all states are authoritarian

Not in the same ways. You support dictatorships where workers have no power, nor the means to eventually hold power later down the line. I support neither capitalist regimes nor dictatorships pretending to be socialist.

To get rid of the state, all property needs to be collectivized, which both gets rid of class and the state itself.

Yes.

There’s no “promising to abolish” anything, the state gradually withers away with respect to class withering away as property is sublimated and collectivized.

No marxist can describe how this will happen. The dictators in charge do not have incentives to give away their power, nor are there other mechanisms in place that can bring about socialism. It's literally just propaganda. Inequality in china is not withering away, there's just a growing middle class the same way we had a growing middle class in other places where industrialization happened. The state owning and running things does not equate to socialism. It could, if there was democracy of some kind rather than oligarchy supplemented with very minor political participation from a fraction of the population.

I am a Marxist, yes. I became one after engaging with history, theory, logic, and practice. The fact that poor logic and false history doesn’t sway me doesn’t diminish my points. I haven’t seen any ethical arguments being brought up here.

Your auth states commit all the evils of capitalist empires and yet you still defend them. That's not exactly ethical. Authoritarianism can't be ethical in practice because of the incentives the people in power have to keep their power, and the things they do to keep it. "Communist" states are far more authoritarian than most liberal democracies, which is why I call them authoritarian. I call you authoritarian because you defend them and wish to implement similar oligarchies/dictatorships elsewhere. This is not to say I like liberalism, just by comparison your system is in many ways worse. Unions are way more suppressed, people are less active politically, and there are no big benefits to make up for it. Genocide is still happening, billionaires are still being produced, freedom of speech is still suppressed, etc. Like yeah we can sit here and compare metrics and see both capitalist and marxist states are doing good and bad in all sorts of different ways. Both systems work to a point. I don't care. I want actual democracy. I want actual freedom. I want actual socialism, or at least a system which can produce socialism unlike your auth vanguard states.

I will be blocking you after this.

Edit: To me the big mystery is why defend these states? Why aim for vanguard states? Can't we aim for something better rather than something that has "succeeded"? Why do we have to choose between liberalism and marxism when we can instead try to work towards actual socialism?

The revolution comes, comrade :3

I will not be an enemy of existing socialism or of the working class of those countries.

You already are, auth

"Is she... you know... into making her own clothes?"

To anyone reading this please don't do this. By cheating by memorizing you ruin everything for those of us who spent minutes writing the answers on the label of our drinking flask and making it look like the ingredients.

then why is "I" capitalized ?

checkmate commies

Locking. This meme complains about misogyny, with people immediately jumping in to imply misogyny isn't real and start complaining about irrelevant stuff to the meme in an inflammatory manner. Please behave in the future.

The last time we had a post like this it was filled with a bunch of sealioning from tankies (authoritarian socialists). Be aware that we will be banning any such behavior.

Linux can absolutely replace windows for the average user.

"Why are you trying to do [x]? Have you tried doing [y] instead?"