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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by JennaR8r@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

I'm a healthy outdoorsy athletic woman, never touched drugs or alcohol or junk food, a lifestyle which is intentional & ESSENTIAL criteria I work hard for.

So WHY the only men who approach me with amorous intentions are unhealthy, cigarette, alcohol, junk food men??

Update: Thank you for your thoughtful responses & the humorous ones too. I upvoted my favorites & laughed at the funnies and you've given me plenty to think about & work on.

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[-] trem 96 points 2 weeks ago

Not sure, if you're actually looking for an explanation or rather just want to rant and/or hope for dating tips, but maybe still helpful to be aware of:

Diagram of a normal distribution

With your specific expectations, you're somewhere to the far left or far right, whichever way you want to read it.
For example, this graph could be applied to alcohol consumption, with 0 on the left and lots on the right. Then you're on the far left.

The Y-axis shows how many people exist in that range. There's some median alcohol consumption, which is going to be in the center of this diagram, where most people are. At 0 alcohol consumption, there's very few people, because it's an extreme.

Obviously, this simplifies a lot. In a real survey, there's probably actually somewhat of a bump at 0 alcohol, because certain religions prohibit consumption.
But yeah, in general, you're hoping for relatively many extremes, so the number of people that match that are quite low. You will naturally get magnitudes more romantic interest from Average Joes, because there's just magnitudes more of them.

As somebody else already said, try to find groups that naturally attract folks from the extremes that you look for, like outdoor sports groups.
Online dating, as problematic as it is, can also be rather good at finding very specific extremes.

[-] HeroicBillyBishop@lemmy.ca 50 points 2 weeks ago

A stats lesson in response to a dating question?! Awesome

Thank you for taking the time to write that

[-] Triumph@fedia.io 14 points 1 week ago
[-] pipe@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Especially lies and damn lies 😆

(Not the case this time though, nice breakdown by trem)

[-] jacksilver@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Haha, I came here to say the same thing. Basically the average person (at least in the US) will probably be overweight (4 in 10 adult men are obese in the US - https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data-and-statistics/adult-obesity-prevalence-maps.html)

Add in any other negative factor (smoking, drinking, misogynistic) and you're probably covering 60-70% of the men in the US!

I've made myself sad with data :(

[-] RBWells@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

This is the most likely explanation by far. You are looking for such a small subset of the available population, you are unlikely to hit on what you want by chance.

You would need to either increase your tolerance in some direction (need fit & active, don't mind some drinking, some junk food as long as they don't care you don't join in that).

One other thought, I am a lady but if I met a guy who was TOO clean living, I'd worry how he was in bed, does he consider sex a vice too? Some of those guys are kinda crazy.

Maybe ask your friends if they know anyone you might vibe with or try online dating apps.

[-] CombatWombat@feddit.online 92 points 1 week ago

I suspect what you're finding is that the kind of men who make amorous advances aren't the kind of men you're interested in, and the kind of men you're interested in don't make amorous advances. Have you tried amorously approaching a man who you're interested in?

[-] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 38 points 1 week ago

unhealthy, cigarette, alcohol, junk food men sounds like an unsuccessful clone of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

[-] SnotFlickerman 23 points 1 week ago

It was very successful and it was called Aqua Teen Hunger Force featuring Carl Brutananadilewski.

[-] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

HEY! WHATCHU DOIN IN MY POOL AGAIN, FRY MAN?

[-] SnotFlickerman 5 points 1 week ago

SVETLANA! BABY?

[-] BorgDrone@feddit.nl 32 points 1 week ago

The outdoorsy athletic healthy men are too busy exercising at the gym to hit on you.

[-] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago

How are these guys supposed to know that without approaching you?

[-] sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 6 points 2 weeks ago

Good point. Maybe she's suggesting she looks fit and healthy while these people don't

[-] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

That's exactly why I'm a drugs and junk food kind of guy. I just got sick of constantly getting flocked by horny women.

[-] disregardable@lemmy.zip 28 points 2 weeks ago

There are more of them that are single than healthy men. Finding your person takes time and effort, but it is worth it.

[-] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

It's a survivorship bias.

[-] dbtng@moist.catsweat.com 22 points 1 week ago

We want to ruin your life too.

[-] SnotFlickerman 9 points 1 week ago

Drag them down to our level.

[-] dbtng@moist.catsweat.com 7 points 1 week ago

Bad girls are fun. Fallen angels are even more fun.

[-] herculeskan@lemmy.zip 20 points 2 weeks ago

Cause healthy good man already had woman

[-] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 week ago

You should give drugs a try though. They’re pretty great.

[-] JennaR8r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 week ago

Drugs cost money and make people addicted and act like idiots and ruin lives. Why would any intelligent person do that to themselves? Addiction runs in my family and it killed my dad & grandpa & cousin. No. I will not try drugs.

[-] IronBird@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

addictions normally come from a lack of social support/means to support oneselves. it's generally only when you're specifically using the drugs as an escapism tool (even moreso, if used unconsciously as an escapist tool) that they land you with an "addiction"). they are otherwise just a cool thing to do every once and awhile because reality can't dull now and then. (also, always test your shit...obviously)

except coke and opoids, them shits is addictive.

[-] raldone01@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

For me the most frightening aspect of drugs is not being my true self and not being 100% in control. I see it all the times when friends do them. While it is funny for me to spend time with them in that state, I would never want to be in that state myself. I do imitate drunkness and lower inhibitions to fit into the environment. Nobody takes any issue with me being sober then.

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[-] iamericandre@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe try joining a running club or something more suited to what you’re looking for.

[-] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Maybe you're putting out junk food vibes? Like you have an aura of dorito dust and Marlboro smoke?

[-] MummifiedClient5000@feddit.dk 14 points 1 week ago

I don't know. Are you a beer?

[-] j4k3@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Submissive om is a dead theory. I do not seek out anyone unless there is some indication of interest. In a truly egalitarian world, you are invited to someone's home. You do not show up unannounced or unsolicited.

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[-] THE_GR8_MIKE@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Because that's the majority of us. Gotta do something fun when every day is a nightmare.

[-] Delphia@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

In my experience most guys who work out, eat clean and get lots of exercise are super conscious of not being "That guy" at their gym, running spots or wherever they go to get their workout on. They also dont tend to have to do a lot of work to meet women outside of that environment. If a guy is handsome, employed and is generally polite and friendly available women will make the advance because as you have found, theres a lot of (even if they are very nice people) guys that well... arent.

[-] Deestan@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Hang around healthy men more.

[-] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

Have you seen my cigs? I left them somewhere between the burger and the vodka bottle. And maybe you'll find my weed while you are looking? Oh, by the way, can I have your number?

[-] roofuskit@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Join a group that gets together to share your interests.

[-] zuckey78@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

Community, solidarity, and connection. Find a meetup. Find your people, then you’ll find your people.

[-] BreadOven@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Where's OP in the comments?

[-] JennaR8r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago

I left my comment up top, updated the body text. Don't feel like responding to everyone individually because it's overwhelming & personal.

[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io 4 points 1 week ago

How symmetrical is your face?

Edit: Sorry, was I being superficial?

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