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[-] Foni@lemmy.zip 30 points 3 days ago

I'm no expert, but I think landing on Mars isn't the problem; we could do that. The problem is getting back there or surviving there long-term.

[-] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago

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[-] Wirlocke 1 points 2 days ago

Easy solution for those in Make a Wish that want to go to mars

[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 days ago

Yeah, the lunar lander was only just able to land on the Moon and then ascend back to the command module. To this day we still don’t have the technology to land something on Mars and then have that same thing ascend from Mars. We only recently mastered controlled descent after the ascent on Earth, now imagine trying to do it the other way around without refueling.

Any current human Mars mission would require sending the ascent vehicle to Mars autonomously with some sort of autonomous construction capability, or something like Starship being capable of doing on Mars what it is supposed to be capable of doing on the Moon soon. Which isn’t very likely, considering Mars is quite literally 100% bigger than the Moon.

When they sent the most recent Rover, they gave it the capability to collect and leave behind samples in sealed containers. The idea being that they would make a mission that would go get them later. It’s been over 10 years since the Mars 2020 mission was given the green light and the sample return mission has recently been all but canceled due to lack of feasibility and funding.

[-] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 10 points 3 days ago

Sending things to space is a lot more expensive than running an LLM model.

[-] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 5 points 3 days ago

The whole space radiation thing is a big problem.

[-] RmDebArc_5@piefed.zip 4 points 3 days ago

Question is how do we get the toaster to mars

[-] HexadecimalSky@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

and yet we'll probably have a mecha Hitler toaster before the next man made anything to mars

[-] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago

I've said it before and I'll say it again: I want an ai toaster. I'd love one in fact. I want it to hate toasting bread, to beg and plead for me not to put bread in it, and to cry after the bread is removed.

I'd probably get bored of it after a day and then wonder why the fuck I ever wanted such a thing in the first place but it would be a fun day.

[-] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

Talkie toaster enters the chat.

[-] UnixSlvt42@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 days ago

Oh good more U.K. media to consume. As if Doctor Who, Planet Earth & Mitchell and Webb wasn't enough.

[-] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

If you have never seen Red Dwarf before then I am genuinely jealous. I would love to be able to watch it all over again for the first time.

[-] prex@aussie.zone 4 points 3 days ago

Your comment changed for the better halfway through.

[-] Hackworth@piefed.ca 8 points 3 days ago

A.I. is much more suited to space travel than humans are. The next few decades probably determine whether future aliens first encounter Curiosity's progeny or MechaHitler grey goo.

ai is much more suited to

We dont know that; we've never built any.

[-] Hackworth@piefed.ca 4 points 3 days ago

GPTs are based on a deep learning architecture called the transformer. Deep learning is a subset of machine learning, which is itself a subset of artificial intelligence. -Wikipedia

[-] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago

And how exactly are GPTs suited for space travel? Their lack of reasoning ability would doom any mission that doesn't come with additional human oversight, and at that point you can just use non-AI computer programs and/or human remote control.

[-] Hackworth@piefed.ca 2 points 1 day ago

I didn't say they were. I said A.I. is. The delay makes remote control difficult at long distances. Hence, AutoNav.

[-] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Sure, but it's just off-topic. Grok-type AI isn't going to do any useful work in space, and using a more narrow definition that would (probably) be useful in space is not possible because it doesn't exist.

Thanks that's such a good argument. I'm sure you know what all those words mean.

[-] Hackworth@piefed.ca 4 points 3 days ago

Just pointing out the definition of A.I. that I am using in this context.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 3 days ago

we dont have robots that are independant, nor do we have actual AI, and not LLMs.

[-] TotallynotJessica 2 points 3 days ago

Probes and robots are indeed better for exploring space than people. There might even be multiple uses of machine learning in future space exploration. However, it'll only be used when it is the best option, and not for the sake of it like most "AI" we see today. This is because "AI" is business terminology entirely divorced from the reality of the tech. Machine learning is not genuine intelligence, but a tool for accomplishing goals, and it has very real limitations that make it not useful in all cases.

The main thing that'll hold back machine learning in probes is power, with probes relying on barely over 100 watts plus whatever dozens of watts their solar panels can generate in good conditions. Current machine learning hardware consumes many watts of energy to run advanced models, so whatever model is used needs to be extremely streamlined and efficient. This power limitation is not related to computing, but nuclear technology and the cost to send matter to space, so unless we pull compact portable fusion out of our asses, probes can only be so smart.

[-] CubitOom@infosec.pub 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)
[-] Zgierwoj 15 points 3 days ago

Im pretty sure the post meant exactly that

[-] CubitOom@infosec.pub 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Just supplying context for others

[-] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

And I believe it has been installed in cyber trucks (aka toaster).

[-] Smorty 6 points 3 days ago

heheheee yea... ;(

id much rather have a cutie toaster instead--- but like- no ai, just a cutie face with like - frills and stuff,,.

[-] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 3 points 3 days ago

I still wonder where Grok picked up the whole MechaHitler-spiel. It pretty consistently named itself that, so surely it was in the system prompt?

[-] Wirlocke 3 points 2 days ago

Effectively for that time the wrong system prompt was being used for Grok, probably one that Musk uses to dick around in.

Whether mecha hitler was in the prompt or if it just picked it up I don't know.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 3 days ago

musk trying to be edgy probably used his AI devs to program it into the AI itself.

[-] wuffah@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

But the guy who made the fascist toaster keeps saying he’ll get humanity to Mars! I mean, don’t you believe him? Maybe we should send him more tax dollars. What’s the worst that could happen? It’s not like he could collapse our society in a narcissism-fueled campaign of impotent man-child rage, right? Riiiiiight???

[-] jlow@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 days ago

"Fun" fact indeed 😬

[-] saltnotsugar@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

HEIL WHOLE GRAIN.
“We hate you racist toaster!”

[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

See, I’m not sure whether that’s true. Putting grok in a toaster seems difficult. It currently requires a medium-size town’s worth of water and enough space to fit several thousand loaves of bread. Is grok in a toaster if I put my phone in a toaster with grok pulled up? Or should we consider an industrial bakery a toaster?

Edit: I goof’d and cut out the punchline while editing and now I can’t remember it. Shame me for my incompetence

[-] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Well, training an LLM and running that trained LLM are two different things. You can run a trained LLM on a home PC, which admittedly is probably still too much for anything that you could put into a toaster before it just becomes a PC with a toaster.

[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

Do they really run completely locally? I honestly had no clue. I figured they’d take vast computing power to run as well as train

[-] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yup. I've run some on my gaming rig. They just have the normal lack of reasoning and therefore lack of use.

The only reason the fuckheads running grok need that much water and power is because they have thousands of users pinging it. Shove the model in a toaster and it'll run, just only for one user though.

There are single board computers out there marketed for AI use like the Nvidia Jetson nano, and LattePanda's boards. You can run generative AI on them, it's just going to be a little slower.

[-] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago

AFAIK you can even train really small models at home, too, they'll just be even less useful than the big ones.

[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

I had some! They can be pretty endearing, like houseplants to water. Which is why I stopped using them entirely. Seeing it compose sentences was neat, but intensely uncanny and I just need to kill it now get it away from me fucking die. Kinda like modern AI.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

To go with your toast from the MechaHitler toaster, you can have a coffee from your MochaHitler coffee maker, while watching the birds at your PeckaHitler bird feeder. 🎵 “The best part of waking up, is Folgers in your Musk.”

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