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she's said they don't exist at all, at one point, her take basically being "every femboy is an egg waiting to hatch" or we're trans in denial. Which like, I can get how she could come to that conclusion, but I also feel like she should appreciate that her experience doesn't match everyones.
She's also said stuff like "you aren't really a femboy if you don't shave your legs," which I recognize is a shitty take even if I also share it.
I would say that it's insanely hypocritical for someone in F1nn5ter's position to embrace egg culture with open arms because they've almost certainly experienced the uglier aspects of persistent misgendering and harassment from egg culture.
So I don't think them being ignorant is a good excuse for this because they've definitely experienced it, and likely continue to experience it. Since Egg culture is binary targeted it also negatively effects NonBinary people as well. The idea that egg culture and associated misgendering and attacks are perpetrated by ignorant and well meaning people who have just come out only works if you haven't experienced how bad it is for yourself.
I think it's likely that they say things like this for the purpose of being hurtful for attention. F1nn knows that people have negative feelings towards the "haha egg" rhetoric and probably knows a good part of why as well. They also know that if they go live while doing makeup to talk about why being a GNC boy is impossible because "wearing a skirt and makeup makes you a girl" will get then lots of attention.
I personally got the feeling that they invalidated femboys because that's what she genuinely believed, which made it more sad than anything. I still don't know of anybody with a more documented story, as most eggs didn't center their eggdom in their content in quite the same way. Most trans creators had more private journeys, expressing more fem over time, but not focusing on their self exploration. Most cis femboy creators don't set donation goals to lock their boy clothes in a box; it's about fun expression more than reshaping their entire lives. F1NN5TER just couldn't understand/accept that she was an outlier amongst both internet femboys and trans people who cracked while public figures.
They were kinda naive about how other people viewed gender in general, thinking that gender expression and transition would become common and accepted within the next ten years. I guess you have to be that dense to be the sort of egg that she was. They probably underestimated just how much hate awaited her after coming out, and that's probably why they handled things so badly back then.
However, the more recent race-baiting and ragebaiting transphobes? Definitely calculated moves to get donations on her OnlyFans. This is a person who sold micro transactions to kids on affiliated Minecraft servers; morally questionable business strategies are nothing new.
Yeah the only content creator I can think of that came close is contrapoints. And that feels different, it was a much more traditional "haha see how transgressive I am for regularly crossdressing in videos". And it was right around the mainstreaming of trans people.
You can compare her to say PhilosophyTube who did what's much more common, of starting transitioning off camera, not really showing anything of it except making a point to be a good ally in the early questioning stage, then coming out when she was ready.
I never got to see pre-transition Contrapoints, as she had already scrubbed her channel by the time I found her, and I never cared enough to try and seek out something she clearly didn't want others to see. However, from the vibe I got, she seemed like someone who just barely escaped 4trans before 4trans became big. She is, at her heart, an edgelord who revels in controversy, so it does make sense that she had an egg phase.
You are right about PhilosophyTube, as by the time it was already obvious that something was up, she was already deep into her transition. Most other already famous creators did it like her, discovering themselves behind the scenes and only being visible in a closeted state rather than an egg state. F1NN5TER was a genuine egg who became so ingrained in the culture that some people still haven't received the memo about her cracking. I've never seen anything like it.
Yeah tbph her content had a massive boost in quality right arounf where the video cull happened, so you aren't missing much. Mostly just an egg dressed for rocky horror bowing to a shrine of Anita Sarkeesian if I remember correctly. And yeah her public persona had a lot of /tttt/ energy and she had been on there, but it hadn't consolidated on 4chan yet back then. She's always seemed to struggle with the push and pull of her own self consciousness and self esteem issues vs her philosophy focused brain that just thinks if everyone can talk things out with an open mind everything will be better, and being queen edgelord is how it manifests when she's not being healthy about it (hence her describing twitter as more addictive than heroin having been addicted to both)
I think it's also important to acknowledge how shortly after coming out she brutally lost an online debate to Blaire White, an experience I don't think she's ever rhetorically or philosophically recovered from. It taught her the raw shallow value of rhetoric and aesthetic over ideas. I suspect it contributed to her becoming the anti cringe, convincing herself she's straight, very model of what /tttt/ thinks the ideal trans woman to be. The post "shame" era seems to involve a lot of her working on all that to varying degrees and regularly falling back to trolling. Fundamentally her public persona is messy and so of course her relationship with her gender on screen was going to be messy from the beginning honestly up until the past few years.
PhilosophyTube I think is a great contrast to contra. Her pre transition videos remain excellent and while her production quality has improved as she's transitioned she's talked about it being partly her healing from an abusive relationship. Unlike contra I'd feel sad if she were to delete her pre transition videos (and I highly doubt she ever would) in part because she was hitting pretty hard in them. While she's been very open about her mental health issues as well you don't really see them unless she's told you where to look.
But yeah anyways that was long and largely tangential. I swear I'm too young to go on these old lady rants about how things have changed over the years. There are a few other trans artists I can point to who had things that in retrospect were signs like Suzie Orman's fashion tastes (but it was only a sign because something was there) or some of Laura Jane Grace's pre transition songs (yeah it's proof of a different time that nobody was saying anything about "The Ocean" until she came out). But F1NN5TER and Contrapoints kinda seem to stand alone in how overt and public their egg phases were.
Idk, while I obviously try to appreciate everyone's experiences and don't like making broad statements, it can be hard to not feel that way when literally every femboy I've met eventually transitioned, myself included...
That's not to say it's a great take, but it's definitely understandable why people would feel that way. Especially since for me personally, it was very much a coping mechanism for being trans.
Again not trying to invalidate anyone's experiences, just kinda venting my own personal thoughts/feelings on the matter.