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[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yes, authoritarians view other people as their property to control.

[-] StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago

It's just enrichment! They couldn't manage in the wild theyve been in captivity too long

[-] Deme@sopuli.xyz 151 points 4 days ago

This has nothing to say about anarchism itself. It just assumes that coercive authority would be required for industrial medicine production and large scale agriculture. Anarchism does not mean a lack of organization, just a lack of coercion and unjust hierarchy.

[-] carotte 94 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

i mean, i have seen many naive anarchists who think "everyone has a garden" and "hi, my favourite hobby is making paracetamol in my garage!" are substitutes for organized agriculture and medical manufacturing…

mostly on social media. but then again, this is a social media post too.

[-] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 44 points 4 days ago

The vast majority of capitalists believe in the possibility of an ever expanding market on a planet with finite resources.

There have been communist who believed you should plant seeds really close together because they would have plant class solidarity and not compete with each other.

There are anarchists who think chaos is a legitimate form of government.

There are fascist.

It's almost like naive and insane people exist within all political ideologies to different degrees.

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[-] Deme@sopuli.xyz 50 points 4 days ago

I don't deny that there's plenty of naive anarchists around. But it's a false conclusion that anarchism itself would be naive because of that.

[-] jaschop@awful.systems 41 points 4 days ago

You can be an anarchist and poke fun at naive interpretations of anarchism. I don't think you have to read "all anarchists are like these hypothetical human pets" into that joke.

[-] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 26 points 4 days ago

You don't have to, but that is absolutely the correct interpretation when 'anarchists' is further qualified only by, 'pet', which only implies ownership. That's even worse than calling anarchism naive. That's implying anarchists are so dumb as to be considered pets.

[-] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 23 points 4 days ago

To be fair, I do have a harem of pet anarchists

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[-] Broadfern@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago

Workers own the means of production” is, in fact, anarchist but I can understand freshly-minted anarchists get turned off the idea at first by tankies lol

[-] Deme@sopuli.xyz 36 points 4 days ago

Tankies think that the state should own the means of production. Sure, they'll then claim that the workers own the state, but in reality it's just owned by the political elite.

[-] Broadfern@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago

Bingo. If your hands aren’t operating the equipment on the daily, you shouldn’t get to (co)own it. Statism bleeding into work life is effectively diet capitalism.

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[-] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 4 days ago

Absolutely, but it's still pretty funny.

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[-] festnt@sh.itjust.works 40 points 4 days ago

i like how these comments are 1/3 normal comments, 1/3 people who have no idea what anarchy is, and 1/3 people who really care about how it works

[-] vantablack 31 points 3 days ago

more people need to focus the petplay angle here

[-] als 13 points 3 days ago

Was literally sent this by one of my anarchist pets

[-] Squirrelanna 5 points 3 days ago

Even anarchists can desire a guiding hand. Even better when said hand gives headpats!

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[-] kaklerbitmap@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I was about halfway through this before I realized they were talking about anarchists and not arachnids

[-] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

I put a mirror in the pen of my libertarian cuz I saw online they'll do funny stuff in front of it but now they're just yelling at it saying stuff like "you're not a REAL libertarian" and "that's not what the non-agression principle is" and I don't know how to make them stop :[

[-] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago

There’s a big difference between American and European species of Libertarian.

Whilst I could never breed American Libertarians I’d struggle to put one down - it’s just a geographic defect after all.

[-] Daxter101 84 points 4 days ago

Not gonna lie, this feels disingenuous.

It's just political bait disguised as a "meme".

It doesn't even contain any good discourse about anarchism, just tired tropes of infantilisation.

Eh, why even post this?

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

yeah this post is like, really fucking mean and i think OP maybe isn't able to see past the pet-play aspect?

Like i'm fine with pet-play, but the rest of the meme is kinda.. abusive? It's like continuing to treat someone like a baby in public.

[-] jaschop@awful.systems 48 points 4 days ago

Disagree, I think there's something there.

Something about baby anarchists who get the spiritual lessons but stubbornly refuse to engage with the complexity of the world and try to naively derive practices straight from theory which end up laughably ineffective. In contrast, once it truly sinks in how fucked and complicated the world is and how powerless your faction is your political practice starts looking more "normal" ™️, but you harbor no ill will against the enthusiastic baby anarchists and sort of envy their lifestyle.

Might be wrong, can't read OPs mind. But somehow it doesn't feel mean-spirited.

[-] Deme@sopuli.xyz 38 points 4 days ago

It's using a strawman of anarchism which essentially equates it with anarcho primitivism. Those are two different things for a reason.

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[-] derAbsender@piefed.social 23 points 4 days ago

Because anti leftist Propaganda doesnt make itself, you know?

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[-] magic_smoke 69 points 4 days ago

I don't want garden sized what fields I want huge community ones tended by machines made out of ganked parts running open source MCU firmware.

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago

i want that one image of a highway turned into a linear farm, with a machine on rails that automatically plants and harvests stuff.

[-] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 15 points 4 days ago

I've really had enough of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, was hoping we could abandon it after the revolution.

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[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 20 points 4 days ago

If you find yourself getting real worked up about tankies or anarchists, then respectfully, go touch some fucking grass. There's real comrades (of a variety of tendencies) out there, fighting against actual (and ascendent) fascism. Your ideological grudges are so fuckin stupid and irrelevant at this point in history. Seriously. Not. Worth. A. Fucking. Mention. Work together when you can, wish them luck when you can't.

[-] falcunculus@jlai.lu 18 points 3 days ago

I used to say this stuff about needing to come together and all. Then I worked with people who called themselves "comrades" until it became obvious I'd been used by awful people who wanted power and who saw hurting others as an unfortunate necessity or even a perk of the job. Then I started paying attention.

It's not a matter of historical grudges, it's a question of who we're propping into power. Arguably less important than avoiding fascism but still very much worth some discusssion.

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[-] greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 3 days ago

The thing that makes anarchism work is people wanting to participate in it. As a guy who likes anarchism I just want to care more about strength of character than money or power.

[-] canthangmightstain@lemmy.today 6 points 3 days ago

So do libertarians, they just don’t have enough trust to see it in others without some sort of unimpeachable token system to recognize as “proof” of their character.

[-] Smorty 24 points 4 days ago

oh. OH!!!!!

cooing noises!!!!! im gonna remember that one. oooh im gonna remember that one.

i looked it up, what it meant, what it means when an adult says they are doing it. WOW. yes. yes this - this umm...

THIS is it.

thank you for sharing.

[-] AccoSpoot1@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago
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