"I resisted calling it fascism until it was too late and people were dying at the hands of monsters."
Get fucked. It was fascism when it was George Floyd and it's fascism now. It's been a fascism white people were willing to ignore because it didn't impact them directly for fucking decades, if not a hundred years or more.
Great job joining us in reality.
[Fascism] has been overused to the point of meaninglessness, especially by left-leaning types who call you a fascist if you oppose abortion or affirmative action.
Yeah, this guy can fuck right off.
Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds.
Maybe he's been in opposition of using the term because he's fucking fascist-lite himself. Fascist with half the calories.
Calling liberals fascists is literally overusing the term to the point of meaninglessness.
Fascists are real and they're here, and they hate liberals and liberals hate them too. Calling liberals fascists is not going to help the situation.
And if you're going around making liberals bleed because you disagree with them, then you might wanna look in a mirror because you might be a fascist.
Do they hate fascists? They seem to be quite accommodating what with the slow rolling of justice for any infractions and the weakest of resistance to funding any 'security' concerns.
But no, calling them fascist wont help.
I’d like to take this opportunity to express the profoundly tragic failure of Democrats to mount any kind of meaningful opposition to this fascist project, that has been underway since at least the Reagan administration.
Also the fact that Donny got off for January 6th still blows my fucking mind.
That's because they're fine with fascism too. This isn't a fight between parties. It's a fight between the rich owner class and everyone else.
They just voted to fund ICE. Again.
They're not failing at anything. A significant amount of them are just quietly complicit.
I’m glad you got there eventually. Keep listening closely to the people who told you this years ago, they are clearly more perceptive than you.
It was literally fucking YEARS of me dealing with variations of "he's not a fascist! He's just an impotent wannabe dictator, we'll be fine. You're overreacting!" from acquaintances and family. Not friends, I don't have friends that stupid.
I will stand arm in arm with every person who mocked me for "being a worrier", not just because it's the only way out of this, but because it's the best way, maybe the only way, to build a better future.
With that having been said, I hope each and every one of them gets a terrible case of genital lice at some point in their lives.
Oh well now that YOU say it, king of the obvious, now we are allowed.
You know, Start by saying you’re fucking sorry for being an idiot. Because that’s what you’re actually reporting.
How can I upvote this comment more than once?
I am so upset by articles like this, but the saddest part is that they're needed. Months ago a professor who studies fascism fled the country due to rising fascism. There were articles about it. I sent them to family and friends in an attempt to warn them about what was coming. Some did listen, but there are so many people we will have to pick up along the way and "meet where they're at". I wish all articles like this were "I'm a huge idiot and was horribly wrong and will devote myself to fixing this now", but in reality that helps no one. I can keep sending out articles like this and since it's not "wow! I and by extension you were a dumb idiot" people may feel like maybe realizing it now is smart and can have their minds changed. I would appreciate a better note at the end, once the reader may be swayed, that was about what to do going forward and how to learn to listen, but it is what it is.
So the United States, once the world’s exemplary liberal democracy, is now a hybrid state combining a fascist leader and a liberal Constitution; but no, it has not fallen to fascism. And it will not.
Well that’s alright then. I almost thought the Atlantic was becoming less useless for a second there
"I declare it"
Fucking ridiculous. "Hitler is a Nazi, but Germany isnt Nazi!"
If they keep plugging their ears it can't be true!
I wonder which of the 3000 things over the past decade changed their minds.
3000 things? Using the short list? 😆
Yeah, printer ran out of ink, so we could only get the top 3k; HP promised new ink is in the mail.
Yes, we know.
See, everyone knows that fascism is a bad thing. That has been taught in every school since the end of WW2.
It's just a shame that most people never bothered to look up what fascism actually is, and it can be something your guys do as well.
Our general discourse has been so deeply and deliberately poisoned that people don't pay attention to words broadly anymore. So many different foreign and domestic forces have worked so tirelessly to amplify the chaos and boost the worst takes on both sides of every social issue, that the general population of the US stopped paying attention. (The horrific 2024 exit-polling confirms this too.)
This is why people are latching onto character over policy, it's why Trump retains power despite not having any clue what he's doing and is just obviously being led around by his cabinet. It's why we all seem to care a lot more about what our favorite internet streamer has to say about a candidate than AP our Routers or the evening news, because the words have been said so much that people stopped paying attention.
This is not a new, modern ploy either. The KGB and CIA both have written how to destabilize nations using these tactics as far back as the 50's or earlier.
I feel like this debate over whether it's fascism or not misses a big point:
It's an oppressive nationalist state with practically unchecked presidential power. It is responsible for numerous war crimes. It instates hardline policies targeting everyday Americans. It puts people in detention camps. It is fueled by exceptionalism on all levels, from foreign policy to religion. And at the same time, it doesn't provide for its people, cutting all forms of social support.
It also erodes democratic institutions in an attempt to cement itself, so that other powers couldn't change course.
You can call it fascism. You can call it authoritarianism. What matters is that America is turned into an angry shithole hostile to both others and it's own people. Isn't that a reason good enough to stand strongly against it? Why do people wait for a "fascist" label, like it's some sort of red cloth, and would it change much if tomorrow Trump would plead allegiance to Hitler?
Fascism is a big word with a lot of weight to it.
The more you get into politics and the more you debate with people across the aisle, the more you realize you have to be careful what words you use, so as not to lose credibility.
That being said.......this is fascism. Period.
It's happening. It's happening now. It's happening here. It's not debatable anymore.
Well, the US has arguably always been fascist. Essentially fascism is copratist control of the economy and a merger of corporations and state. Of course corporations as entities have evolved after the US's conception, but we've never been a democracy of the people, with only wealthy white business owners calling the shots.
We stole the land with genocide and apartheid, then built it on the backs of slaves. The house the president lives in was even built by slaves. When we "abolished" slavery, we had to make sure that we had a way out through incarceration. Guess which nation incarcerates more citizens than any other nation?
Not only that, but the US was a major inspiration for both Hitler and Mousolini.
And not to mention how we are constantly starting wars and instability around the world for our oligarch's own benefit. And that out biggest enterprise is weaponry and war technology.
The US is and has always been a fascist nation.
“Oh gee wiz, turns out he’s doing the dictator thing like he said he would”
So you literally ignored hitlers plot playing out until it was to late, and now it’s okay to call them hurtful name. Another banger from the Atlantic.
Well, welcome to the party, I guess.
Even if, as I put it in my other reply to a similarly limp dicked Atlantic article, you're so late to the party that the caterers that were hired for it were deported by ICE months ago.
The Atlantic is trash. Lib bullshit late to the party and faking it. These are the same people who enable fascism. Not to mention the zios...
I'm reminded of that smarmy dickhead that wrote "Liberal Fascism" that was about mansplaining how it was really the liberals that were the fascists.
Every conservative spent a lot of time telling me I simply must read this book.
Then there was Tucker, who said he'd have to blame liberals if he were to later support fascism because, really, what choice did he have? People kept calling him a fascist, the poor dear! And insisting that people Tucker doesn't value have rights!
So now he will realize he doesn't know shit and shut up, right?
Right?
The Atlantic is the worst
Holy shit is this author incompetent.
Trump himself may be a pure "patrimonialist". But to act like the rest of the American ruling class aren't textbook corporatist fascists defies credulity.
What a fucking idiot. People like this can't be trusted with a pen, much less a goddamned ballot.
For another, the term has been overused to the point of meaninglessness, especially by left-leaning types
Jonathan Rauch is holding out on the one thing we want to see: the websites of these left-leaning types, because they're the ones whose voices we should be hearing and promoting.
LMAO they're calling people fascists for acting like a fascist 🤷 not sure how that makes it meaningless.
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