Libertarian Party scores biggest ever election win (www.newsweek.com)

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[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 66 points 10 months ago

The party, which was formed in 1971 and supports laissez-faire capitalism and civil liberties

lol, what is this, 2010? They haven’t been that way in a while

[-] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 10 months ago

Those just mean guns and drugs right?

They never figure out how roads or waste management happens after that though.

[-] awnery@lemmy.world 55 points 10 months ago

https://news.yahoo.com/630-000-mayor-lily-wu-105100107.html

libertarian who wants to increase the numbers of police... hmmm

[-] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 54 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

For a libertarian, that's ain't very libertarian like. Almost makes me think that they might be a different party but scared to label themselves said party.

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[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago

No, Conservatives are fascist conservatives. Libertarians are just conservatives who are too embarrassed to admit it.

[-] awnery@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

i'm not here to defend libertarians, but what you say is incorrect. libertarians would happily dispense with all the religion, and let in the corporate overlords.

[-] Zorque@kbin.social 8 points 10 months ago

Religion is mostly just an excuse to be an asshole, for most conservatives.

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[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 9 points 10 months ago

In my experience, they're not embarrassed, they're just plain confused. Their epistemology stops at the statement, "I don't want the government to tell me what to do," and the actual implementation of...well...anything just winds up being reactionary.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

I can at least abide a Libertarian since they don't want the govt to persecute minorities -- if they're actually libertarian and not just saying it, that is.

It's a sign of the times that my actual policy beliefs could not be further from Libertarian, but they're still an adjacent ally because they don't want to lock up LGBT people.

[-] spaceghoti@lemmy.one 5 points 10 months ago

When did Ron Paul stop being a racist?

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[-] batmaniam@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

There are sane libertarians. It was the first party to have same sex marriage as an explicit tent pole back in the 70s.

Libertarians aren't anarchists, laws and enforcement especially around an individuals rights are important, doubly so for any marginalized group. That's like... THE purpose of government to a libertarian. You'll also find plenty who are in favor of a strong social safety net.

All that being said, there's always been loons. People who think things like food safety inspections are an over reach and the like, but it's in the minority. The climate has definitely gotten worse though. I still describe myself as one but ehhhhh. It's just not as important to me as avoiding slipping into literal fascism.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Exactly, a true libertarian would be appalled by the government denying same sex marriage or abortion or adoption. Which says a lot about the people who claim to be libertarian.

[-] batmaniam@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Absolutely. I'll always admit that praxis of libertarianism is messy at best, because there isn't much that really is the business of an individual alone, but anything lgbtq really is that cut and dry.

Abortion is a tricky one for the reason it always has been: if someone genuinely believes a blastocyst is a human, then none of the other arguments are going to matter. I'm not one of those people, by the way. I think Buttigeg put it perfectly in the primaries. If science and philosophy can't nail down personhood without debate for people who are 30, that leaves someone in the position to choose a termination required, by active decision or default, to choose with imperfect data. Whatever they personally come to then is correct for them and people should receive only support and compassion.

I think you'd find more that support it, but I'm just saying that like always if someone is convinced of the "personhood" of that mass of cells there's not a belief system out there that's going to make it acceptable.

All that being said, I get the wrap. It's messy and scary out there right now.

[-] bluGill@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago

I'm a right wing liberal. Libertarians often represent me best, but I vote for who I think would get the best result.

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[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

There are actual libertarians, and there is the American Libertarian Party. There is almost nothing in common between the two.

Well, weed and some edge-case anti-vax bullshit… but almost nothing else.

[-] awnery@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

agreed, but the lower-case L libertarian stance is just Ayn Rand type shit. i had a buddy who went to objectivism conferences and that sort of thing, then he had kids and joined a union.

[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

In the US, yes. Elsewhere, libertarians are much more liberal. Here, they’re just often-stoned, fascist conservatives who hate paying their taxes more than the rest but without the courage to admit to the fascism part. It’s a façade.

As for you buddy, I’m glad he woke up. 👍🏻

[-] DemBoSain@midwest.social 44 points 10 months ago

Libertarians often mistake deregulation for freedom. However, I kind of like being able to buy food without worrying about deadly pathogens.

[-] Zorque@kbin.social 20 points 10 months ago

Hey now, that infringes on the rights of people who want to provide products as cheaply as possible and make a shit ton of money. How very selfish of you.

[-] rivermonster@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago

How dare you tell them they can't give heroine to a baby, that's government interference!

[-] MyPornViewingAccount@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago

Libertarians are just alt-republicans with a better working knowledge of local age-of-consent laws.

[-] Throbbing_Banjo@midwest.social 7 points 10 months ago

Lol holy shit

[-] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 3 points 10 months ago

I'm not sure which group you're calling pedos....

And not sure I want to know....

[-] TeoTwawki@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

The party, which was formed in 1971 and supports laissez-faire capitalism ~~and civil liberties,~~ is the third-largest American party by voter registration. Its website says: "Libertarians strongly oppose any government interference into their ~~personal, family, and~~ business decisions."

There I fixed the atticle to be truthful.

[-] kaiomai@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

The Libertarian Party doesn't even recognize her as a member. This article didn't dive very deep.

[-] TheJims@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

Being Libertarian means never having to admit you’re a Republican

[-] the_q@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Libertarian folks are just alt-publicans nowadays.

[-] SoylentBlake@lemm.ee 11 points 10 months ago

I'm still waiting for any libertarian to go ahead and tell me how deregulating the sewers is gonna work out for everyones best interests.

Anyday now, I'm sure. I've been asking this since 1996, I'm sure they'll get back to me soon.

[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago

Well, Wichita, hopefully you enjoyed basic services up til now. Libertarians don't like that stuff. You'll see.

[-] SoylentBlake@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

Nothing like bears taking out yr trash. Out of your house that yr also in. Libertarian-land is too hxc for me man.

[-] ForestOrca@kbin.social 7 points 10 months ago

Umm, "biggest ever" meaning mayor of Wichita, population 400,000. Biggest ever, since formation in 1971. "Since its creation, 10 Libertarians have been elected to state legislatures. The most recent candidate was Marshall A. Burt, who represented Wyoming's 39th district from 2021 to 2023." A total of 10, since 1971, sounds like they are really on the move. /s

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[-] dipshit@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

cool but we still need drivers licenses.

[-] GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network 4 points 10 months ago

Dog catcher?!

[-] spaceghoti@lemmy.one 3 points 10 months ago

Wasn't Jesse Ventura elected governor of Michigan as a Libertarian?

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Minnesota and it was the reform party.

Wasn’t our shining moment there

[-] BarrierWithAshes@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago

Wow. Surprising to see a third party win, especially with how polarized the two parties are right now.

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