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Hey, German here. What the f*** are Americans doing at the other side of the Atlantic? Some of you already know this monstrosity. I did'nt. This is a Ford F650 Truck and when I stepped out of my Youtube Bubble I realized, it was marketed as the "biggest, baddest Truck on the road" for the everyday American. Are you guys serious?! Is the end goal really to drive a Monster Truck to McDs to get a McFlurry? Americas bloodiest wars have been fought in the middle east to secure oil, bombing nations to rubble. And all, for this bullshit? The excess, waste and decadence is mind boggling to me and people on Reddit seriously justifying this by "you know dude I'm 6,4ft. I don't fit in any other vehicle" makes me go up the wall.

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[-] rustydomino@lemmy.world 243 points 1 year ago

If you want to be even more outraged by American stupidity, look up “rolling coal”. In short, morons buy large trucks like this and purposely detune their emissions systems to run poorly, decreasing fuel efficiency and spewing soot laden exhaust. The only purpose to do this is to piss off liberals, apparently.

[-] SamVergeudetZeit@feddit.de 144 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You're joking? Oh my,... you're not.

[-] BadEngineering@kbin.social 42 points 1 year ago

Sadly they are not, the people that do it are the worst kind of asshole. They generally like to "roll coal" while passing electric or hybrid cars, covering them with soot. The spend thousands of dollars to be as obnoxious and wasteful as possible, all to spite "the liberals".

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[-] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 150 points 1 year ago

You know this is by no means a common vehicle right? I’ve never seen one outside of a few pictures only found on anti-car posts. F350s are even rare to see on the roads, F150s are more common than grass and F250s are a daily sight unfortunately.

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 73 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This isn't even a 350

This is a heavily modified F650(750?). They took a commercial truck and slapped a pickup truck body on it. It's comically useless, and costs 150 thousand dollars.

Here's a video where a guy reviews it.

https://youtu.be/JrHDeSMvnt4?si=bNlcS9prXg3J_Q0W

[-] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

150k is about how much you'll pay for a RAM here in Australia - and dickheads are still buying them.

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[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 146 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is a really braindead and disingenuous take. The F650 is a commercial vehicle. Attempting to pretend that "Americans" drive these is moronic, because the number of private citizens who drive one of these as a personal vehicle is probably in the triple digits in a country with a population of 332,000,000.

I know it's fasionable to farm for upvotes these days by blaring AMERICANS BIG TRUCKS BAD. But no one is "driving these to McD's to get a McFlurry." Very, very few people own one of these just to be "decadent."

You may as well get on your high horse about Americans driving big rigs all the time while you're at it. Because they totally do!!!!! (It's true!) Ones who are truck drivers, you know, delivering the goods you rely on every day.

On the very outside edge of the graph, there are probably a few outliers who own one of these to tow something enormous: A big horse trailer or a box trailer with their airplane in it or something. I have never seen one of these on the road that wasn't an actual commercial vehicle like a tow truck or similar.

The problem with obviously ridiculous whinging like this is that it dilutes the actual useful message, which is that America's transportation infrastructure is fucked up, and our reliance on fossil fuels (not just trucks) is Too Damn High.

Yeah these communities should be "we are all victims of car dominated society and infrastructure: here is the problem and here are some solutions" but instead they're just people who have never set foot in North America getting triggered by vehicles 90% of the population isn't even aware that it even exists.

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[-] DogWater@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Seriously bro. You nailed it. I've seen f 450 and f 550s on the road that do exactly what your talking about. It's honestly common. But they are all commercial trucks. have never seen an f 650 besides on the internet, if I have it's commercial and not in cab form.

The point stands with actual consumer trucks, there's no need to cherry pick this truck and look like a clown.

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[-] frezik@midwest.social 121 points 1 year ago

The F650 is a commercial vehicle. You can't buy one from Ford without a commercial account with them. You need a CDL to drive it. They're uncommon to see, and when you do, they're invariably used to do actual work.

No, they're not used just to drive to McDonald's.

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[-] grue@lemmy.world 104 points 1 year ago
[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

People prefer to jerk themselves off instead of having genuine and difficult discussion. Actual improvements require compromise and accepting your position doesn't work as an absolute. And who wants to do that when you can just demonize the other side instead to feel good about yourself?

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 85 points 1 year ago

The year is 2068. Everyone takes the bus to work. Their own personal bus.

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[-] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 83 points 1 year ago

These are novelty vehicles for the ultra wealthy. "Normal" pickups are already comically large and ripe for mockery, no need to hyperbolize

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[-] crashoverride@lemmy.world 78 points 1 year ago

Ok, see to put thin in context a little bit, this truck is not for, nor is it even marketed towards regular people. This is a modular truck, so this is going to be converted into ambulances, tow trucks, bucket trucks, etc. This one does have a bed on it, but they had to get one from like an F-350 and modify it to get it to fit. And while you can buy this truck, it's not really a thing on roads here.

[-] Dettweiler42@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago

Just to add to this, and affirm that it's not intended to be a "go to McDonald's" truck, here is the actual product page for this model where it is marketed as a commercial vehicle.

https://www.ford.com/commercial-trucks/f650-f750/

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[-] toff@feddit.de 26 points 1 year ago

Btw... German car companies built those monstrosities...

The Unimog U500 was more or less just a marketing gag, but the G63 was a real thing...

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[-] Confused_Emus@lemmy.world 73 points 1 year ago

Do you just search the internet for vague American shit to get mad about? Been all over this country and I’ve never seen one of these outside commercial use.

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[-] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago

I’m not defending the truck or America but I don’t think that one is common outside of industry. I live in the South and have never seen one. F150’s are very common, you see F250’s here and there, and F350s are basically exclusively work trucks. I didn’t even know it went up to F650 (the F750 apparently exists but seems like it’s really only for industry).

Ford’s web site has them “starting at” $80k but without a bed or any consumer features. It seems like they’re more the base for order things like fleets of tow trucks or dump trucks. I’m sure a mega rich person can buy one but it’s probably a weird custom thing that costs $200,000 and is missing whatever creature comforts go into vanity trucks.

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[-] uriel238 56 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Can confirm, the United States has lost it's mind. And yes, you have it down. The US goes abroad to secure resources for capitalist industry and has been promoting upsell and excess for some time now. Verhoeven's satirical advertising blurbs in Robocop (1987) were right on the mark.

Making us stupid and wanting to spend our money on $200 K-Pop bobble heads is exactly the world our corporations strive for, and the means to regulate them by a public-serving government was gutted in the 1980s by the Reagan administration. George W. Bush and Donald Trump (and the minimal pushback during the Clinton and Obama eras) are the natural result.

And in the next two decades you might get to see how the US does civil war and fascism. Every election lost by a Republican is challenged for legitimacy in an effort to neuter elections and create an autocratic one-party regime. Hopefully, this kind of shenanigan should sound dangerously familiar.

You got it right in one. We are out of our fucking minds, no small part to some willful efforts to turn the people of the US into mindless obedient consumers, but an epidemic of intergenerational mental illness has also contributed to Florida-Man-like conduct and truckers re-configuring their cars to belch soot as rolling coal.

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[-] Glifted@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago

I work in the US auto industry. I'm not happy about this shit either.

Also, F650 is a rare vehicle so it really isn't a good one to be mad about. F150's and F250's are everywhere though

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[-] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

This isn't really something you see on US roads, unless you replace the bed with a flatbed or box. No normal person owns one of these as a pickup truck.

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[-] Kase@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

American here. I've never seen this truck before. 🤷

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[-] bearfootbees@lemmy.ca 44 points 1 year ago

I'm 6'4, 250 lbs. Canadian

I drive an 02 golf. Before this, a Toyota 4runner (1st gen).

I'm not trying to brag... But I think it's not a "I'm too big for anything smaller" it's a "I'm too insecure for anything smaller", aka "my dick is too small for anything smaller" syndrome.

I've recently made friends with a group of Germans who have come to Canada. I'm astonished by the practicality and industriousness I've noticed in contrast to the idiocy of most Canadians. I'm not saying you don't have any idiots in Germany. I'm just saying culturally, there seem to be some big differences.

Remember, don't let the dumbest of the world ruin your happiness.

Prost

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[-] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

the biggest baddest truck

They certainly know their target audience: 6 year olds

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[-] wrath_of_grunge@kbin.social 41 points 1 year ago

i live in the south, you never see these things in real life, and i'm deep in truck country.

these things are comically impractical. like you couldn't pull into a parking garage, or much of anything with this. you'd be parking and walking to wherever you were trying to go. they would likely hit the limit sign and overhang on a typical McDonald's.

the much more common trucks would be F150/250's.

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[-] rsuri@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

This size of truck isn't common. Coal rolling is both far more egregious and common than this.

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[-] nbailey@lemmy.ca 40 points 1 year ago

Can you name the truck with four wheel drive, smells like steak and seats thirty five?

Canyonero!

12 yards long, two lanes wide, 65 tones of American Pride!

Canyonero!!!

https://youtu.be/PI_Jl5WFQkA?si=Ly_7PhJ2IOzFXTDB

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[-] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

You can say "fucking" here. It's in the name. 😘

[-] yokonzo@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

Also can we stop blaming the average american for the shit corperations or the government is doing? We don't like it either, they don't listen to us

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[-] Snapz@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago
  1. Agree this is a stupid vehicle
  2. To everyone outside the US, I don't believe I've ever actually seen one of these on the road. FWIW, I've lived in two US states and traveled the whole country regularly for work.

The unofficial tagline for these things is, "if you weren't born with a BIG something... Why not buy a BIG something? That'll show em all..."

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[-] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

Is the end goal really to drive a Monster Truck to McDs to get a McFlurry?

The end goal is to drive a Monster Truck right OVER THE FUCKING TOP OF McDs HELL YEAH BROTHA CAN I GET AN AMEN WITH A SIDE OF FRIES?!?!?!!

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[-] Toneswirly@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You're Wrong. We don't get a McFlurry; the machine is almost always broken due to fucked up patent law and corporate greed. Merica.

[-] menemen@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

Nowadays normal people are driving cars meant for psychopaths. Real psychopaths have to one up this. It is just natural.

[-] Robcia1220@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

Most people in these comments act like we just have car lots full of trucks just like this ready to be sold to the regular consumer. Just a couple searches on the internet or simply reading other comments in this thread will tell you that we don’t. To get something like this you’re paying well over $100,000 and you would have to specifically ask to have this set up. That’s if they even do it at a factory. This could very well be aftermarket. Trucks this size are meant for commercial use and are purchased with just the cab and open frame. After the purchase they would be delivered to whatever facility needed to outfit it for its specific purpose whether it’s a tow truck, electric service, waste management. Etc. Just because 1 douchebag decided to kit one these out as an oversized pickup and some YouTuber decides to market like “biggest and baddest” is a good thing doesn’t mean that everyone here is doing it. Like calm down. Most of us don’t like it either.

Look at it this way. Technically this isn’t the biggest and baddest for any everyday citizen of any nation. You could have a semi with a sleeper cab. Something like that would be massive for the everyday person, and for everyday use it wouldn’t be bad, it would be horrendous!

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[-] capital@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

Lived in the US my entire life. Never seen one of these in person once.

Chill.

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[-] captainchaos47@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

As an American, I agree, shit is ridiculous. I'd say about 80% of these big ass trucks on the road aren't even being used as trucks.

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[-] RavenFellBlade@startrek.website 27 points 1 year ago

I drive a Ford F-550 every day. To drive 20 special needs people to work and back. Because it's a bus.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

And then the owner bitches about fuel prices.

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[-] WaxiestSteam69@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

These exist but are very rare. This is a commercial truck meant for things like small dump beds, bucket trucks, etc. There are a few shops that specialize in doing these types of custom builds for people who have way too much money and too little sense. There is a shop in my town that does this sort of work and they have something like this as a promotional tool but kost if their customers don't get anything this extreme.

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[-] qevlarr@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

I read this article recently, which describes this sort of ridiculous behavior perfectly. "Oh, we can't drive big gas guzzling children killing trucks? I'm gonna buy an even bigger one! How about that?" These people are behaving like children being taught they can't have everything, and they're having a big tantrum about it.

https://www.okdoomer.io/its-an-extinction-burst/

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[-] Lyricism6055@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

I'm 6'5" and I don't fit in any of this garbage. These trucks are built for short men with mental stability issues

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[-] art@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

This is a modified commercial truck. It's designed for heavy work, large construction, towing ridiculously large things, etc. Someone did custom work on it to make it look like a consumer vehicle.

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[-] Someology@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I promise, you're unlikely to see an "everyday American" driving an F650. There might be a literal handful of exceptions out there somewhere, but most people will only ever see this in industrial applications. Most often you'll see a 650 outfitted with a cargo bed or a (extra large, for towing big rigs) wrecker setup, or something large, robust, and industrial like that. This is just a publicity/marketing stunt. 99% of Ford F350 and larger trucks you will ever see will be industrial/cargo/heavy equipment moving/etc. industrial job vehicles. It's even relatively common to buy the truck, and buy the bed you need for your industrial application, custom. This is not something you'll see set up like a pickup truck in very many American driveways. The handful of those exceptions are the same sort of enthusiast niche that will hot rod customize to a ridiculous impractical degree a regular car, just to say they can. Very small group.

Reacting as if this is real is just as insane as thinking it's really common for somebody to trick out their excavator and drive it to McDonald's.

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