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[-] boydster@sh.itjust.works 212 points 3 days ago

Weird how we have to pay more money every single year, and insurance somehow provides us less and less for our greater and greater spend

[-] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 99 points 3 days ago

Or, with car insurance, you get punished for actually using the service you pay for.

[-] samus12345@lemm.ee 60 points 3 days ago

A service you are legally required to pay for, no less.

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 23 points 3 days ago

Isn't the required car insurance the part that covers the OTHER cars, property and people you might harm with your car?

I don't think it's required that you carry enough insurance to be able to replace your own car. Might depend on your state, though?

[-] BassTurd@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

Usually if there is a lien against the title, you're required to carry full coverage, and liability only when you own the title.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago

Oh, but ~~if you're rich,~~ we have the best healthcare system in the world! ~~Rich~~ people from all over the globe come to America for medical care!

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[-] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 14 points 3 days ago

It is actually kinda incredible. I remember seeing a comic in Mad Magazine back in the 90s that satirized insurance companies by cutting 'expensive' healthcare and the cartoon showed an emaciated patient on IV and the insurance guy about to cut the tube with scissors.

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[-] POTOOOOOOOO@reddthat.com 111 points 3 days ago

I have a friend who has a prosthetic. Sure they could live their life in a wheelchair. But this guy goes hiking, and acts like a fully capable walking person. The quality of life is huge. It really gives back their life.

[-] FundMECFSResearch 77 points 3 days ago

Yep. It’s absolutely insane they wouldn’t cover it.

It’s honestly unethical as shit.

[-] toast@retrolemmy.com 75 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Unethical and counterproductive. Having a prosthetic limb would almost invariably lead to a less sedentary lifestyle, which is strongly correlated with better health. Paying for a prosthetic today has to be cheaper than paying for a heart attack or diabeties later.

[-] lemmylommy@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago

Yes, but who cares about later if there are quarterly and yearly profits to get.

[-] ggppjj@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago

You're making the assumption that they'll pay out for a heart attack or diabetes later. You just said that they were caused by the pre-existing condition of not having a prosthetic limb.

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[-] credo@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

They are saying it’s not “medically necessary” to have any quality of life. As long as you’re breathing, you’re A-okay in their book.

This is what insurance in the US has come to mean.

[-] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

Like how they still consider dental care to be "cosmetic." They'll rip them out of your head free of charge, but putting new ones in? No sir... You can eat mush!

But God forbid anyone mentions a solution that includes socialized healthcare...

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[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 61 points 3 days ago
[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 60 points 3 days ago

This just feeds into my disillusionment with science and technology. What is the point of having developed these incredible things to then not go and use them. I just have to spell it out now. What. The. Fuck. You know I was born into a modern age but looks like im going to die in the dark ages.

[-] tiefling 30 points 3 days ago

In capitalism, EVERYTHING only exists for profit. If there isn't money to be drained, it's tossed to the landfill

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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago

It’s not a Sci/Tech issue.

It’s a dystopian capitalism issue. When products that don’t have adequate profit margin and volume to make notable contributions to the bottom line, or worse yet, negativley affect the bottom line in a high per-unit cost, they are a liability. Profits direct research, too, unfortunately.

Humanity, quality of life, and all that medical shit is secondary or even further down the priority list for the corporations thinking about their profits first and the “service” last.

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[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 84 points 3 days ago

Noooo heckin' killing CEOs is violent and bad

Then this fucking headline pops up.

They're basically crippling people, who could have at least some kind of limb use, by denying them limbs that THEY ALREADY PAID FOR AS PART OF INSURANCE PAYMENTS.

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 53 points 3 days ago

This is exactly the type of shit that radicalizes people into violent action.

It's almost like they're trying to force people to be violent. I don't get it.

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[-] sheetzoos@lemmy.world 41 points 3 days ago

I wonder if someone cut off the CEO's limbs, would the medical necessity of prosthetic limbs would be questioned?

[-] FundMECFSResearch 28 points 3 days ago

You know, maybe we should force healthcare CEOs to be insured with the lowest tier of their own insurance.

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[-] GnillikSeibab@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago
[-] bad_alloc@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 3 days ago

Why are US citzens not founding a health care co-op? Are there even viable solutions left over there?

[-] TimboSlice@discuss.online 19 points 3 days ago

Between the regulatory capture and corporate/political bribery, it'll be tough to change anything from a grassroots perspective.

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[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 51 points 3 days ago

Man, I wish I could serve on that Luigi jury.

[-] ArbiterXero@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago

So say we all.

[-] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 3 days ago
[-] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 19 points 3 days ago

It would be hilarious if this happened again and the guy was called Mario.

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[-] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 39 points 3 days ago

Wow. This means that now, someone can say that medical bills literally cost them an arm & a leg.

[-] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 10 points 2 days ago
[-] enbyecho@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago

"I mean technically any medical service is not truly medically necessary, right? You could just die*"

*Funeral services are not covered under your current plan.

[-] ViscloReader@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago

Someone needs to play super Mario bros again.

[-] shininghero@pawb.social 33 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Lemmy Netizens Consider Offing Another Healthcare CEO, Questioning Their Industry Necessity - Fediverse News Network
^*not^ ^an^ ^actual^ ^news^ ^network.^ ^Yet.^

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[-] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 27 points 3 days ago

Burn it all to the ground

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 28 points 3 days ago

Denied: Can't you just lie there like a broken Crash Test Dummy until you stop being a burden?

[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

You do get the sense your continued existence is a problem for them.

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[-] Nomad@infosec.pub 36 points 3 days ago

Tbh I was expecting the first comment to contain the name Luigi...

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[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago

Someone needs some adjusting.

[-] TheTimeKnife@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago

Insurance companies push obvious lies to intentionally defraud the public. That's their entire buisness model. That's why your doctor had to fight through dozens of automatic rejections sent by the insurance company, they fully intend to lie in order to avoid making payments they agreed too when signing you up for insurance. A just society would be putting these people in federal prisons.

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

You can make a perfectly serviceable peg leg with an old broom handle. Ask your insurance company for a free how-to brochure!

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago

Okay, I can spell out the "medical necessity" for you insurance companies in a way you'll understand: mental health is important for physical health. You do things to improve mental health and you also improve physical health. So if you improve someone's mental health now, you won't be paying out for all of the later physical problems brought on by the stress and the knowledge that their life would be better if only some more miserly than Scrooge insurance company would let them have a fucking leg.

[-] FundMECFSResearch 18 points 3 days ago

And having a prosthetic limb is important for physical health anyways. Helps you be more active, massively increases productivity (that’s what capitalists want right?), decreases wheelchair/caregiver costs, etc.

It’s simply an all around win.

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[-] innermachine@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

I think it's about time for an organized mass murder of all healthcare ceos.... Maybe then they'll learn? Or do we need to go after the shareholders too? What will it take? How can we make them quiver in their boots half as much as they fucked us out of paychecks only to tell us to get bent when we request the care we've paid for?

[-] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 3 days ago

This leads me to question the social necessity of companies gatekeeping medical services

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[-] ATDA@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

You think a CEO has ever been beaten near death with a broken prosthetic limb? Just asking maybe that's a thing.

[-] FelixCress@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

For idiots who would like the UK to adopt American system instead:

"NHS covers the cost of prosthetic limbs for those who need them. In the UK, there are around 55,000 to 60,000 patients who require prosthetic limbs due to amputation or congenital limb deficiencies, and NHS England allocates about £60 million annually for these services."

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[-] DyedCorpse@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

Luigi was right all along

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