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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 196 points 8 months ago

Why not call for a full Russian withdrawl instead? Why should the defenders of their homeland be the ones to surrender?

The fact that a former Superpower was not able to roll Ukraine in the first 10 days, 100 days, what is it now? 745 days... yeah. It's time for Russia to get out.

[-] rayyy@lemmy.world 150 points 8 months ago

Pope is really out of touch on this.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 91 points 8 months ago

That’s the polite way of putting it.

Pretty sure anyone with half a brain and not straight up owned by Putin realizes that surrender is not an option- it just lets them regroup for another push in 5-10 years.

So. The pope either has the intellectual capacity of a petrified vegetable or is now shilling for Putin.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

With modern society, yeah.

But no one hates every other Abrhamic religion more than the leader of one them.

And Islam is the biggest one. Judaism isn't a threat to replace any form of Christianity, they don't have the numbers.

But there's about the same amount of Christians and Muslims in the world. For about 1300 years Christian leaders have been trying to stop Islam from becoming the majority.

That's the most important thing in Abrhamic religions: doing what it takes to be the majority.

The Bible even says if a family member ever doubts Jesus, you're to kill them immediately to prevent them from convincing others.

Which is a throw back to a schizophrenic guy named Abraham killing his family because they doubted the voices Abraham heard in his head.

All this shit traces back to some random crazy guy that demanded his family do exactly what he says without question. It's like the one part that never changes

[-] nixcamic@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The Bible even says if a family member ever doubts Jesus, you're to kill them immediately to prevent them from convincing others.

Which is a throw back to a schizophrenic guy named Abraham killing his family because they doubted the voices Abraham heard in his head.

I'm gonna request citations on these two.

[-] doublejay1999@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

Pass the popcorn mate, we could be a while.

[-] orphiebaby@lemm.ee 6 points 8 months ago

Wow, I'm usually criticizing people for saying they read the Bible when they clearly didn't, but this is the most blatantly, absurdly untrue one that I can remember.

[-] nixcamic@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

And like, it's not like there isn't some weird shit in the Bible, or valid critiques of Abrahamic religions, but did this bro go for any of that? Nah, better to just make stuff up. Which is kinda ironic....

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[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 20 points 8 months ago

But no one hates every other Abrhamic religion more than the leader of one them.

Wow. I'm an atheist and even I know that religious leaders tend to be extremely respectful of other faiths. They respect the holding of faith, even if it's not the one that they personally hold. They've spent their lives studying their religion and often find the history and relationships between different faiths fascinating.

Personally I think they're just studying myths, and it's no more productive than somebody studying Milton.

[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 101 points 8 months ago

Dear Pope: Direct your fucking comments to the guy who is invading Ukraine. Thanks.

[-] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 95 points 8 months ago

Pope Francis really all over the board with political beliefs, the dude went from liberal ally gay marriage officiator to conservative facebooker in record time.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 54 points 8 months ago

Someone called it a precise combination of statements designed to piss off everyone while not actually helping anything and I've got to agree.

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[-] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 93 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

So fucking naive. Dude really thinks the Ruskis will stop committing atrocities when the Ukrainians surrender.

[-] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 75 points 8 months ago

A surrender would be invitation for the atrocities to truly begin.

[-] ZILtoid1991@kbin.social 33 points 8 months ago

Knowing what the Russian government truly are, the best outcome for Ukrainians in that case is a cultural genocide, with Ukrainian being banned and they'll be forced to learn Russian. This is already the case of territories currently or formerly under occupation.

[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

That fucktard believes the earth is 5000 years old.

[-] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

That's a Protestant thing, not a Catholic thing.

[-] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Let's not forget the last time Ukraine surrendered to Russia, they had 10% of their population genocided in return.

[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 82 points 8 months ago

I kick in your front door and kill two of your kids. I then plant mines at the entrances to your living room and kitchen, eat all the food from the refrigerator and shoot at you if you try to come downstairs. You need to end this aggression, it's unseemly and it's getting people hurt. Just cede the living room and the kitchen, you wouldn't want to escalate things. Also I can't help but notice that your basement and upstairs bathroom are looking pretty liberateable.

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[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 59 points 8 months ago

“Leader of a child sex abuse cult says stupid shit.”

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 59 points 8 months ago

Tell you what popeman, how about you get rid of all the kid rapists in your organization before you give anyone else advice on anything... Ever.

[-] anarchy79@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

And the hat. The hat's gotta go.

[-] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 52 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

had used the term white flag “to indicate a cessation of hostilities, a truce reached with the courage of negotiation”. He repeated the pontiff’s call for a “diplomatic solution in search of a just and lasting peace”

That's kinda hard when Russia bombs humanitary corridors, ceasefire equals rearm and regroup and nothing else, and the last diplomatic solution was used as toilet paper to start the current war.

[-] Nudding@lemmy.world 50 points 8 months ago

Leader of single largest pedophile ring in history thinks X.

This Is how they should report on this piece of shit every time he opens up his cocksucker.

[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 46 points 8 months ago

Russian state TV host Vladimir Solovyov berated Pope Francis for "sticking his nose where it does not belong" and suggesting negotiations. Solovyov said that Russia has no interest in negotiations and does not recognize the Pope as a spiritual leader....so I guess the pope should wave the white flag...

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[-] Stamets@lemmy.world 44 points 8 months ago

When the Pope allows all sexual abusers in the Faith be prosecuted and held accountable for their disgusting and morally evil crimes then maybe I'll give a fuck what he has to say about anything. Out of touch old man doesn't get to protect kiddy fiddlers and then try and preach to others.

[-] avater@lemmy.world 39 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Fuck the pope. Glad that I already exited the Catholic Church a few years ago...

[-] theherk@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago

Exited? Or were you just a youngin at the time?

[-] Twitches@lemm.ee 10 points 8 months ago

Most little boys seen to excite the Catholic Church

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[-] Aleric@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

I too was an altar boy, exciting the Catholic Church

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[-] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 29 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Isn’t religion suffering from people leaving and no new blood entering for growth? Maybe the Catholic Church can wave the white flag?

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[-] Fapper_McFapper@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Fuck the pope, I mean, pedophile pimp.

[-] ZILtoid1991@kbin.social 9 points 8 months ago

Maybe his ring would get a lot of Ukrainian kids human trafficked to them in case of a Russian victory.

[-] PanArab@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago

I didn’t know that the Pope was a tankie!

[-] maculata@aussie.zone 26 points 8 months ago

What an arsehole .

[-] profdc9@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago

The Ukrainians should capitulate like the Franks at Poitiers or the Venetians at the Battle of Lepanto, or the Austrians at the Battle of Vienna. Perhaps if the Ukranians were Catholic, the Pope might support their resistance more.

[-] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago

"Could you please stop defending yourself. And let it happen." - Some guy who likes to cover up child abuse

[-] puchaczyk 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

First scaremongering people about "gender ideology", and now shilling for Russia. Is Pope doing some sort of mask off?

[-] khannie@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

Fuck that pope.

[-] esc27@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

I don't like it, but this might be the most actual Christian approach. Jesus preached a lot of pacifism...

But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.

[-] ElcaineVolta@kbin.social 29 points 8 months ago

what's so fun about the bible is that you can find a quote saying just about anything you like, assuming there even was a jesus, he's also quoted in matthew as:

"Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword."

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[-] yesman@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

Jesus the pacifist everybody:

Hosea 13:16 - Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.

Deuteronomy 2:34 - And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain:

Deuteronomy 20:16-17 - But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth

Isaiah 14:21 - Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.

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[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 7 points 8 months ago

I mean I don't agree with him but he is sticking to his beliefs here. Something something turn the other cheek.

[-] Gork@lemm.ee 7 points 8 months ago

I would have expected Patriarch Kirill to say something like this. But the Pope? Not so much.

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[-] Resol@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Let's just take that white flag, add a blue stripe in the middle, and give it to the Russians to raise.

Oh wait, they would go to jail. Well let's help them make the upcoming elections actually fair for once.

Oh wait, that would be the 2020 Belarusian protests all over again. Well let's just simply wait until we get a new Pope. Surely it can't take too long.

[-] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago
[-] anarchy79@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Pax vobiscum.

[-] BaronOfHair@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Let's take bets: How long before The President of Ukraine issues the following public statement: "Pope Francis... We Ukranians have heard your suggestion, and propose a trade. We'll raise our white flag to Russia, when every last one of your priests permanently lays off the boy raping, and all your nuns start diddling each other, instead of all those little girls who've ended up in their clutches"

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Son of a bitch is getting cocky after taking over the US Supreme Court

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