If they don't brush their teeth those teeth are still there in the morning, so why would they 'believe' in tooth decay?

If my teeth never decayed, why would I brush them?

That's the kid, a 12 year old who's teeth are fine, even when he doesn't brush. He can test that by skipping brushing every day. The consequences won't catch up until their early twenties.

The only immediate reason to get into the habit of tooth brushing is because they're told to do so, and if the lesson sticks then they don't have to experience the consequence of tooth decay as they grow older. The decay isn't a punishment dealt out as judgement for not following an arbitrary rule.

shouldn’t just start being a greedy asshole regardless.

Based on what? Greedy assholes have a great time! You certainly can't simply assume that everyone has a moral core that aligns with your own and have that match reality.

Naturally good-hearted people don't need compassion explained to them, if only everyone was like that, right? The suggestion 'learn to get along with people while you're alive or you never will' is certainly true whether there's an afterlife or not, but if there is then it's even more compassionate to try to give greedy assholes a framework and a reason to try something else.

[-] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 1 points 15 hours ago

Imagine a kid who doesn't want to brush. If they don't brush their teeth those teeth are still there in the morning, so why would they 'believe' in tooth decay?

Even a kid will eventually get cavities if they don't brush, and cavities hurt. Children also learn from their parents about tooth decay. Again, how is this relevant? Are you saying all people are children that can't tell right from wrong without being told?

Based on what? Greedy assholes have a great time! You certainly can't simply assume that everyone has a moral core that aligns with your own.

Sure, but once again, what does this have to do with the Bible and the afterlife? I'm agnostic and I derive my morals by studying the philosophy of ethics. And a big part of ethics is firstly understanding science so you can separate fact from fiction. If you don't know what is true, how can you know what is moral?

[-] Fleur_@aussie.zone 2 points 3 days ago

Jesus is present for like, less than a third of the Bible.

[-] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 40 points 4 days ago

Man, she must really love getting death threats from right-wingers. /s

[-] Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago

It's so funny cause I don't really know much about her other than she makes children's content and Republicans can't stand her. But literally every single time I hear why Republicans are pissed at her it's just because she said something like "let's try and not be assholes to each other" or something lol

[-] prole 10 points 4 days ago

All she did was talk about Palestinian children who were being murdered and marred by Israel and how it's bad. That's literally it.

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago

I think there's a certain element of open defiance at this point. Every bit the "Keep booing losers, you know I'm right"

[-] prole 9 points 4 days ago

Your boos mean nothing, I've seen what makes your cheer

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[-] Ilixtze@lemmy.ml 25 points 4 days ago

Ms Rachel; you are already on your way to be antisemite of the year; You don't want to be Christian persecutor of the year as well.

[-] zeezee@slrpnk.net 26 points 4 days ago

just to note - as part of their nomination StopAntiSemetism said:

Miss Rachel, no stranger to controversy, had previously dabbled in politics but, after facing backlash, quickly refocused on her brand and catering to children

what's the political controversy that caused backlash you ask? she made a video celebrating pride month... that's it..

and now this article shows she isn't just doing it to score brownie points but is actually what the genocide defenders fear most - an actually good person.

really makes me disgusted how Isntreal claims to be a safe haven for lgbtq+ people yet use us as both a weapon and a shield whenever convenient..

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 6 points 3 days ago

safe haven for LGBTQIA+ people unless you move there. my mom, back before she understood Israel to be what it truly is, was going to move there with her girlfriend. the military recruiter bringing her girlfriend over got in her ear about how the Jewish race is dying off and a lesbian couple won't make any new little perfectly Jewish children, so she broke up with my mom.

their position on LGBTQIA+ issues is purely virtue signaling. it's propaganda for fundraising. the point of a thing is what it does and Israel hurts, not helps, our rights (our here meaning queer, Jewish, and queer Jewish).

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[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 days ago

I’ve always found it ridiculous that a cult would be so hellbent on making its numbers smaller

[-] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 days ago

Cults grow specifically because there's an out-group they exclude, so that by joining the cult, you can feel superior to the out-group. It's an incredibly effective tactic that's been working basically since the dawn of organized religion.

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Religion is another form of tribalism.

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[-] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago

Although I appreciate her and her sentiment, this changes nothing that the big Ambrahamic religions stand fundamentally opposed to the existence of LGBTQ+ people. To a point of justifying genocide against them.

The only realistic solution to ensure the equality and safety of LGBTQ+ people (and more) is the elimination of organized religion.

Religion is a cancer, and needs to be eradicated through education that specifically analyzes it and destroys it with logic and reasoning.

[-] Zorque@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It seems the only ones fundamentally opposed to their very existence are the ones who see in only black and white terms. That either you're good or you're bad. This is mostly evangelists who gain power by tricking people into believing the opposite of deep-seated religious tradition.

This is a problem of con-men abusing established infrastructure, not necessarily organized religion itself. Getting rid of the religion does not get rid of the con-men, just forces them to make a new one (Scientology/Mormon anyone?) or use a different strategy.

Perhaps try and see things in a less black and white way and you might find an actual solution instead of a boogie man you can point to and say "They're causing all our problems! We should burn them at the stake!"

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

the big Ambrahamic religions stand fundamentally opposed to the existence of LGBTQ+ people

Setting aside the navel gazing "um actually if you translate the Greek properly..." nerd theology, the big religions only seem to care when reactionary secular leaders care.

Hostility to homosexuality isn't a product of religion, it's a product of socio-economic in-groups and out-groups. Same with misogyny, ethnic bigotry, and xenophobia. You'll find all the same reactionary tendencies among secular atheists as sectarian dogmatics. And the same progressive attitudes, as well.

Religion is downstream of politics. Always has been

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[-] eestileib 17 points 4 days ago

A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.

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