Which TV series do you think receives unnecessary hate? (piefed.social)

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[-] Yukito01@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago

Friends. Sure, many of the jokes haven't aged well, and the laugh track can be a bit too much for modern audiences, but it became an icon of its generation for a reason. I get that some people may not vibe with it, but it's nowhere near as bad as the mainstream Lemmy makes it out to be.

On that note, I really miss that kind of "wholesome" sitcom. It feels like newer sitcoms are all about cringe or the ridiculous lives of shitty people. While Friends' cast may not have been paragons of humanity, they were, or at least so in the first half of the show, good, regular people. I miss that in TV.

[-] Twinklebreeze@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

I have hated friends since it was in TV, and I don't like everyone jumping on the bandwagon. You shouldn't be allowed to take off that uniform. If you liked friends back then, you can't talk shit on it now. Same with Nickelback. I hate them when everyone loved them, and now everyone wants to pretend they don't like them? Get outta here. /rant

[-] IWW4@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 days ago

Friends is hated? If anything that show is beloved.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 3 days ago

i think the hate goes to the lack of POCs in a place like NYC, i think thats the only criticism that was remarkable.

[-] Yukito01@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

I know! But Lemmy/R***it seem to have some irrational hate for it.

[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago

Stargate Universe. I loved it and I wish they’d reboot it.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

yea people hated the first season, then protested and refused to watch the rest of it, plus pirating movies/shows was just taking off back then. plus MGM was having so much financial trouble too.

in hindsight, according to the showrunners/writers, who did ama on sg subreddit. they said season 3 was going to have some interesting storylines. planetbuilder arc, and the mysterious drone creators, was suppose to be one of the novus colonies, that developed advanced technology centuries ago, which made sense since they alluded to destiny being tracked, and blockaded so easily in season 2.(the novus colony wanted destiny for themselves).

the showrunners/writers, said they were uncomfortable to bring it back, due to the "current climate of things."

[-] Tehdastehdas@piefed.social 4 points 4 days ago

So many assholes in the same place somehow.

The incompetent camera operator gives me a shakycam headache. I could only watch it on a small screen.

[-] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

LOST, specifically the finale. There seems to be a common misunderstanding that the finale meant "they were dead the entire time".

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The Flash Forward timeline was them in a kind of purgatory where they all went after they died. They stayed there so they could all move on together. The rest of the main timeline on the island, flashbacks, etc were their actual lives in the show.

I'm not a religious or spiritual person at all, but for a scifi/fantasy show like LOST I thought it was a cool way to wrap things up.

[-] Lemming6969@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

It was utter shit and deserves more hate than it gets.

[-] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

eloquent retort good sir.

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[-] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 days ago

Only a LOST fan would put the word "spoiler" after the spoiler.

[-] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

only a lost hater would lack the reading comprehension to understand that isn’t a spoiler. it’s a misconception, so it’s not spoiling anything.

also the show is 20 years old, shut the fuck up about spoiler nitpicking.

[-] scytale@piefed.zip 16 points 4 days ago

True Detective Seasons 2 and 3. Some people are so high on S1 they think S2 and S3 are bad. Both are perfectly fine neo noir shows. Obviously they won’t surpass S1 but they are good in their own right.

[-] IWW4@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 days ago

I am so sick of hearing this bullshit.

S2, S3 and S$ were all just really bad shows.

How many prolonged conversations did the Vaughn and Reilly have about the nature of parenthood. Holy fuck it must have been three times?

How many times did we get so see Ferrall’s character pass out at the bar to the chic singing WTF she was singing.

Good do s2 was utter shit.

[-] Ilandar@lemmy.today 2 points 4 days ago

I was struggling to think of something but this is a very good shout (although I suppose it's technically not the entire series, just some of the seasons from it). Even Season 4 was okay in it's own way, it just wasn't Season 1 again which is what a large chunk of the fanbase of that show seems to want and expect.

[-] TheUnicornOfPerfidy@feddit.uk 3 points 4 days ago

Season 4 kicks ass! It's way better than 2 and 3. Do people not like it?

[-] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Season 4 was great! I think it excelled because it didn't try to recreate the chemistry between the characters of s1. It did its own thing, and did it extremely well!

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That line the lady gives in the last episode "So we decided to tell our own story." Straight chills. The whole season was worth it for that one line.

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[-] snooggums@piefed.world 3 points 4 days ago

it just wasn't Season 1 again which is what a large chunk of the fanbase of that show seems to want and expect.

We didn't want season 1 again, we wanted something as good as season 1 again.

[-] Ilandar@lemmy.today 3 points 4 days ago

Season 1 of that show set an insanely high bar, it's pretty close to perfect television. I try to avoid comparisons for that reason.

[-] SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Except for the ending.

[-] TheUnicornOfPerfidy@feddit.uk 2 points 4 days ago

I know right? It lost a lot with that lacklustre finish.

[-] SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

First time I watched it I was positive that Rust was going to give them that same speech he does, and then the others walk away and Rust looks up into the night sky and he can see that spiral vortex that he saw in Carcosa, filling the heavens and reflected in his eyes.

Like, c'mon, it writes itself!

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 16 points 4 days ago

Big Bang Theory.

[-] Taco2112@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Same, I don’t even like the show but my girlfriend watches it occasionally and it’s…fine, I laugh sometimes. The amount of people online who complain about it and vehemently hate it is tiresome. Yes, it has a laugh track, yes, there are much better shows to watch, and yes to a number of other reasons it is not a great show. But, the amount of time and energy people devote to complaining about something they don’t like is stupid to me. Cool, you don’t like this thing that most people (myself included) in this space don’t like either, we don’t need yet another post complaining about it again. Please move on and don’t let something so trivial take up so much space in your head.

[-] SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

I think the issue with BBT is that it was so ubiquitous, it was just massively visible for a long time for such a bland, cheesy show.

[-] golli@sopuli.xyz 9 points 4 days ago

I think what often gets underestimated is that bland/cheesy/predictable can sometimes be exactly what people are looking for. Imo these kind of shows/movies are a bit like white noise, sometimes people just want to zone out or have some background noise. In that case a show being good or complex might actually be negative, since you might psychologically feel bad if you miss something.

[-] SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Sure, but that's why people who have higher standards hate it.

[-] moody@lemmings.world 5 points 4 days ago

Sounds to me like having high standards makes people miserable.

[-] ech@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

You say that like there's a shortage of good/great media out there, that people that don't accept schlock just because it's there are left to wallow in anger without alternative. No, we just watch things that aren't garbage. It's not that hard.

[-] moody@lemmings.world 1 points 3 days ago

There's a ton of great media out there, but whether or not something is good is an entirely subjective matter. If you don't like it, don't watch it. If you do, good for you. Judging people for what they like is shitty.

[-] SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

I mean, if you enjoy spending your life binging bland, low quality shit then I'm happy for you, current times must be a utopia.

[-] pixeltree 7 points 4 days ago

I hated it because people told me about this funny show for nerds! And I started watching it and it was about nerds (a caricature of them anyway) instead of for them. It's a dumb show, not a smart, which is fine, except for everyone telling me I should go watch it, I'd love it.

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

It was so rarely funny though. I watched a few episodes and there was just nothing. No characters, nothing funny, no exciting plot... I just never came back.
As opposed to something like Community.

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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

The show is what it is. If you want cheap laughs and to not think too hard it’s perfect. I liked it. It does get a bit two dimensional after a while, so we quit watching it. It was fine while we enjoyed it, so it served its purpose. No need to hate it.

[-] TheUnicornOfPerfidy@feddit.uk 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

House of the Dragon. It's a masterpiece! Incredible writing, exquisite character development, tense political manoeuvring and in the rare moment of action, an unrivalled level of spectacle.

[-] IWW4@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 days ago

I don’t hate HoD, I just don’t care about it.

With that said, Exquisite writing? The whole of last season could have been two episodes.

It was wild how Rhaenyra basically teleported back and forth to king’s landing and everything Daemon did was half an episode stretched out across the entire season.

[-] TheUnicornOfPerfidy@feddit.uk 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

If I'm not mistaken you're talking about plot rather than writing. I'm talking about the crackling dialogue and the incredible acting that carries it. It almost Shakespearean at times.

"The Dragons dance and men are like dust under their feet. And all our fine thoughts, all of our endeavors are as nothing. We march now toward our annihilation... To die will be a kind of relief."

I mean. Come the fuck on!!! That's top draw writing if ever it happened! Particularly when it comes from such a headstrong character.

The eldritch imaginings of Herrenhall are obviously pretty weird (wyrd maybe even) and I understand that can be polarising, but it had some real Macbeth energy that I'm also very much down for.

In terms of plot, because of the great writing the repositioning of factions and characters was fascinating to me. The way and the why each of those new positions arrived kept me utterly hooked.

[-] tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I'm not going to comment on House of the Dragon (as I haven't seen it) but the term "writing" is very broad, and refers to the screenplay as a whole.

Settings, scene transitions, character actions and dialogue are all part of the screenplay, and so plot holes are very much writing criticisms, even if other aspects of the writing such as the dialogue are sharp.

[-] TheUnicornOfPerfidy@feddit.uk 2 points 3 days ago

Then I may very well be mistaken. I've always thought of it as the words that get from the page to my ears. I guess there's a lot more to a screenplay than that though. I stand corrected.

[-] purplerabbit@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 days ago

Honestly, I really like everything that came after the season one of Prison Break. Most people consider this as a moment where the show goes downhill and I can see it, but I really like it. Sure, it's strange and weird, but it's still gripping and captivating.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 3 days ago

Enterprise, the series, if they dint make xindi being the whole season 3, i think more people wouldve recieved it better. Plus LES moonves doomed the franchise

[-] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Xindi could have been a really cool plotline if it didn't function as Bush doctrine apologism. Shit, even if they didn't lay it on so thick.

[-] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 3 days ago

Nah, the hate for the early seasons was justified. Berman shit the bed hard, and Braga was Braga and just followed along.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

and then Les moonves destroyed the series at the end.

[-] IWW4@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 days ago

The 7th season of The Game of Thrones. I absolutely loved it.

Got really started to show its cracks in the fourth season and the fifth season was fucking terrible. The only redeeming episode in all of the fifth season was the battle of Hardhome. The show started improving in the sixth season.

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