Let’s be real here. You shouldn’t bring camo with you pretty much anywhere besides hunting.
I've never understood The South and the military wankfest.
If anything, hunting is one of the worst places to wear camo
Hmm. Everyone around me has guns and wants to shoot a large mammal. I know! I'll blend into the background so that I only stand out when I move!
That's why you are required almost everywhere to have some amount of hunter orange on. This makes you visible to humans who can see the color but still not visible to animals who cannot see that tone of orange.
Why isn't the orange striped like tigers?
Because hunting in or near trees is different than the long grass tigers hunt in. That is why leopards and jaguars have spots instead of stripes.
Orange camouflage is like the common green camouflage pattern but all oranges or with orange mixed in.
Never seen orange mixed in, only solid which prompted my question.
Heres an example.
Solid orange wouldn't be camo...
Kind of like this?
Because it speaks to what camouflage is actually for.
This isn't Metal Gear Solid 3 where you put on the right shit and detection radiuses drop and you can sprint past a guard. Camouflage is about blending in with your background just enough that it buys you more time on the approach or makes it harder to spot you at a distance.
Tigers (orange and white or orange and black stripes) are very much meant to blend into tall grass. They sit in the grass waiting for their prey and their coloring tends to match-ish the tall grass against orange soil and sky of places like the Serengeti.
So how does that work with military camo and the like? Uhm... The effectiveness varies drastically but can best be seen with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Woodland#/media/File:BDUs-forest.jpg. Against the dirt road they stick out like a sore thumb. Against the leafy foliage? Not horrible and you could very much imagine that buying a few meters when approaching in a dense jungle. But if there are too many trees or the foliage is too green (as in that picture), the brown bits stick out a LOT.
Mostly the idea of these camouflage patterns are to minimize detection from the air and to help people hide when they are laying in wait. Which... is why snipers and the like don't rely on it. They bring tarps that better match the pattern of what they are going to lay against or wear ghillie suits that are basically mesh nets that they can stick leaves and twigs or just appropriately colored fabric into. Hell, one of the "rites of passage" of sniper schools and the like is to literally roll around in the mud in a uniform because that is going to be MUCH more effective than whatever made in china fabric the BDUs are made of. It just loses the ease of distinguishing one side from the other.
Which is why the competent cosplaying hunters don't really rely on their clothes to hide them while they are walking around and just bring a tarp to hide under while waiting in a blind. Because outside of VERY specific approaches... they are still going to stick out like a sore thumb. ESPECIALLY if they are close enough to take a shot against a deer in a dense forest.
Which gets back to the original question. Why is "blaze orange camouflage not tiger striped": Because it is a cosplay wank fantasy that lets stores jack up the prices over just buying a high vis vest that cyclists use. And the pattern genuinely does not matter because none of those colors match when you are laying down and hiding, let alone trudging along hunting trails.
Tigers in the Serengeti?
Yeah, dude's just making shit up or regurgitating an ai hallucination. Orange tiger stripes aren't blending in with orange dirt either. The herbivores that are a tiger's prey are reg/green colorblind, which means the orange tiger blends in with the green grasses because the animals can't distinguish between those colors well.
The rest of the comment isn't much better. From claiming that a ghillie suit isn't camouflage (it is). To claiming that a solid color is better camouflage than a camouflage with a decent disruptive pattern. There is good camo and bad camo out there, but Nuxcom_90penis doesn't seem like the type to see subtly in anything. That's why I'm up voting you and agreeing with your sentiment here instead of kicking that toxic hornet's nest.
That depends on what you're hunting. Whitetail deer? The deer use scent and hearing much more than visual. Birds? They can see more colors than us and camouflage is important.
Not hunting either. High viz unless you want to get shot.
I mean it's kind of a fun pattern in streetwear. I like mashing it up with queer or androgynous stuff 🤷♂️
Edit: can anyone tell me why I'm being downvoted? I don't really care but it's clear some people really strongly disagree with me and I'm not entirely sure why...
People disagree because it's still an abstraction of camo. Wearing it in the first place came from people fawning over militarism.
I actually think it can work with a queer look in one of two ways, so you are likely fine: Either it's effectively teasing the pro authoritarian militarism camo types, or it's a radical anarchy armed rebel look, which without praxis is really just the former look again. Either way these are fine.
Another reason maybe you've been downvoted is that people loathe the deep abstraction of modern, or rather postmoderm society. Camo was made for soldiers > Camo was worn by patriotic civilians simulating the soldier aesthetic > particularly under the Bush administration, it became less a symbol of soldiers, and more a symbol of patriots. Patriotism is nationalism.
Today when most of us camo in the military cosplaying way, we think 'nationalist'. When we see a person in a little bit of camo, perhaps just some came shorts and a regular t-shirt, we think either 'nationalist', 'okay with nationalism' or 'ignorant of nationalism'.
So when most people see someone in a blended queer and camo look, they probably assume one of three things: 'ignorant of nationalism', 'critical of nationalism in a rebellious manner' or 'pro nationalist queer'. Of course one of these is fine, but one is very bad.
Aren't you supposed to wear a bright neon vest to not shoot another guy?
Just remember if you do shoot another guy, he needs to issue a public apology to you afterwards.
Depends on what you're hunting. Duck hunting for example. Ducks have great eyesight and will see you if you're wearing blaze orange.
You shouldn't get on a cruise ever
I am aware of the chicanery cruise lines get up to, as well as the depravity that is commonplace on many American cruise lines. Oh, and emissions.
Apart from that, why should I avoid them?
What more reasons do you need lmao.
Also all of the shit goes into the water iirc
Any ship built in the last ten years has onboard waste processing facilities and water desalination plants. The only thing that goes back into the ocean is purified graywater, and ash. Plastics are stowed until they return to land.
The way the ships are built was drastically changed in the last decade because of the big lawsuits that Carnival got smacked within 2016 and 2019. There’s some pretty neat videos on YouTube about how Disney’s ships handle trash and human waste. It’s sorted better than most metropolitan waste companies.
Depravity? Like moral depravity? Like swinger cruises or concert cruises with lots of drugs? Or just indulgence in general and a lack of care on environmental and local economic impacts?
My point was regarding the former, but the latter certainly would be an issue for me too.
Most people go on vacations for the wrong reasons, if you ask me. There’s an opportunity to experience an entirely different culture and learn about how other people live, but a lot of people waste their time at a resort.
Why Cruise Ships Ban Camouflage
The camouflage ban is not a matter of dress code, where the nautical sea-dogs in their pristine ship’s whites turn their noses up at certain sartorial choices. It’s actually much more practical.
In a lot of countries, particularly in some cruise-friendly areas like the Caribbean, wearing camouflage is illegal as a civilian because it’s part of a military uniform. Think of it as being akin to impersonating a police officer; it’s really not the kind of confusion—or trouble—you want to get into on vacation. Even camo patterns with non-traditional colors beyond the usual brown and green are not allowed.
Point of order, wearing camo pattern on anything other than military/hunting attire just looks bad.
If you’re on a cruise and you want your clothes to look busy, why not try a floral print?
tropical camo
I'm going to call it that now, and probably seem really clever and funny at the next luau-themed party I attend. Then people will like me.
Camo, generally on military styled clothes, is a super fun print in street wear. I really like puting it together with androgynous or queer looking stuff 🤷♂️
Edit: can anyone tell me why I'm being downvoted? I don't really care but it's clear some people really strongly disagree with me and I'm not entirely sure why...
Can we do this in america please
I mean it's essentially no different than wearing police uniform, so makes sense
How about Camo Bermuda, is that part of their military as well?
Tbf, if you're on a cruise ship and it docks at Zimbabwe, then worse mistakes have been made than your choice of outfit.
TIL you shouldn't bring camouflage ~~on a cruise~~ to any place in which you do not need to be concealed.
In my experience you don’t even need camo to blend in. I’m a self-proclaimed military autist and my entire wardrobe is earth tones. That alone is enough to startle people on the trails when they’re not looking ahead and I suddenly appear in front of them on my bike. Camo obviously helps, but it’s not about perfectly blending in - it’s about not standing out. When I spot people in the woods it’s always because of a pale face or hands, or some brightly colored or white piece of clothing. Black stands out a lot too, but anything gray, brown, or green usually disappears into the background unless you’re staring right at it.
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