My kids do. They were younger than 4 years old when I explained it to them and they didn't have any trouble understanding. Kind of makes me wonder why so many adults have so much trouble.
Little young for geometry, but you do you I guess
Quadratics are child abuse!!
My seven year old explained it to me the other day. Snapped at him half paying attention, thinking he was calling something gay disparagingly. Asked what that word meant to him and he said "when two of the same gender people love each other. Like two boys or two girls." "How do you know that??" "Ms. --social worker at school name-- told me about it" "Oh.. well. Great. Carry on then. Oh! Wait! You know you can love whoever you love right? And Daddy will always love you?" "Yeah of course, can you be quiet so I can watch my show please"
This morning I noticed a black trans lives matter sign on a hallway wall and felt really proud of our school. Fwiw it's one of the lowest income and most diverse schools in our affluent city, debunking "Poors and POC are inherently bigots" bullshit from the academic left.
The academic left? Friend, your kid is well adjusted. More so than you (which is the goal, so good on you)
The academic left doesn't exist. I don't even know what that means, but it's not a real group. It sounds like it came from fox "news"
You're trying. Your kid has been raised to not see the issues we (myself included) get tangled up on. We have to get past the bigotry subtly hammered into us growing up... If you're not pushing our baggage onto the next generation, you're doing great as far as social issues go
No leftist wants anything except for you to be paid more fairly and for your kid's school to be better funded. Doubly so if we're educated enough to recognize systematic issues.
You're on the right side of history... But whatever news programs you've been watching, please stop. They're owned by billionaires actively trying to sow division for their own benefit
academic left doesn't exist
The surveys in this Wikipedia article claim otherwise.
Some of those studies are suspect (e.g. most target social sciences, instead of a survey over all disciplines), but there does seem to be evidence that academics tend to lean left. For teachers at K-12 schools, this article cites a study about political bias, which found a smaller but still left leaning gap in political affiliation of teachers.
But the real question is whether that matters.
I grew up in a progressive state with largely progressive teachers and conservative parents. I considered myself conservative for many years (well into college, which was a private, conservative university), until several years after finishing school and I realized I really just wanted smaller, accountable government. Neither major party actually pushed for that, though both pushed for some aspect of what I wanted (Dems pushed for social policies like same sex marriage and legal marijuana, Reps pushed for lower taxes and spending caps).
Did my teachers influence my political views? Absolutely! But they didn't turn me into a progressive, they just gave me an alternative perspective from what I got at home. My most influential teacher was in 4th grade, who pushed hard for recycling and reuse (we has a class compost bin, mild consequences for improper waste disposal, etc). I'm no tree hugger, but I'm really careful about reducing waste. My parents cared about waste a lot too, but my teacher gave the perspective I needed to understand why it was so important (we had a guest speaker talk about aquifers, ground water poisoning, etc, among other things). We rarely talked about politics, but things adjacent to politics certainly did come up.
So I don't particularly care what my kids teachers' political views are, I just expect them to teach facts and help students draw their own conclusions. I personally consider myself a left leaning libertarian (in favor of a solid social safety net, loose social policies, balanced budgets, and low taxes), and that's a mix of my formal education and home life, as well as other interactions with interesting people.
Conservatives make the left-leaning academics thing into a big issue, but it's really not. The real issue is that teachers are underpaid, so we're not attracting a diverse enough set of teachers. My dad wanted to be a teacher (got a teaching degree and taught for a year), but the income wasn't enough so he went back and got a degree in engineering. That's a pretty serious problem, and it's especially bad in my (very conservative) area since most teachers are women who have husbands who have better paying jobs, which implies that teaching isn't a viable career for many. We're limiting our pool to people who are okay with a crappy salary.
That said, it's disingenuous to say that there's no political bias in schools. The studies indicate otherwise. However, it's a mostly unimportant detail.
It's probably due to the inherent liberal bias of reality, if anything.
More so than me? You've got me really open to hearing you out the gate with the ad hominen. Cool. You missed the part where I'm the one raising him to be this person. But kids are no reflection on those who raise them I suppose.
"The academic left" are out of touch progressives that speak like everything is academic and about philosophical principle, while alienating the actual minority groups they claim to speak for. (E G. I got on board with LatinX and every single Latino/Hispanic friend "outside the movement" fucking hates it.)
You don't know me. You don't know that I've alienated myself and lost friendships over participating in being the elitist sociology major in the office.
You don't know I've been an activist for almost 30 years. In real life. With a bullhorn in my real hand. Talking to real people. Not on the Internet. Save the lecture for someone who needs it please. This is the problem with self proclaimed leftists. You always fuck with your comrades and push them away, while bitching that average Dems should be spending time persuading Trumpers to switch sides instead of working together on practical solutions to stopping fascism and solidifying democracy so we can actually work on things like universal healthcare, minimum living wage, ending citizens united, repairing the supreme court, reminding cops they're the 99% and breaking up the gestapo, stopping mortgage derivatives from coming back worse than '09, regulation off big business, anti trust, codifying Roe etc etc etc etc bc Genocide Joe.
Edit: actually, you suck. I tried to hold back that and put down my anger over that first comment. But I just reread my original upvoted by the community comment.. and you suck. I'm out here talking about supporting trans kids of color and teaching it to five year olds in public school, and debunking stereotypes about bigotry and bias in minority communities. You picked me of all people on this site to lecture with that shit? I'm sorry man, you kinda suck. A lot.
Your comment veered right off a cliff with the last sentence there. Where did you get that jumble of words?
Geometry is a gateway drug to Topology and its lesser known brethren, Bottomology
But have you heard of Versology?
When they say that kids don't understand gay people, what they mean is "kids don't understand why gays are bad and disgusting".
It is too late mother I have seen everything, I now identify as non-Euclidean.
I would love to see this in the “jimmy noooo” comic format
I had gay couples explained to me as a kid over twenty years ago and understood it no problem.
Geometry on the other hand, I still struggle with...
Maybe you just never approached it from the right angle. I bet if you tried a new approach the subject matter wouldn't be quite as obtuse
That's acute way of putting it
Sometimes it helps to look at it from a different angle :)
E: oof I just realized Nova already made this pun lmao
what if the shapes were kissing on tv?
"If your child gets turned gay by watching a lil Nas x video just show them the WAP video to turn them straight again. Y'know cause that's how it supposedly works"
I know I butchered the quote but the point is still there
Help they're bisexual now
Straight people - "That means you're gay"
Gay people - "That means you're straight"
Horny people - "That means you like sex"
They really should stop being so obtuse.
Thats a cute pun.
When I was little, I got to know some of my mother's gay friends.
she just said smth like "they are a couple", and i got it. It's not difficult to teach the existence of gay couples. Unless you teach that couples are specifically man and woman.
I have gay family, and I didn’t need that explained to me. Even growing up in a very christian household, and being in a church that was conservative for most of my time there. I have never seen anyone argue this in good faith, and I don’t think it’s possible to argue this in good faith.
Maybe they wouldn't have trouble understanding it if they weren't constantly told all their life that men need to love women and women need to love men 🤣
What makes it confusing is when it contradicts everything they've been taught their whole life. Don't fill their heads with that shit and they will handle it perfectly fine.
They taught me how to find the area of a trapezoid and I've been broken ever since. Maybe sucking dick will fix me.
If you have a hard time understanding gay couples, then you must be overthinking straight couples.
Unless your gonna talk about babies there is no difference and if they can understand babies, then they sure as heck understand gay couples.
They're both a sin.
Acutely witty.
I understood my (much older) brother's best friend and his boyfriend were gay when I was 6 years old. It took about 10 seconds for my parents to explain the concept.
I never figured out geometry beyond Pi*r^2.
This only gets funnier if you imagine kids figuring out that Trig and Geometry are from Ancient Greece of all places.
Whats so hard in saying: "some boys love other boys instead of girls"
Kill your shitty children, then you won’t have to explain anything to them.
I thought from the headline this was going to be a sovereign citizen post.
Can confirm it is harder… I don't know why people (not homosexuals just certain people) love eachother but I do know trigonometry.
that's because trig is easy. finding and keeping love is harder.
As a kid, my mom explained that sometimes two men or two women fall in love too, the same as if it were a man and a woman, and that's all I needed to understand.
Holy shit. I get it now.
My kid is gay. It doesn’t bother me…mostly. Like, I’m 100% fine with it on a social level. I never criticize her, I support her, but when I think about not having biological grandchildren something on a primitive level cries out in me. Her mother is dead, she had one child. As an animal, on a very basic level, she wasn’t successful in reproduction if her genes stop with her only child.
If we’re looking at it beyond just what we can see, people are terrified that their children won’t reproduce. I could be wrong, I’m just an idiot.
As humans we have to contend with our intellect and our nature. A lot of us have very little of one and a whole lot of the other.
I personally feel like I have to be above my fear. My fear is primitive. Humanity is fine if none of my genes ever travel on down the line. My daughter is perfect like she is.
Whether or not a child decides to have children of their own will never be something a parent gets to "fear" or control, straight or gay. All 8 billion humans are conscious enough to realize that individuals aren't responsible for perpetuating the species, and that one specific person's genes aren't any ideal that needs to live on.
I'm glad you support your daughter's chance at happiness rather than her reproduction quality!
Oh no, I agree with you.
That’s the whole point about being above my own fears.
I know it isn’t my decision.
My fear is something I can’t control. How I react to that fear is a whole other story.
I feel like that’s the whole solution across the board. Teaching people that their nature will lead them to fear things irrationally. Their intellect is the answer.
That's true. Teaching as many people as possible to live rationally and compassionately will go a lot further than ensuring your own bloodline survives.
Yep. That’s what I was saying.
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