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[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 months ago

the basis of modern Patriarchy

So pagans weren’t white?

white supremacy was born

The Norse?

What a weird definition you use

[-] SparrowHawk@feddit.it 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

What I meant is simply that the roman empire and the Catholic church forged ideological colonial basis of today, not that racism didn't exist before

Also I meant Patriarchy as an overarching colonial institution, not as an isolated cultural concept. The world wasn't always universally like this, there are many examples of non (or less) patriarchal societies throughout history, and we don't know enough about prehistory to make any definitive judgement on humanity

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

What I meant is simply that the roman empire and the Catholic church forged ideological colonial basis of today, not that racism didn’t exist before

True but that doesn’t fit with your argument as a precondition to being white

[-] SparrowHawk@feddit.it 1 points 3 months ago

Whiteness as we know it was mad there

[-] UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev 6 points 3 months ago

white supremacy was born

The Norse?

Where in the world does that come from?

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago

Norse are the Scandinavians

I would say Northern Germanic but it might cause confusion with the country

[-] UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev 7 points 3 months ago

I meant the accusation that white supremacy was "born" in the nordics.

Maybe I misinterpreted what you meant?

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago

That’s where pale white people come from, they killed dark white people across Europe as they spread

[-] UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev 12 points 3 months ago

I honestly can't tell if you're trolling or just saying completely baseless stuff.

Viking raiders didn't care about the colour of your skin, not to mention the English are visually just as light in tone. Saying it's the root of white supremacy is baseless.

[-] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

British.

Edit; Im curious as to why this is getting downvoted.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The Normans replaced the Britons who were darker

The Welsh are the only dark people left on the Isles and even they aren’t homogeneous in that anymore

[-] roguetrick@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I can't even tell if you're talking about Brittany or England. The Normans pushed out the Celtic bretons in Brittany but that has nothing to do with the isles where the West Germanic angles and Saxons pushed out the native Celtics. There the Normans just came up to rule.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

England

Britain is because Rome called the people that lived there Britons

Predating Brittany

[-] roguetrick@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Then the Normans did not replace anybody in England other than rulers. The angles already did that, thus "angle land." The Normans pushed out the bretons in Brittany, or northern France.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

You’re right, it was the Angles

[-] roguetrick@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

And the one thing to keep in mind with those tribes is many of them were actually mixed with lineages from the celts themselves because the britons were actively migrating down to armorica and the Iberian peninsula https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armorica

[-] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 3 points 3 months ago

That’s where pale white people come from, they killed dark white people across Europe as they spread

I think they were equal opportunity killers.

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