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Planned Action for LGBTQ+ & Allies in Response to Democrats Capitulating on Trans Rights
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this post was submitted on 30 Nov 2024
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So the plan is to boycott the Democrats because of all the terrible things the Republicans are doing, and keep boycotting the Democrats until they succeed in stopping the Republicans from dismantling trans rights?
Protests are how you try to push the party to do what you want. If the only thing you do is vote then the only thing they need to work for is the bare minimum to get your vote. As you imply, democrats are the best for LGBTQ+ people, so they don't really get a voice when voting. In order to be heard you need to do more than just vote.
I don't know how common your idea of voting being the only form of civic involvement is, but it's horribly misguided. You hold your nose a vote for the best option, but you hold them accountable and try to get your goals furthered outside of voting. This is how it's always been. Please, do not tell people to stop asking for more again.
Your idea of not voting being the only form of civic involvement is breathtakingly counter productive. The more the right wingers win, the more the Democrats move right to win back what passes for centrists in the USA's horribly twisted version of democracy.
I said that people should vote. Damn dude. You can't even build a strawman properly.
Your idea of not voting for the Democrats being the only form of civic involvement in democratic policy is breathtakingly counter productive. The more the right wingers win, the more the Democrats move right to win back what passes for centrists in the USA’s horribly twisted version of democracy.
I said people should vote for democrats! Man, you really suck at this. Are you just trolling or are you really this fucking stupid?
You honestly sounded to me like you were advocating for withholding your vote and my one and only point was that that is counter productive. If you don't disagree with that point, I feel you could have made it far, far clearer.
So no, I'm not trolling, and I don't think I'm stupid, but I did fully believe that you were disagreeing with my point about witholding votes achieving the opposite of what I believe are our shared goals. So now I think you were just unclear and unnecessarily combative.
There's nothing in anything I said about voting being the only useful thing we can do, that was all in your head.
I said we should protest. Voting is a minimal action and isn't that effective, especially if the party knows you're already essentially obligated to vote for them.
This was in response to your comment essentially implying the protests that this post is about shouldn't happen and democrats should have unconditional support. If you agree the protests are good then I guess we both could have communicated better.
The plan is to only boycott them if they ignore the campaign to pressure them to continue supporting LGBTQ+ rights.
The planned action is first to demand Democrats hold the line and continue supporting LGBTQ+ rights, and to threaten withholding votes if they don't comply.
From the article:
Just wanted to say I get that; I'm not fond of the Democrats but I tend to vote for them as a lesser-evil situation (not that it matters, I live in a place where my vote is irrelevant). I am not a single-issue voter, I think there is a role for LGBTQ+ voters even if both parties are against us (after all this was how all elections were until very recently), but I would participate in an organized campaign to show Dems that they need us, including refusing to vote for them if it came to that. Still, we need to realize that alliance-forming is necessary for survival and good outcomes, and that means finding ways of working with non-ideal people and holding your nose and voting for the lesser evil sometimes.
Voting definitely made sense and continues to make sense if Democrats will make a stand for something.
Right now we have a party that did not stand up for Democracy. Article 14 of the Constitution section 3. They are not fighters but they need to be if they ever wish to have any relevance again.
If Dems dump LGBT, you are asking people who have had forced sex changes, forced divorces and are likely to be dead or homeless if not political prisoners to make sure they vote for the party that will not take a stand for them or Democracy itself.
It is likely that this doesn't matter as Trump is back after an attempted coup in which he denied election results for 4 years and now has the legal authority given to him by the Supreme Court to do anything including assassinations with absolute criminal immunity.
Not to mention he has all branches of government and got rid of Republicans like Pence and Cheney who respected democracy. Vance was chosen because he will not certify votes on a future Jan 6th.
They have also bought out legacy media and social media networks, and are banning books and bringing politics and religion into schools to raise a new generation that will vote for them anyways.
I can't currently imagine a situation where MAGA didn't do election fraud or deny any future loses. After all they won this election denying the previous election. This is something that happens globally. Just look at the recent stolen elections in Venezuela.
https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/amendment-14/section-3/
https://youtu.be/Tv2jDkm9Esg
https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/06/venezuela-election-maduro-analysis
It's more or less something like this.
sounds like business as usual to me.