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Is that a promise, Nige? (c.l3n.co)
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Perhaps you could bugger off back to your gentlemen's club now and never darken the doorstep of a boozer again.

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[-] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago

You know you are doing the morally correct thing if this guy is against it.

[-] dumbass@leminal.space 34 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

U.k pubs see record income after smoking ban, one publican we interviewed said "It's not as much the smoking ban, its the fact that people know that fuckwit Nigel isnt going to be there".

[-] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 21 points 1 month ago

So pubs will become a safe space? Nice one.

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 7 points 1 month ago

Safer

[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 1 month ago

Sorry UK smokers, I think you're gonna have to take one for the team on this one.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 17 points 1 month ago

We all know they'll stand two millimeters from the gate to the pub gardens so will ask have to walk through their cancerous cloud of shit anyway.

Put in a smoking hut somewhere.

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 6 points 1 month ago

Apparently pubs already have the ability to define outdoor smoking areas, so if there is an issue, you can have a word with the landlord about it.

At my local, my friends who smoke and vape usually go up the car park a bit and there's rarely an issue with fighting through a fog to get to the doors. If there was, I am confident the landlord (self-declared as "dickhead intolerant") would have a word with the worst offenders, possibly even dedicate the closest picnic tables to thr doors as no smoking.

[-] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 month ago

Seeing him smoking actually makes quitting smoking way more appealing to me. Thanks Nigel!

[-] llamatron@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

I wonder how much time he's spent in Clacton since the election.

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 9 points 1 month ago

Probably about as much time as he's spent in the Houses of Parliament.

[-] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 month ago

If they banned smoking and allowed vaping I honestly think it would be a great improvement

[-] riodoro1@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Vaping is not a solution to smoking. Especially with the amount of virtually or literally single use vapes. Your healthier alternative still generates a shit ton of pretty bad trash so please choose the healthiest option and just cure your whatever addiction.

[-] lurch@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago

it's because of the disposables. refillable vapes don't cause those problems, but of course quitting would be even better. it's really hard to quit though. i smoked 9 years. even after quitting, it took a few years until i stopped missing the effect. a horrible drug.

[-] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago

I never said it was a solution. I don't smoke, but I get that a lot of people who go to these places do and I'd personally be fine with them allowing a transitional period where vaping is allowed.

[-] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 9 points 1 month ago

Nah, I've been subject to clouds of peoples' vape exhalations; no thanks to that. Ban it all if you're going to ban it until something has zero output aside from what's already in peoples' breath in similar concentrations.

[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 11 points 1 month ago

I don’t know who this guy is but like

If I can’t smoke outside of the pub then I probably won’t go to the pub either.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 23 points 1 month ago

I wouldn't be terribly upset if the smokers stopped smoking or stopped showing up. It's bad for everyone involved, and the defensiveness of smokers is insufferable.

[-] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 12 points 1 month ago

Smoker hate is just another form of classism. Smoking could have been eradicated decades ago, but instead, they allowed these companies to continue to peddle death to the disenfranchised while placing all the blame (and tax burden) on the users. Now, governments and private entities continually restrict the spaces that people can smoke while still allowing the sale on every street corner. This is just another case of class warfare, poison the poor and blame them for the situation.

[-] grozzle@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago

or maybe people just hate it because it fucking stinks.

[-] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

Then why is the hate directed at the addicts and not the companies who produce the product or the governments who allow these companies to flourish?

[-] grozzle@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago

strawman argument.

tobacco companies and governments are widely hated.

[-] DrCake@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

You know banning smoking would never work. Just look at how ubiquitous weed and cocaine use is. Also if smoking only affected the person smoking then it would be fine, but second hand smoke is a health issue and it just fucking stinks.

[-] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Smoking can be reduced without banning smoking. Unfortunately, mitigation methods like vaping are treated the same as smoking, because fuck poor people trying to quit. Additionally, massively taxing the producers would put them out of business, and there would be less of a black market because there really isn't a "high" from nicotine and the crop isn't really practible on the small scale.

[-] Soup@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

I still don’t want to have to deal with people smoking in pretty much any area where smoking is banned. It’s smells fucking awful and we know full-well the second-hand dangers. Other than allowing the sale of the things I seriously do not get the appeal of it.

So yea, while I agree with the spirit of your last sentence it’s ultimately a fully voluntary and objectively stupid thing to do so I don’t have a tonne if sympathy, if I’m honest.

[-] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago

Most adult smokers in the West start as children in poverty. By the time you are looking down at another adult with disdain, they have been addicted for quite some time to a readily available carcinogen. This is a societal level issue that has been dumped on the poor/developing countries. Some countries, such as New Zealand, are making good progress by doing things like raising the smoking age incrementally.

[-] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

I started smoking when I was 13 because it was the only way one could take their shift break without being interrupted/called back into work. Before I smoked, my breaks would constantly get interrupted and I'd be called to do work but after I started smoking? No one dared to break the sacred rule of "don't fuck with someone's smoke break".

20+ years later and I'm still smoking 😎 and hopelessly addicted. I hate it.

[-] towerful@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago

I was a bit older, but that's the same reason I started. Somehow an accepted break that doesn't get rushed, and a bit of daylight.

[-] Soup@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Yea see that’s where I get on board with the classism issue. Everyone is overworked and for some reason smokers get breaks that nonsmokers don’t but should.

[-] cynar@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Smoking was banned in public buildings because 1 smoker could negatively affect a lot of people. If you want to poison yourself, that's your choice.

There's just 2 provisos,

  1. I should be able to avoid being affected by it.

  2. Any costs it created (e.g. medical costs) should be rolled into its tax.

[-] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

I'm not advocating for indoor smoking. I'm pointing out the trend of smokers being pushed out of outdoor spaces, which will have the effect of actually creating greater conflict with nonsmokers.

[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 1 points 1 month ago

I seriously don’t get the smoker hate. But I live in Canada, maybe that’s more of a UK thing.

It’s not really an issue here. You can’t smoke inside bars like anywhere here, but you go outside and smoke and it’s fine. Not on patios or anywhere they serve food but usually you just go smoke outside the bar. If you don’t want to be around the smoke you just don’t hang out where the smokers are smoking, and like… why would you anyway?

If you can’t even smoke outside then like… where do you go if you smoke? Can you just go across the street or is it like a street wide ban?

[-] JohnSmith@feddit.uk 8 points 1 month ago

UK’s version of Geert Wilders, but probably a fair bit smellier for all the fags and ales he consumes.

[-] Wooki@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If the states of your criminal settlement down under can achieve this, by god its got to be a slap in teh face that the UK cant do it.

I honestly dont remember what it was like before it was banned and by golly its fantastic.

[-] bhamlin@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

No. Stop. Don't. 😐

[-] shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

Damn, a two for one, really hope this ban goes through.

[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

is there any law that will make sure I don't see his face in my feed ever again?

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 8 points 1 month ago

There's a feature request in for a Farage Filter, we'll keep everyone updated on progress.

[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

ahh that already makes my brain pink and happy

[-] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

Everyone is for freedom until someone they don't like wants it too.

People on the smoker hate train are just as bad as those who want to ban gender realignment, books about gay people or drag queen story time.

"But it's different I just want ban stuff I don't like!'

[-] lostinfog@reddthat.com 9 points 1 month ago

Let me poison myself and everyone around me in peace!!!

[-] Crikeste@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

Congratulations on writing one of the dumbest things I’ve ever read.

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

I can confirm I want to ban getting cancer because I don't like it.

[-] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"second hand smoke isn't a thing " is a wild take in 2024 but here you are.

[-] RandomVideos@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

Is it restricting freedom when even people who smoke hate smoking in public?

Also, books and gender realignment dont hurt anyone. You cant say the same about smoking in public

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