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[-] amotio@lemmy.world 202 points 1 month ago

The source is "I made it the fuck up!"

Also ignoring improvements in diagnostics.

[-] princessnorah 50 points 1 month ago

I mean, it says the source right there, it's the CDC...

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 78 points 1 month ago

The organization run by a brain worm driving a human suit?

[-] princessnorah 45 points 1 month ago

I don't understand why you or the person I'm replying to are for some reason seeming to dispute the higher rate of autism diagnosis? It's a fairly well-established fact, the point of contention is why the rate is higher.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 78 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Because that'snot what the graph claims, and it is definitely not what the graph implies.

The graph says that there has been a 400% increase in the prevalence of autism. That's not true, and is unsupported by the evidence. There has been a marked increase in the effective diagnosis and therapeutic interventions, but autism was largely undiagnosed and under-reported for almost all of human history. We're still improving and refining the diagnostic criteria, and any changes in the number of cases should not be suggested to support any causal relationship with anything.

The graph is a lie, intended to push a political narrative that undermines the credibility of actual science, all in a transparent effort to distract from powerful child rapists raping children.

[-] amotio@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago

The rate is higher because we can "catch" more cases with better diagnosis.

Imagine machine that is throwing 100 balls per second. Another machine that can catch 10 balls per second. You catch 10 balls.

Now newer machine can catch 20, and newer can catch 50.

Does that mean the number of thrown balls is higher? No. It just means we have machines better at caching them. The same goes for any illness, autism, schizophrenia, cancer, depression...

Some ilnesses we are better at curing, does that mean the the illness is getting weaker?

[-] princessnorah 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm aware of that. I guess my point was that the data isn't inaccurate, but I suppose* labelling it as "prevalence" is the point of contention.

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[-] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Yeah, after deleting any data the CDC used to have that they didn't agree with. And making up any new data they need to make their preconceived notion as perceivably supported as possible.

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[-] Flaqueman@sh.itjust.works 179 points 1 month ago

Number of unvaxxed kids also growing in the past 22 years. I think it proves that autism is caused by lack of vaccine.

[-] Twipped@l.twipped.social 118 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
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[-] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 97 points 1 month ago

Now show the testing rate over the same time period!

[-] prole 29 points 1 month ago

Anti-vaxxers: No.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 69 points 1 month ago

Autism diagnosis rates. Quite a difference.

[-] Uruanna@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

Remember Covid, don't report on things = they stop existing.

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[-] guy@piefed.social 65 points 1 month ago

In my country there has been a huge increase in both ADHD and autism diagnoses the last decades. At the same time in those years the methods to discover both diagnoses have improved greatly.
But you know, correlation does not equal causation..

[-] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 25 points 1 month ago

30 years ago my teacher suspected i am on som sort of spectrum and had to get tested. I remember going to some doctor and i had to clap really fast and look into a light. Believe it of not i was not diagnosed with ADHD, because i'm a really good clapper

[-] guy@piefed.social 15 points 1 month ago

Damn! You should get vaccinated for whatever and try again. Better luck next time?

[-] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago

Mandating helmets for the boys at the front is resulting in many more head injuries!

[-] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 month ago

Yeah, this is like saying “skin cancer rates have increased dramatically in the past 30 years!” Well yeah, because now we have the technology to detect it earlier. That “things increased” stat ignores the complementary “but deaths decreased dramatically” stat that immediately follows it. Before, we didn’t know people had skin cancer until it was killing them. But now, with preventative screenings, public awareness campaigns, etc, people are more likely to get checked before it is a life threatening issue.

It’s the same thing. Detection models got better, so detection rates went up.

[-] A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 48 points 1 month ago

Not autism rates, detection rates is what's up, more kids are growing up with adequate helps and therapies so they can grow to be functional adults.

[-] hunnybubny@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 month ago

It is the same story as gay infecting children's minds.

They are selling awareness as something to be afraid of. Which is yet another layer od evil.

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[-] aeternum 44 points 1 month ago

you know, everest was still there before it was discovered.

[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago

Lies, damn lies, and statistics.

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 33 points 1 month ago

Before you get more downvotes, it's a reference folks: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies,_damned_lies,_and_statistics

[-] militaryintelligence@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago
  1. Autism is a spectrum., same as gender ideology. Whether you like it or not, it's true.
  2. We're better at diagnosis
  3. Preconceived notions about such things aren't as prevalent, until recently for political reasons
[-] Monzcarro@feddit.uk 14 points 1 month ago

I'm a woman in my 40s who is probably autistic, but back then I was the wrong demographic and "too well behaved" to even consider diagnosis. I'm a typical example people think of when thinking about under diagnosis.

On the other hand, I work with people who have severe learning disabilities who also evaded diagnosis, or were diagnosed well into adulthood as diagnosis is difficult in someone so impaired. In another time, they would have been labelled with a grossly offensive term and just left. Better treatment of disabled people is probably another reason we see rising rates of diagnosis.

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[-] Sergio@piefed.social 33 points 1 month ago

This graph will live forever, in intro classes, as an example of how not to do things.

[-] jacksilver@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Im confused, it's got both axis labeled and seems pretty easy to read.

Maybe points off for having the labels on the outside rim of the graphic.

Doesn't change the fact that classification of autism also changed over those years, but the graph itself is okay.

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[-] devolution@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago

Assuming the data is true (doubt it because of fucking beef jerky man), it's not so much that autism is on the rise so much that autism rates are being diagnosed more and autism is less stigmatized than it was previously.

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[-] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Will this administration release data on the impact of fossil emissions on diseases like asthma?

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[-] ThermonuclearCactus 30 points 1 month ago

In other news, visibility bias has been classified as communist propaganda. Anyone who says this isn't representative of an actual increase in the incidence rate is a communist and can safely be ignored.

[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago
[-] echodot@feddit.uk 25 points 1 month ago

That line of best fit doesn't even match the data. How can it start above the data and then finish above the data but still be line of best fit. Not that that's the only problem with this graph of course.

[-] bhamlin@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Sorry, it's actually a "best fits our narrative" line. I can see how you might have been confused.

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[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There is an 𝑥 axis and it's not too hard to comprehend, although I'd prefer the dividing character to be newline rather than "|", or only show the surveillance year.

Also, the "trendline" is sus, an actual trendline cannot always be above data.

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[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

prevalence of cancer has increased ∞% since 0 BC

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[-] Professorozone@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

Well the cure is clearly to stop testing.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

Instances of autism have skyrocketed since the discovery of autism and effective testing for it.

Clearly these tests are causing the autism. It's a conspiracy by Big Autist to make the world a quieter and more curious place. The railway companies are in on it too.

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[-] Plum@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

....................... did they adjust the data points to go from lowest to highest

......so the chart go up?

.....

*I wrote down the data on a napkin and it makes more sense. These fuckers made a Bad Graph.

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[-] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

When people say autism they think of the nonverbal kind not the model train kind.

[-] ComradeRachel 16 points 1 month ago

10 out of a 1000 to 30ish out of a 1000 doesn’t even seem like a massive increase, especially if it’s really due to something like a pain medication that is taken by a huge population. Which it’s not as it’s more related to improvements in diagnosing.

I guess they are just hoping people see bar go up and therefore bad.

[-] Caffeinated_Sloth@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Military spending also increased from 2000-2022, ergo military spending causes autism.

[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Also remember that we only had diagnostic tools for adult autism beginning in the 1980s.

The rise of autism diagnosis does not necessarily equal a rise in autism.

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[-] Pandantic@midwest.social 11 points 1 month ago

It looks nepotism put a failson in charge of this graph.

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