https://xcancel.com/TaylorLorenz/status/1980035057067884670
The original tweet/pic - https://xcancel.com/turnintoabat/status/1979728545934188822 -
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Ah I see - there is your problem. You posted on X, the "Everything Nazi" app.
Read "Grok can make mistakes" as "Grok was a mistake from the very beginning, and they have yet to apologize to the world for it".
Can someone explain the screenshots?
I hope people dont see this and get discouraged, its not always that expensive. I also feel like something's listed here are reasonable that she would get done anyway. Like hair cuts and whatnot which isn't specifically nessecary only because she is trans. Yes being trans can be expensive just like anything else, but that is far from the only option. Please dont see this and be discouraged 😺
we should still talk about how expensive and gatekeepy trans healthcare is. yes you can be trans without HRT or surgeries, but how many people don’t have them because they don’t want them, VS how many people don’t have them because they can’t have them?
the numbers last I checked were something like around half of all trans women want a vaginoplasty but haven't had it, but only around 10% have actually had it - so obviously the costs, the preparation, and medical gatekeeping are all barriers to many people getting the surgery they need ...
I agree. While The transparency is good to see, there are quite a few things listed that she would need as a cis woman to look like that. Underarm laser, tattoos and piercings, botox, lip filler, hair cuts and dyeing, nails, even the BA would be a requirement for most cis women to have boobs like that.
I think this makes as much of a point about unrealistic beauty standards derived from wealthy celebrities/influencers as it does trans healthcare.
You definitely don't have to have all of that stuff done, either.
+1 to this, each transition is different and dependent on what is necessary - I know a trans girl who has no intention of ever getting an orchi, but would like to get breast augmentation.
Vulvoplasty is also a cheaper and easier surgery than vaginoplasty that more and more patients are getting - I know a girl IRL who decided to get a vulvoplasty and not a vaginoplasty, she recovered fairly quickly!
I wish I could get FFS, but have no intention of getting BA.
Guys haircuts are like 20$ tho
I've met hairy cis girls. I've met cis girls that were balding, cis girls that had flat chests, cis girls with chiseled jawlines, with a square torso, narrow hips, thin lips, a clit that rivalled micropenises.
None of these things define what a woman is; artifacts of beauty standards and skewed sense of averages. There's certainly 'typically feminine' traits many aspire to, but too many people conflate their ideal body & looks with gender identity IMO.
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Hairdressers typically charge more if you're a woman, even for the same haircut.
Also, for many men the haircut in the post is literally impossible unless they get a wig or something.
That's true. The MoistCr1tikal cut is a bit more achievable, but still takes a long time to grow out like that. Very annoying.
I mean the big issue with long hair on men is that many men are balding or have thinning hair/early stages of balding. You can't really make long hair look good like that, even if short hairstyles (by men's standards) still look fine.
That's true. It's very inconvenient.
Mf where do you go that you see haircuts for $20? Here they're easily double...
There's always Great Clips. Not recommended.
They do tend to be more frequent.
these numbers are super inaccurate, lol
PPT vaginoplasty is probably going to be a lot more than $20,000 (with anaesthesia, a week recovery in the hospital, etc. that total is going to be a lot more, $100,000 - $150,000 is more accurate, but that's why you get it covered by insurance).
You can get unlimited laser for all body parts at Milan for like $10,000, so $22,000 is more than double what the most expensive laser option should be.
It would be $20,000 if you get it done in Thailand. Not everyone can get it covered by insurance.
Can confirm, a friend of mine had it done in Thailand for almost exactly that much.
I went to Milan to get a price for facial & neck (just to check how much I would save up) and it was $8,800, so $9,000 is pretty accurate for that part in particular
For my face and neck I paid like € 1,800. Without insurance, that is.
With insurance I could've paid € 0, but that involves sending your pictures to the insurer. No thanks.
Hey its the user you're testing blocking on. I can also see your profile and replies you've made while I'm blocked, as well as upvote them and reply to them.
Edit, so I can contribute to the thread just a bit: a friend of mine got her FFS in South America and while i didnt ask how much it cost, there ain't no way she paid $40k for that. She said she went down there because even with the vacation costs added, it was cheaper to do it there than in the US.
Yeah, I unblocked ya. It's interesting.
Anyway, yeah, $40k is excessive.
I think here it's like € 5k, probably less.
that's interesting, did you get it from Milan or somewhere else? i might need a name of it is somewhere else 👀
No, it is way up north. A few thousand kilometers more.
Yeah mine was hybrid pi (as basically all reputable pi is these days) and was a flat fee of 20k
the fee you pay is different than the total costs, I paid $1,000 for my PIV, but the total costs were still over $100,000. That's not including the thousands I spent on a hotel room for the week after I was discharged but not permitted to go home yet.
Edit: I should say I'm in the US, there are cheaper options elsewhere like Thailand. There is even a very cheap option in Thailand where they don't put you under general anaesthesia to keep costs low.
I should clarify, that was the uninsured price. I spent a lot less because I wound up with insurance covering it. And yeah total costs were a fair bit higher including the hair removal.
Edit: I should say my surgeon was in Cleveland
and brianna wu will still say you're only trans if you can transition medically......
How dare you. I nearly forgot her name.
Who is turnintoabat? Why are they quote tweeting this other Taylor?
turnintoabat posted information on her transition. Journalist thinks because her name is taylor it must be taylor lorenz. Taylor Lorenz finally gets looped in and is so confused.
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