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Luigi Mangione hearing tests legality of evidence in healthcare CEO murder case (www.theguardian.com)

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Alleged gunman faces nine charges including second-degree murder in New York state case

Luigi Mangione is due to appear in Manhattan state court on Monday for the first day of a potentially weeklong proceeding to weigh the legality of evidence gathered during his arrest after the killing of a prominent healthcare executive.

Mangione was apprehended last December in the murder of senior United HealthCare figure Brian Thompson last December. In addition to state-level charges, he faces a Manhattan federal court case.

Thompson’s brutal slaying on the streets of New York city triggered an intense manhunt for the killer, but also sparked an outpouring of anger at the practices of the US for-profit healthcare industry. Since his arrest Mangione has attracted some enthusiastic supporters, both online and at his court appearances.

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[-] flamiera@kbin.melroy.org 89 points 3 days ago

A CEO gets killed - the law, the police, the government are all out in droves to find who done it.

Your relative, a friend, your child even gets killed - eh, chances are likely you could get a cold case or not the desired results you were hoping for when the sentencing comes around. Oh and those thoughts and prayers.

It cannot be anymore clear as day as to who is pocketing the authority to do their bidding. Try and tell me with a straight face that the justice system is in favor of the people.

[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Americans get murdered by insurance company CEO’s and their shareholders every day.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago

too bad hes a low level ceo, the real one was witty before he retired and the BOD. witty dint even care that he died, because uhg was under investigation for INSIDER trading, and its likely thompson was the informant, ready to rat them out for immunity. you can google insider trading and ugh/uhc.

[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 33 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

To be fair, if a child dies...if it wasn't in a car crash or a school or accidental shooting, it was probably because of people like this CEO.

[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 12 points 3 days ago

Those car crashes and shootings are also result of policy put forward by people like this CEO.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

they need to make the "wealthy" feel safe, so they have this clown show to assure them.

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[-] shittydwarf@piefed.social 116 points 3 days ago

Cops were so thirsty for a conviction they completely broke the chain of custody on their "evidence". The whole thing should be thrown out

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 3 days ago

even mayor adams was doing a perpwalk, furthermore the trump adminstration is trying to get in involved, so its a politically motivated attack.

[-] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 72 points 3 days ago

The slaying wasn’t that brutal

[-] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 63 points 3 days ago

A clean, point blank shot to the head is just about as un-brutal as it gets, as far as non-consensual deaths go

[-] korazail@lemmy.myserv.one 23 points 3 days ago

A brutal slaying would be taking money from someone for years with the promise that if they get hurt, you will take care of them; and then when that occurs, you force them and their family through tons of beaurocracy before denying their help and consigning them to a slow death.

The editor should be fired for allowing such blatant bias to be published.

[-] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 26 points 3 days ago

Consensual Death would be a good band name.

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[-] bastion@feddit.nl 8 points 3 days ago

you're not wrong.

[-] TachyonTele@piefed.social 86 points 3 days ago

Thompson’s brutal slaying on the streets of New York city

Gtfo

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 47 points 3 days ago

Yeah, it was as brutal as any other shooting. Do cops shooting kids ever get described as "brutal"?

It's not like he was beaten to death with a tire iron, or denied treatment and left to a slow and agonizing death that also leaves your family in ruins.

[-] underisk@lemmy.ml 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

If you think about it, Luigi had far more compassion than the man he killed. Pretty quick and painless; compared to the outcomes of our healthcare system.

[-] NoTagBacks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

This BRUTAL ASSASSINATION of a poor little innocent ceo who definitely didn't profit on the corpses of thousands of people who were denied healthcare specifically because of his own intentional policies. This precious baby ceo was MORDERED in COLD BLOOD by this bloodthirsty ~~mass~~ murdering ~~immigrant~~ ~~minority~~ who hated him because FREEDOM and the BRAVE and BOLD decision of the ceo to allow poor people to be able to CHOOSE to die via paperwork ~~as a weapon~~. Surely this ceo who's name we can't find for some reason is smiling down on his beloved healthcare industry from the heaven that definitely exists. We hope the ultra powerful and scary ~~mass~~ murderer Luigi Mangione gets the JUSTICE the people of this country are clamoring for.

[-] Alaik@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 days ago

You forgot to pull the husband and father card. 8/10, really gotta hammer that orphan angle home next time.

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[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 24 points 3 days ago

It was just a corrective market force.

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[-] oh_@lemmy.world 96 points 3 days ago

My man is innocent. Was not even there.

[-] Madrigal@lemmy.world 60 points 3 days ago

Doesn't look remotely like the guy in that original mugshot they were flashing around.

[-] ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip 34 points 3 days ago

Right? This has bothered me from the beginning. He's not the guy in the footage who shoots Thompson, and it's obvious. But they need someone to take the fall as an example, to protect the rich.

[-] JustAnotherPodunk@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

If that was the case, wouldn't his lawyers have a better argument than "the cops gathered evidence wrong"?

There is wishful thinking, and our own biases about this case, but I feel like if the current story were true, we wouldn't be splitting hairs about Miranda rights. And to be very clear, from what I understand,supreme court precedent, specifically New York v. Quarles, it has been already established that you don't actually have to be read your Miranda rights if there is a public safety exception. I imagine that will be main counter argument.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but this sounds like a weak argument from the people who have all the official details of the interaction and narrative they are pushing.

[-] ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

You seem more knowledgeable than I am on this subject, so I would imagine you are correct. It's just that the guy in the footage who shoots Thompson is clearly someone else. And I'm not the only one who thinks they look like entirely different people. I've been confused by how this case has unfolded so far, which could explain how I'm making speculations about why they might've planted that evidence. This whole case stinks.

[-] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 47 points 3 days ago

Luigi was with me the whole time.

[-] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 44 points 3 days ago

You're a liar.

He was balls deep in my wife at the time this supposed murder took place.

[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago

Sounds like ThePyroPython is your wife

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[-] tenchiken@anarchist.nexus 13 points 3 days ago

Confirmed. I saw you watching them bone down while I was peeking through the window. Looked pretty fun, not gonna lie.

Nice house btw, and hot wife. You should be proud.

[-] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Lucky woman.

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[-] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

Luigi is actually Sam Reich.

“I’ve been here the whole time.”

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[-] rainbowbunny@slrpnk.net 56 points 3 days ago

How are the court hearings going for the cops that murder family members?

[-] glitch1985@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago

Whathhearings?

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[-] littlewonder@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago

Y'all need to look at the McDonald's manager's 911 call. She says that several customers are coming up to her and telling her it's the guy from the shooting and then she goes on to describe him as wearing a medical mask and sunglasses, etc.

So some guy who is mostly covered up looks like a guy who is mostly covered up? Yeah right. And you're telling me a ton of customers recognized him? Wtf

[-] possumparty 5 points 2 days ago

It was a bullshit call, they used NSA surveillance methods to track him. I'm not normally an unhinged conspiracy theorist but this time around I'm absolutely convinced they used everything in their toolbox to track him down since he was a threat to the status quo, instead of the usual school children which the rich are more than happy to sacrifice.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

up to his arrest, evidence gathering, plus the facial recognition probably used AI as well(they already use it in some form for red light violations)

[-] Sasquatch@lemmy.ml 50 points 3 days ago

In the women’s restroom, Mangione’s supporters chatted among themselves about this proceeding.

Truely top-tier journalism

[-] Scolding7300@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

Pretty sure his hearing is fine, not syre why he needs hearing tests

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago

need to hear his fans in court.

[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Free Luigi! Remember Remember the 4th of December. Jail the insurance CEO’s and Shareholders for mass murder!

[-] watson@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago

He’s so hot, OMG

The only crime here is that he is not my husband

[-] switcheroo@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

Self defense. Actually self defense plus defending his fellows. I see no crime in this. Luigi is innocent!

[-] RalphFurley@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

Can someone help me understand? It honestly sounds like he really did it but very well could get off on a technicality which to me is fine. I've had so many loved ones kicked off health care during terminal diseases and I despise for-profit model of the industry.

But it really seems like he did it, yet I see so many people questioning that. I'm just curious why that is.

[-] fonix232@fedia.io 32 points 3 days ago

People are questioning it because the initial CCTV pictures of the murderer do not match Mangione's features. They look similar enough for it to be pulled in as evidence - and further supported by the items confiscated from him during his arrest, but then again people are questioning the legitimacy of those things too - but the differences are visible enough for even a mid tier lawyer to argue that the CCTV recording is not of their client.

[-] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

He is just a fall guy because they were determined to punish someone for the crime of daring to fight back against the ruling class. Just the claim that he was found with the murder weapon and a manifesto proving motive is enough to conclude that.

Even the most insane of murderers don't carry around everything needed for conviction while out for lunch days later.

[-] mkwt@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

sounds like he really did it but very well could get off on a technicality

This is a suppression motion for unlawful search and seizure. To call this man's 4th amendment rights a "technicality" is some Law and Order copaganda bullshit.

These suppression motions are already very difficult to win. Mr. Mangione will have to show not only that his rights were violated, but also that the cops would not have found the evidence through a different, legal means. So if he does win, it will not be "on a technicality." It's just the system ensuring that everyone's constitutional rights are respected.

[-] Carmakazi@piefed.social 16 points 3 days ago

In addition to some alleged incongruity of the evidence, I think a lot of people actually think he did it but they want him to get away with it/don't think what he did was wrong, and throwing mud in the water is a way to show support for him, albeit a somewhat disingenuous one.

[-] wooffersyt@lemmings.world 10 points 3 days ago

He didn't do it because I did.

Looks like I'm going to get away with it, too ;)

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