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submitted 6 days ago by kivihiili to c/mtf

circa half a day ago indigo made a post about their own voice, and that prompted us to open the voice analysis software and see what ours is like. so we just recorded a brief little sample and the pitch analysis showed 223 hz. we then went "huh, that seems a little more than we'd expect" and... turns out it was right.

so we tried talking while trying to put in as little effort as possible. and wouldn't you know it, it did not change at all, in fact it went up to 231 hz.

so we tried to make our voice lower. not really going for a masc voice but only lower, just because we were curious. and uh 182 hz, and still sounding so much like a girl!

so we tried to go for the most masc voice we could, like an announcer at a nascar race. and... 143 hz and still sounding androgynous.

(typical average pitch ranges)

there is not much consensus on this, but here is one regimen for spoken english:

  • "female": 155 hz and up
  • "androgynous": 135 hz to 165 hz
  • "male": below 145 hz

(the software we use is praat)

our point is that like we can barely do a masculine voice and even then can hardly sustain it.

don't be mistaken, we really love being able to just sound like a girl! but the loss of that ability has felt a little... frightening? not sure of the best way to put it. maybe its the realization that we are going to have to fully commit to female presenting, no matter what happens?

hope that regardless of what does happen we'll manage to find some way through it.

take care <3

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[-] TotallynotJessica 9 points 4 days ago

A month after I started using my fem voice full time, I tried to boymode while traveling. I found that I simply couldn't use a masculine voice in front of people anymore, and that despite wearing masculine clothing and not shaving for a week (I have little facial hair), I was still repeatedly gendered female. I've basically given up ever trying to do a masc voice now.

[-] TheGingerNut 8 points 4 days ago

"Heat from fire, fire from heat" is like a spell to feminize your voice. I've found "I don't like them putting chemicals in the water to turn the freaking frogs gay" works in the opposite direction. Try it if you're scared.

[-] Robyn 15 points 5 days ago

That’s cool! I have a friend in a similar position, she insists that she can still boy mode, despite her “boy mode” voice sounding like when a voice actress dubs a barely pubescent boy. At her previous workplace her coworkers got a kick out of every stranger correctly assuming she was a girl and “correcting” them. Tho hearing her story made me feel a lot less anxious about my boy mode, like I don’t need to hide as much.

[-] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 4 points 5 days ago

At her previous workplace her coworkers got a kick out of every stranger correctly assuming she was a girl and “correcting” them.

What the fuck?? Is there something I am missing or is this as insanely transphobic as it sounds?

[-] Robyn 12 points 5 days ago

My wording is a bit confusing, sorry about that.

Her coworkers thought she was a man because she insisted she wasn’t trans when she started working there, she still had M on her ID, so she thought it would be easier to boy mode. They thought she was a femboy while strangers just saw her as is.

[-] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 5 points 5 days ago

Ahh that's way less bad haha thanks for clarifying!

[-] AllukaTheCutie7725 2 points 4 days ago

Yeah I feel that. If I try to do a masc voice now I just sound like a girl trying to make herself sound masc. Doesn't really bother me that much though. I don't have any desire to ever sound like a boy ever again.

[-] AzuraTheSpellkissed 15 points 6 days ago

Wow, really? From the few transfems that I know IRL, I didn't think such a change is possible. Thank you for sharing 💜

I've read about some being happy to have such a large range of voices after voice training, mainly for theatrical purposes. But I can see how with lack of training, one can get unused to their old voice...

For comparison, when did you start voice training / adjusting your voice? It's sometimes hard to judge your own voice, but did you consider it androgynous before?

[-] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 12 points 6 days ago

Yeah, it's a training/use thing. When I was training my voice back in the day, I could still do my old voice, but I had to consciously stop and think about it and try to remember how to do it.

[-] kivihiili 5 points 5 days ago

oh we probably started about a year and some change ago. we did not implement any real change in our daily habits until a while later, i.e. a few months ago. kinda did it subconsciously when meowing at randoms over proximity chat in video games lol

we very much did sound masculine prior. not like super deep manly (we are more young and testosterone was nowhere close to running its full course) but certainly like a guy, we definitely didn't pass. thank you for asking, we so appreciate it!!

[-] birdwing 6 points 6 days ago

I've a naturally large range of voices so it's easier on the pitch for me, but resonance is still difficult. That said, I've been working on it!

Voice training can do a lot!

[-] Shirow@lemmy.zip 10 points 5 days ago

I've notice I can't sing with a voice as deep as before. And doing my old voice is starting to be harder.

I haven't found my feminine voice yet. But my voice changed in a more androgynous way. (No by itself though through conscient effort).

[-] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 8 points 5 days ago

I am at the same place currently :)

Still deciding, where I want to go with it. I love both Abigail Thorne and Jamie Clayton's voices so I might aim for something in that direction <3

[-] lwhjp@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 5 days ago

As you've discovered if your resonance is good you can speak at a low pitch and still sound like a woman :)

Worst case you'll need to train for a bit if you want your male voice back in the future. But I think it's a good thing! Presumably you're going to want to go femme full-time at some point, and you don't want to accidentally make a clocky noise if you're startled or not concentrating.

[-] erin@quokk.au 7 points 5 days ago

https://voca.ro/1mTwhN8Tq4b8

here is my i really idk what to say but here is some "i dont know what to say" in russian

checking voice on english is a little bit cheat because they sound diffrently

[-] erin@quokk.au 6 points 5 days ago

im never voice trained, should im train is?

[-] Kayday@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

If you have voice dysphoria, yes.

[-] erin@quokk.au 6 points 5 days ago

idk doesnt, but the voice pass or not?

[-] Kayday@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

There are some qualities that will probably be perceived as more masculine, but it sounds good!
I'm hearing what some people call brassiness or buzziness, which can be targeted in voice training with a quotient slide exercise.
If you'd like to go a step further and work on vocal fry in general, the gee-heh exercise can help with that.

[-] erin@quokk.au 4 points 5 days ago
[-] kivihiili 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

you sound more like a girl than not!! :D

the english part, most english speakers would focus more on the accent, but it sounds definitely not like a guy, still maybe androgynous? certainly feminine leaning a little. but that wouldn't be what they focus on. the russian part does sounds rather femme though!!

what we would say (at least for english) is to try to make a higher pitch towards the end of the sentence, like asking a question but not quite reaching there. here is an example of our voice in english: https://voca.ro/11bM00n99Z0n (a lower pitch ending first, higher pitch second)

text and text source

By the late Roman Republic, Old Latin had evolved into standardised Classical Latin.

(first sentence of second paragraph of this wikipedia page)

that aside though if we saw and talked to you in public we would mostly think "very cute pretty girl" hehe

[-] erin@quokk.au 4 points 5 days ago
[-] kivihiili 2 points 4 days ago

we needed that this morning TYSMMM <33 ljakshfdlkjasdhf

[-] erin@quokk.au 4 points 5 days ago

wao tyyy

especcially cool than im never voice trained, voice just didnt broke

this post was submitted on 20 Apr 2026
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