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[-] mrmisses@lemmy.world 294 points 2 weeks ago

Nah fuck the usa corruption shit too. And the shit usa put visiting countries through

[-] otter@lemmy.ca 68 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I would have expected people to be more angry at the US's actions than Argentina's.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Trump%E2%80%93FIFA_red_card_controversy

During the 2026 World Cup, FIFA suspended the implementation of a one-game suspension that United States men's national soccer team player Folarin Balogun had received after he was sent off in a round of 32 match victory against the Bosnia and Herzegovina national team for a foul on Tarik Muharemović. Balogun's suspension was delayed for a probationary period of one year under the Article 27 authority of the FIFA Disciplinary Code. United States president Donald Trump had directly called FIFA president Gianni Infantino asking him to review the red card decision. The decision allowed Balogun to participate in the United States' Round of 16 match against Belgium despite the red card remaining in effect. Belgium won the match 4–1, with Balogun playing almost the entire match

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_2026_FIFA_World_Cup_controversies

Another controversy, similar to when the events were hosted in Russia and Qatar, involves host countries immigration policies. The controversy during the 2026 FIFA World Cup, United States immigration and visa policies under the second Trump administration, which have affected players, officials, journalists, and fans from several qualified nations. A travel ban affecting citizens of 39 countries—including World Cup participants Haiti, Iran, Ivory Coast, and Senegal—has prevented most ordinary fans from those countries from obtaining visas to attend matches in the United States, though exemptions were granted for athletes, coaches, and essential support staff, as well as dual citizens, permanent residents, and valid visa holders. A separate visa bond program initially required fans from five African nations to pay deposits of up to $15,000, a requirement that was temporarily suspended in May 2026 for ticketed fans. Iraqi striker Aymen Hussein was detained for seven hours upon arrival at O'Hare International Airport, while Somali referee Omar Artan was denied entry and was unable to officiate at the tournament.

[-] Foni@piefed.zip 33 points 2 weeks ago

I think it's because football fans have been dealing with this crap from Argentina basically ever. They are a dirty and underhanded team at all times, and that generates hatred from championship to championship.

[-] TheOctonaut@piefed.zip 15 points 2 weeks ago

I'm sorry but the way they played was the way everyone played 30 years ago. It's up to the referees, with more tools than ever, to implement the rules, and they did. Playing rough, or even playing negatively, are not against the rules or any less valid. It didn't work for them last night and yes for neutrals it's never as good, but this is sport not sports entertainment.

If everyone played exactly the same it would be boring. And as international transfers homogenise everything, we don't have Brazil playing jogo bonito, we don't have Ireland playing I-cant-believe-its-not-gaelic-football, we don't have Germans playing elaborate sweeper systems. At least Argentina are pretty much the same as they were when Maradona played, and Sivori before him - tough, ugly and liable to produce individual magic. They have an identity. I don't know why anyone is surprised at them retaining it, or it nearly being successful. Again.

There's a reason people watched Mike Tyson as much as they watched Muhammad Ali.

[-] Foni@piefed.zip 13 points 2 weeks ago

That is simply not true, no one has played like this, not 30 years ago or ever, things like this (https://imgur.com/nEfw1Tr) are not acceptable on a football field and never have been and things like this (https://imgur.com/tuvOdJ1) are not acceptable on a stadium and never have been.

There is no coordinated campaign against argentina either out of envy or strange unknown interests, It is an accumulation of years playing outside the rules, playing "roughly" does go against the rules, the rules are explicitly for that, scoring a goal with your hand is illegal and should embarrass whoever scores it if the referee does not realize it, It's not something about "smart people" it's something about cheaters and obviously the rest of us don't like anyone to win that way, I don't think it's anything surprising

[-] TheOctonaut@piefed.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The racism is disgusting and I happily cheered Spain to win because of that and other factors like Spain's support for Palestine. There is plenty of racism in Spanish football too but it is not overtly adopted by the squad itself.

Your first screenshot could be from any 80s Serie A game, any 90s Premier League game, any 00s League of Ireland game, and any game in South America yesterday. As someone who actually goes to football matches, what happens on the pitch frequently fails to make it to the screen. It's just unavoidably televised at the World Cup.

[-] Foni@piefed.zip 7 points 2 weeks ago

There are no examples of top-level teams doing anything similar; yes, there have been bad or mediocre teams doing things like that, but it's something that tournaments have been trying to curb for a long time, it's not something to boast about and take to the highest level, as Argentina has done so many times.

The same goes for racism; many Spanish fans chant nonsense believing it's justified in the stadium. The difference is that the press, institutions, and society are ashamed of it and try to shame those who do it, instead of justifying and defending it with things like "Well, it's just the game."

[-] db2@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Not "the USA", the government of it run by stupid psychotic criminals. Or do you think every Russian citizen living day to day on the edge is responsible for what Putin does too?

[-] felsiq@piefed.zip 7 points 2 weeks ago

I mean, did almost 50% of the voting population elect Putin twice? Cuz personally that’s where I draw the line for blaming the entire country vs just the government for the government’s actions.

Worth noting though, blaming the country doesn’t mean blaming every citizen like you’ve implied - obviously a lot of people have done everything they can and aren’t complicit in this, I just think when there’s better than even odds that a random American either didn’t vote or voted for trump that a few good apples don’t redeem the bunch.

[-] db2@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Eventually it's going to come out that the majority did not vote for Trump. Right now they're in charge so they're able to define the narrative enough. Remember when he said it doesn't matter what the popular vote is because he had all the votes he needed? This was before counting even began. Musk was also meddling with the voting systems, or more accurately people he was paying were because he's a low grade moron. It was not legitimate.

I strongly suspect that not only did Trump actually lose, it was by a very wide margin. It will come out eventually.

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[-] MapleFawn 60 points 2 weeks ago

Didn’t watch it at all, what did Argentina do?

[-] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 89 points 2 weeks ago

With the exception of Messi, they all played like petulant, dirty thugs all through the world cup. Especially against Egypt in their quarter-final and against Spain in the final. They also politicized the semi-final against England with a stupid banner.

[-] makefile@programming.dev 25 points 2 weeks ago

You can't say Messi isn't a thug when he is bribing the refs

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 19 points 2 weeks ago

I mean, if there's bribing going on there's no guarantee it's Messi doing it. Given his long career and the fact he's (as far as I hear; I don't watch football) the only one not playing like a thug, I'd say it's much more likely someone is bribing them for him.

[-] Ibisalt@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

fc barcelona was bribing the second powerfull man in spains referee organisation for 20 years+, got caught by the guardia civils financial division and they're still debating if there should be some sort of consequences. meanwhile most of the charges became time-barred.

[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 20 points 2 weeks ago

Messi was trying to get Cucurella red card. Cucurella was showing him that the other player was hit in the mouth and Messi started telling the referee that he covered his mouth to insult him. Was arguing that Cucurella should get red card for this. Incredibly desperate and pathetic.

[-] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Wow, that's shameful.

[-] MolochHorridus@piefed.social 13 points 2 weeks ago

Trump already politicised the whole event so who gives a fuck? FIFA is a corrupt organisation so just don’t support football played under that shit. Watch and support your local teams if you enjoy the sport.

[-] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 weeks ago

They also started a fistfight after they lost the final and turned their backs on Spain when they received the trophy.

Honestly, this team should be disqualified from the next world cup, but instead they're being celebrated.

[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 25 points 2 weeks ago

Argentinean fans being racist as usual.

[-] TwiddleTwaddle 21 points 2 weeks ago

The final wasn't a very good game. They didnt try to score at all in regulation and were clearly hoping to keep it at 0/0 to bring it to a shootout at the end.

[-] twinnie@feddit.uk 23 points 2 weeks ago

I think you missed a few things out.

[-] TwiddleTwaddle 13 points 2 weeks ago

Pure ignorance I'm sure. I know nothing about FIFA and little about Argentina, just watched the game yesterday and was disappointed that it was in no way competitive.

[-] anugeshtu@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Imho (not a huge football expert, nor enthousiast), it was quite competitive. Both teams were so active to give neither one the chance to score until in the last minutes they put all of their energy into it to surprise the other one. I know, that it can be seen as boring (I also kinda thought the same most of the time), but damn... the response to the opportunities where quite fast and saved most of the goals. But imo Spain had much better gameplay and opportunities. Shame of those offsides

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[-] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Can you enlighten us? I didn't watch the game either.

[-] twinnie@feddit.uk 24 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The whole competition they’ve been dragging the sport into the gutter. They’ve constantly been aggressively fouling as much as they can and they seem to have been getting away with so much there’s been a bit of a pattern. Lots of theories but I think FIFA saw this as an opportunity to break into the American market and wanted some drama, hence trying to get Messi into the finals for a dramatic finish. Early in the tournament Messi tackled someone and it should’ve been a red card but the ref didn’t even call the foul. The whole tournament for them has been overly aggressive tackles, pushing and shoving, shirt pulling, diving and general flouting of the rules and poor sportsmanship. It seemed like the ref in the final didn’t turn a blind eye quite so much and they finally got shown a red after literally hitting a player so hard he flipped upside down in the air.

Accusations of bias and terrible behaviour have folllowed them the whole tournament but they kind of became a talking point after they beat England and pulled out a flag saying that the Falklands are Argentinian which was a clear breach of the rules that says that political stuff isn’t allowed. Then it got really highlighted when they played Spain, who were disciplined and professional, against Argentina who were playing in their regular aggressive fashion, and the contrast just made Argentina look like a bunch of hooligans. Then when the game was over a substitute player ran onto the pitch to celebrate with the team and one of the Argentinian players punched him. The Spanish confronted him and the Argentinians escalated it multiple times.

in the end the Argentinians more or less became the baddies of the World Cup. This came the day after the Bronze game between England and France which was basically an example of excellent behaviour and sportsmanship (I don’t recall a single yellow card). After the match the teams congratulated each other and hung around on the pitch chatting and joking with each other.

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Also forgot to mention there’s a new rule where players aren’t allowed to cover their mouthes in an argument, in order to stamp out things like racism. If they do it’s an automatic red card. Messi tried to use it to get a Spanish player sent off for touching his mouth. It didn’t work but everyone saw Messi try it.

Edit

My English here was terrible. Unfortunately it is my first language; at least you know it’s not written by AI.

[-] shweddy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

I just saw memes but didnt an Argentinian player start a fight at the end? Or am I wrong?

[-] tyler@programming.dev 10 points 2 weeks ago

You watched a different game. Spain didn’t even let Argentina get the ball for the majority of the game.

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[-] k0e3@lemmy.ca 57 points 2 weeks ago

Fuck the US though. In fact, fuck the World Cup too.

[-] twinnie@feddit.uk 15 points 2 weeks ago

I’ve got no hate for the US team, it was Trump and Infantino.

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[-] Nadru@lemmy.world 52 points 2 weeks ago

Argentina hate is uniting the world

[-] toofpic@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

They really should play rugby with all that grabs and tackles

[-] marcos@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Fuck all the players that practice that "jump into the adversary's knee" move. From Argentina and from the other teams.

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[-] RidderSport@feddit.org 5 points 2 weeks ago

Don't forget about Paraguay they also played like absolute assholes

[-] Nadru@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Sending some hate their way

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[-] fodor@lemmy.zip 46 points 2 weeks ago

FIFA is so dirty. All they do is rob hosting cities blind and then accept bribes. That organization needs to collapse. Sports should be affordable to watch, and who caves to Trump twice in one year anyway?

[-] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I didn't watch, because of corrupt FIFA and Temu Hitler

[-] OwOarchist@pawb.social 23 points 2 weeks ago

Out of all these countries, the only one you have a problem with is Argentina?

[-] MrKoyun@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Not really the point of the image

[-] h_ramus@piefed.social 14 points 2 weeks ago

Why isn't Paraguay shunned anymore? They played like thugs against most teams, famously against France.

[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

I'm so glad the US didn't win like that with all the political bullshit. It would've looked like we cheated our way in had we progressed any further, once ol' shittypants waded in.

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.org 7 points 2 weeks ago
[-] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago

nah, I think it's pretty fucking embarassing for every country that took part in it. including my own.

[-] Instigate@aussie.zone 6 points 2 weeks ago
[-] fisch@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

As a non soccer fan, I don't get it. Why don't we like Argentina? Don't they have a pretty strong team?

[-] Jiral@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

They played incredibly dirty, fouled nonstop, deserved even more red cards than they got, at the same time they played super lame football, debated with the referee nonstop, were disrespectful to the winning team afterwards and physically assaulted a Spanish player after the game without any provication from the other side.

Rarily has a team in the finals misbehaved more than that.

[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

And on top of all of that, corrupt FIFA will look the other way and do nothing about it because they're currently the princesses of the football world. There's just too much money tied to sponsorships that depend on Argentinian stars, so FIFA will do everything in their power to keep the money flowing, even if that means tolerating a team that undermines sportsmanship and integrity. FIFA went through a corruption crisis in 2015 and learned absolutely nothing.

[-] ComfortableRaspberry@feddit.org 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I didn't watch it either but heard they started a (physical) fight after losing the game. That could be a reason

One of many sources

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[-] arcine@jlai.lu 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Argentina, Paraguay, and the USA ; should be banned from the next world cup.

In a world where FIFA isn't the second most corrupt organisation on earth, that is (second to the United States government).

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[-] lemmyng@piefed.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago

Fuck that shit, Qatar's behaviour in the match against Canada was deplorable.

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