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[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 38 points 4 weeks ago

Hello community, this thread is going in places a community shouldn't go. Remember to hate the argument, not the user. There are also people that said things on the fence that seemed to be making up arguments or trying to start arguments. I temp banned you.

I didn't catch them all, feel free to report if it bugs you. I'll take a look.

[-] peteypete420@sh.itjust.works 17 points 4 weeks ago

I appreciate the work you put into this. Thanks.

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[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 263 points 1 month ago

Maybe the dude was just... you know.

Poor.

Came from an environment that was usually a mess, chaotic, disordered, and he was genuienly impressed by how simple things, in order, can give a significant sense of safety and stability.

Maybe he'd never seen that before, maybe he had no model of a tidy and peaceful living space.

The same scenario could happen with anyone, of any sex or gender.

Man, broad societal levels of narcissism are just off the fucking charts these days... its the literal opposite of solidarity, of empathy.

[-] EggInDisguise 89 points 1 month ago

Growing up my house was always trashed. Parents with depression and full time jobs don't leave much time and energy for cleaning up, and there's only so much children without guidance can do.

So once I had my own defined space, it was basically minimalist to expedite cleaning. I didn't start getting more stuff, even clothes, until my partner moved in.

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 month ago

Me growing up, it wasn't quite that bad for myself, but some of my neighbors were from... way more fucked up families.

They had basically this exact same 'Wow.' moment, just... coming over, and seeing that... order was possible, things could be put basically back in place after use, etc.

They had no previous concept of it.

I remember going over to one of their houses once and literally stepping in dogshit, inside.

They just... forgot to let the dog out, I guess. Regularly enough that this was annoying but basically normal.

[-] EggInDisguise 27 points 1 month ago

Depression is a bitch, and that makes you not want to clean. Then the grossness makes you more depressed.

Never ending loop.

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[-] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 70 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Or maybe he was just being nice? I can't imagine being invited to friend's new house and not giving compliments unless im like worried about them moving into an unsafe situation.

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[-] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 156 points 1 month ago

I keep seeing this content that’s “men are so stupid and inferior and awful” and it’s grating on me.

Like, yes, there’s definitely a strong toxic subset of men, but most of use are just… normal?

I’m in my mid 30s, when the women aren’t around we’re mostly talking about kids (those who have them), hockey, finances, house stuff, and weird health issues. Depending on the group, how stupid politics/government shit is lately.

I don’t know. It feels like the toxicity that came for incels is coming at women hard these last few years. Reddit really pushes this stuff lately.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 119 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I keep seeing this content that’s “men are so stupid and inferior and awful” and it’s grating on me.

That's because it's troll bait. Just like all generations have a bigger than wanted set of shitty people. I don't feel like I can take this shit down because it's not breaking any rules. You all can help by not falling for the bait though.

[-] protist@retrofed.com 48 points 1 month ago

Definitely this. It circulates widely because it generates outrage, even though the number of people who actually believe this is miniscule. This is the same technique right-wing media uses

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 month ago

It might even be the same people. I suspect that, but don't have any proof.

[-] Town@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 month ago

Russia has repeatedly and explicitly said they are playing both sides of the US/Western political divide against each other in online rate campaigns.

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[-] Stanley_Pain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 month ago
[-] 0ops@piefed.zip 32 points 1 month ago

I hate to use that term though because I love femcel communities here on fediverse. They probably got the best memes in the verse.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

I still haven't figured put what the deal is with that place, and at this point I'm too afraid to ask.

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

It's really prevalent, but it's unfortunately hard to call out, especially irl.

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The thing no one wants to admit or say is that while the modern (MeToo and onward) feminist movement certainly has good intentions, its been broadly co opted into a kind of pop-feminism that's about as actually feminist as tik tok psychology advice is real psychology.

Its morphed into basically just a semi-formalized worldview of mystic misandry.

'Manifesting', the Patriarchy as essentially an evil spiritual or god-like entity or force, which everything else is oriented around and against... while simultaneously claiming that adherents need to 'de-center men' ... near total abandonment of any attempt to empathize with the 'other', active glee in demonizing them... whole bunch of 'creators' just vying to be the most bombastic mini cult leader...

Its even got a discernible dialect.

They believe dogmas. When you try to inquire as to the basis or validity of those dogmas... they attack.

You get a bunch of faux psychoanalysis of how you could possibly have ended up so broken as to question their... you know, idea that they can't or won't actually defend.

Its like a religious fundamentalist launching into a semi-canned apologia response.

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[-] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 105 points 1 month ago

Art on the wall? Rugs? I'm from Eastern Europe, best I can do is rugs on the wall

[-] scutiger@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago
[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 month ago

They can really tie a room together.

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[-] SnowmenMelt@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Rugs on the wall, art on the floor?

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[-] SayJess 89 points 1 month ago

Thanks! I’ve put a bit of work into the place lately

Pretty difficult to say, I know.

[-] EggInDisguise 31 points 1 month ago

But then we wouldn't have rage bait for engagement.

[-] Quexotic@infosec.pub 59 points 1 month ago

Rage bait is rage bait.

[-] NoTagBacks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 55 points 1 month ago

God, this shit pisses me off so fucking much because it's this bullshit-ass pop-philosophy that liberals have settled into that pushes away young men and perpetuates the patriarchal bullshit in the world. "tHeY'rE jUsT pUnChInG uP" NOBODY SHOULD BE PUNCHING ANYBODY. The problem is the fucking system, not who is doing the punching. Libs get so wrapped up in anything but the system that they make the problem worse. Like the popularization of the term "mansplaining". Oh neat, so now the problem women face about being seen as competent is about men. Because, of course, feminism didn't come about to improve the treatment of women, but to point out who the bad people are. The would you rather for women about running across a bear or a random man is about how man worse than bear, not that women feel so egregiously unsafe in their daily lives. Libs are so far up their own ass, they'd rather create another fucking problem than actually engage in being part of the solution. Libs will see one problem and be like "but what if it could be two problem?" Libs see women get mistreated for no reason then go "men should suffer, too", then pat themselves on the back because now everyone hates everyone, no matter the gender[bullshit-ass heart emojis].

Fuck the patriarchy.

[-] kibiz0r@midwest.social 18 points 1 month ago

They have to play men and women against each other. Or else they would have to explain how systemic patriarchy manages to self-replicate despite worsening the lives of nearly all of the people (of all genders) who suffer under it. And the answer to that is: capitalism. Which is not an acceptable answer for the donor class.

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You and I seem to have the same opinion about this.

Feminism has basically been co opted into a kind of psuedo liberal, privileged, socially acceptable because it calls itself feminism, form of misandry.

Like this OP image person would be the same person who would likely call a straight dude gay, as an insult, because he declined a second date with her.

Its wild because... like... these people are ostensibly 'liberal', they'll tell you they are, but they're actually not.

They believe in the concept of equal rights and opportunity, universally, for all... to the same the same extent that conservatives believe in Democracy or States Rights.

They don't actually believe in them.

They believe in them as rheotically useful dialects to speak about things from... but they don't actually believe in the actual principles.

Like we've gotten to the point in politics and society where everyone is so thoroughly full of shit, that we have an illiberal center, roughly, that then just pantomimes different flavors of rhetorical style... and then on the extreme ends you have people that actually believe in any principles beyond 'Im awesome and my team rocks'.

We are so fucking cooked lol, the owners have divided and conquered our minds extremely thoroughly.

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[-] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

God, this shit pisses me off so fucking much because it's this bullshit-ass pop-philosophy that liberals have settled into that pushes away young men and perpetuates the patriarchal bullshit in the world.

To start with..... Have you ever even met anyone in real life that spoke this way? I feel like people on lemmy are so quick to see a post from an unknown random on the internet and speak about it as if it's an epidemic.

The problem is the fucking system, not who is doing the punching. Libs get so wrapped up in anything but the system that they make the problem worse. Like the popularization of the term "mansplaining". Oh neat, so now the problem women face about being seen as competent is about men.

I think the critique is aimed at a functional aspect of the system. You seem to acknowledge the patriarchy, which is a critique of a hierarchical system that is largely controlled by and benefits men. I don't see how agitating against mansplaining is anything but critical towards people talking over or diminishing the voices of women.

Because, of course, feminism didn't come about to improve the treatment of women, but to point out who the bad people are. The would you rather for women about running across a bear or a random man is about how man worse than bear, not that women feel so egregiously unsafe in their daily lives.

How do you change a system without being critical about aspects of the system that require change?

The man vs bear is definitely an allegory about how women feel unsafe due to the discrepancy of power between the sexes, in both physical and societal power.

Libs see women get mistreated for no reason then go "men should suffer, too", then pat themselves on the back because now everyone hates everyone, no matter the gender[bullshit-ass heart emojis].

I think the point is to highlight the discrepancy between the experiences of men and women. For example the man vs bear scenario isn't claiming that men too should be more afraid to run across a random woman than a bear. It's a way to highlight their perspective, the point is we should live in a society where women do not have to feel like they could become prey to unjust violence from a random man.

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[-] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 54 points 1 month ago

Generally true though. Society robs us of all joy on purpose. Can't have shit as a man, because that looks kind of gay.

I'm getting all the stuff society does not want me to.

[-] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago

What robs us of joy is caring about other people’s expectations for us. We are free when we stop worrying about what people think.

[-] trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf 17 points 1 month ago

Man you can stop worrying about people but that sure won't stop them from treating you like shit

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[-] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 15 points 4 weeks ago

What the hell are you talking about? You can't have a rug or society will call you gay?

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[-] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 52 points 1 month ago

Like yes, i want a mommy to take care of me but that and me appreciating your house is not related 💀

[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 52 points 1 month ago

Just remember that nothing online is real and this 45 year old Chinese/indian/russian/israeli man masquerading as a woman to induce social discord won’t be able to affect you!

[-] NoTagBacks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 month ago

Well, the problem isn't that this is being manufactured, but rather exacerbating already existing problems. The Russian IRA didn't start racism in the US around 2013-2016. 4chan didn't found fascism in the west. North Korea didn't originate the very first crypto scams. You're absolutely right that the problems are blown way out of proportion and there are so many trolls out there, it's hard to tell if any one asshole is paid to be an asshole online or not. However, it's best to not over-correct and deny these problems exist at all, even with hyperbole.

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[-] SailorFuzz@lemmy.world 49 points 1 month ago

this is tumblr level insufferable.

[-] chrislowles@lemmy.zip 49 points 1 month ago

"Yeah I don't get it, I just don't get invited to anything anymore" - this person, on occasion, probably

[-] Squatcher@piefed.social 43 points 1 month ago

A real charmer here lol

[-] RBWells@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago

I cannot imagine anyone jumping to that conclusion, this has to be a joke. Like, when I first saw the house of my now husband, the front door opened to a big empty room and my first words were "oh, this is wonderful, it's so empty it looks like a ballroom, you could have a big party here!'. Like, sure, he cannot decorate and defers to me on home renovations now because he always likes what I design (I design, he has veto power) but how is that dysfunctional? He was just fine with the open space, it worked and a house is for the people who live there. And a big empty space is such a flex in a way, like look - I have more house than I need. Guys aren't waiting around hoping someone comes and fills that up, they are enjoying the space, right?

If someone compliments your home, I just can't see getting mad about it.

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[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 month ago

My place looks like a laboratory. I'm still on the original primer on the walls. Blow me.

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[-] Zannsolo@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

Had nice paintings on the wall, spotless place, no clutter, clean bed all before I got married. No paintings,dirty (not gross ) tons of clutter w/wife and kids.

[-] mo_lave@reddthat.com 18 points 1 month ago

I mean, what if they really need a mommy to take care of them because they never had one, or if they had, she was a POS?

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[-] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago

Personally, I have no issue with people living with just the essentials, and although I can appreciate how other people decorate their flats, that would feel crowded to me very soon. Nothing wrong with being content with less.

[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago

"Why is the birth rare dropping off?"

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