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[-] seaQueue@lemmy.world 175 points 3 months ago

Whiteness won't help here, this dude attacked the owner class. He's going to be smeared then locked up for the rest of his life.

What remains to be seen now is whether he gets better medical care in prison than he did via publicly available insurance.

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 49 points 3 months ago

The answer to medical debt or trying to survive without health care .... murder a health insurance CEO, get thrown in jail and receive medical care while incarcerated.

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago

CEOs hate this one trick

This dude did not attack anyone. Evidence was so obviously planted that it's funny.

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[-] sevan@lemmy.ca 100 points 3 months ago

Well, he wasn't shot, choked to death, or mangled in the back of a police van at the time of arrest, so that's already a win for him.

[-] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago

Or locked up in the back and placed on train tracks...

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[-] Apepollo11@lemmy.world 93 points 3 months ago

Took me a second to puzzle this out...

Just in case any of my fellow Europeans need an extra nudge in the right direction, this is relating to the guy who has been arrested for shooting the healthcare CEO, and nothing to do with people in Italy.

[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 46 points 3 months ago

You mean the innocent man they arrested on suspicion of shooting the healthcare CEO

[-] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 22 points 3 months ago

You mean the good samaritan who shot the CEO.

[-] Asetru@feddit.org 15 points 3 months ago

Thanks. I was really wondering what this was about.

[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

well yeah, mediterraneans like Italians and Moroccans don't count as white in europe.

EDIT : People are thinking that this is being racist against people, wheras it's 60% satirical, 40% pointing out problematic perceptions of race.

EDIT2 : updated text and information :

https://lemmy.world/comment/13904300

[-] Lumidaub@feddit.org 47 points 3 months ago

"White" is not a category that is used a lot in Europe.

[-] bob_lemon@feddit.org 50 points 3 months ago

Exactly. The term we use to categorize Italians is "Italian".

[-] Sergio@slrpnk.net 18 points 3 months ago

I have Sicilian relatives who would debate that.

[-] Damage@feddit.it 21 points 3 months ago

That goes for pretty much anywhere in Italy

[-] Cort@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

That they wouldn't want to be called Italian, or that that would debate you?

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[-] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

France also borders the Mediterranean, so I don’t think you know what you’re talking about

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[-] UnsavoryMollusk@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago
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[-] SparrowHawk@feddit.it 43 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Am from Italy, italians are the whitest of the whites. Rome, the church, the basis of modern Patriarchy and white supremacy was born and raised here folks

[-] iagomago@feddit.it 15 points 3 months ago

I'm from Italy as well. I always like to remember a quote from Charles Mingus, who at some point in his career had an entire black band with the exception of his sax player, Charlie Mariano. When asked about it, he answered something along of the lines of "He's not white, he's Italian."

[-] SparrowHawk@feddit.it 22 points 3 months ago

Maybe the social meaning of ethnicity is really relative to the racist empires they're situated in and not on some sort of inherent value

[-] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

yea, its because the Italians (and Irish, Chinese, etc as well) generally came to America later and were poorer than the British/French/Germans etc were, so they were often discriminated against (plus the mafia thing, but that also generally comes from being poorer)

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 months ago

the basis of modern Patriarchy

So pagans weren’t white?

white supremacy was born

The Norse?

What a weird definition you use

[-] SparrowHawk@feddit.it 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

What I meant is simply that the roman empire and the Catholic church forged ideological colonial basis of today, not that racism didn't exist before

Also I meant Patriarchy as an overarching colonial institution, not as an isolated cultural concept. The world wasn't always universally like this, there are many examples of non (or less) patriarchal societies throughout history, and we don't know enough about prehistory to make any definitive judgement on humanity

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[-] UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev 6 points 3 months ago

white supremacy was born

The Norse?

Where in the world does that come from?

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[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 7 points 3 months ago

That's great and all, but it means nothing to race theorists.

[-] SparrowHawk@feddit.it 4 points 3 months ago

I don't know what you define as that demographic, but what I said is just the truth. The culture in Italy is very mixed and different between regions, but racism, both cultural and structural, is rampant, even between Italians of the north and south

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[-] S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 3 months ago

I'm latino and I still do not understand how the fuck you man manage to live always looking at whiteness. Such an hysteria with the skin color.

[-] FilthyHookerSpit@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

Latinos also act prejudiced to those darker than them

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[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Well obviously you can't always look at the black ones, they disappear in the shadows. /joke

[-] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago

This took me too long to understand. Basically saying how Luigi is treated will determine if Italians are considered white. If he is treated with respect and not beaten while in custody Italians are confirmed as white people.

[-] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 months ago

Thank you. I'm slow.

[-] peteypete420@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 months ago

Well I actually laughed aloud at this on the train. I'm pretty much generic white looking, but have wondered if my resume ever got treated differently for the very Italian last name.

[-] SoleInvictus 14 points 3 months ago

I have a very Italian full name and definitely got treated differently when I was younger. Growing up in a rural area, many of my teachers would ask me to translate Spanish for them. Oh boy.

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[-] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 months ago

they're trying to make him sound insane by referring to his manifesto with vague and scary language so I think we got our answer

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 months ago

It's so ridiculous, too. As far as I can tell, he was arrested, because his clothes looked superficially similar to the person who shot the CEO, but if you spend five seconds comparing the security camera images, it's pretty obvious that none of the clothing items actually match. If they hole him up based on this evidence, that's embarrassing.

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[-] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 months ago

im italian and dont consider myself white

[-] robocall@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Do you consider yourself a POC?

[-] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 months ago

i dont know? i mean my skin isn't white. i have a darker shade complexion than a "white" person. somewhat similar to someone from a med/middle eastern country.

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[-] nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

I'm not white or Italian, I just like to complain on YouTube videos where a non Italian makes inauthentic Italian food.

Makes me feel like a real ally who is standing up for something.

[-] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I like to complain on YouTube videos where an Italian makes food with tomatoes and calls it authentic Italian food because tomatoes are Mexican. Get on my level.

So you heard it here, folks. Pizza is not Italian.

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[-] pyre@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

he's not just Italian, he's so Italian that he was named the way jowling kowling rowling would name a token Italian character in harry potter

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 9 points 3 months ago

I mean, he is on the sworthy side.

[-] SurfinBird@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago

Sexiness gets its own weighted score

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