Out of curiosity, what makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?

you extremist

LD and SNW are easily some of the best Trek series.

How would TNG have fared if people dipped out at ep 2?

So, why didn't you like Discovery?

I was hardly the target audience for Lower Decks; in fact, I was a little mad they had made an adult animated Star Trek comedy. However, after watching it, it has become a favorite. Season 1 is a bit difficult to get through, but once you get through that, overall, it's a show that's very sincere to what Star Trek is while still being a comedy. And it should have gotten 2 more seasons.

Same with Star Trek: Prodigy: it takes a second, and it's still technically a kids show, but when it gets there, it's worth it.

Honestly, I'm half hopeful for the show just because it's a "We're going for the {X} demographic" kind of show that sounds a little like a stupid idea that will actually turn out unexpectedly good but get cancelled before its time.

Same for me.

Just saw jem Hadar in the star fleet in this trailer? What?

I see them prioritizing:

1. Diversity and political correctness
2. Special effects
3. Dramatic feel / grandiose feel

...

99. Storyline

Kurzman really destroyed trek.

I will see what comes out in the first 3 episodes, but as with discovery, I have extremely little expectations. Discovery ruined new trek for me: still cannot get over the mushroom drive and waterbear providing maps by shocking it with electricity, constantly whispering and whining of the main character, another crybaby destroyed dilithium in the galaxy because he has a 'connection'... Take your pick

They do have some good casting, like Tig Notaro. Hope there are other good ones as well.

@ValueSubtracted it's too early for a backlash. This must be a front-lash.

Eh, it should depend on the nature of the backlash, IMO.

Whining about a black lead? Yea, that's good backlash to hate on.

Whining that they've completely remove the intellectualism of Star Trek in favor of drama, nostalgia, and flashy things on screen? Yea, that's totally valid backlash, the kind that got us SNW in the first place.

Section 31 was perfectly passable as a non Star Trek thing. If it were a random sci-fi movie it had fun moments. As Star Trek? Good lord it was garbage.

No, no, this time Star Trek will be woke. I can tell by the trailer. It's never been woke before.

‘Fans’ fundraised to pay for full page advertisements in major US newspapers as a campaign to persuade NBC not to broadcast TAS even after its season one production was almost complete.

Ok, I’ll bite. From the trailer, it just looks like another season of Discovery. Same look and feel, same era, many of the same cast members. And since I didn’t care for Discovery, I doubt I will care for this either.

Exactly!

The post apocalyptic Discovery future is just something I couldn't care less about. It's not interesting, and this show looks like a direct sequel to it.

They didn't even change it to an actual Academy, instead also putting it on a spaceship to just keep doing the same kind of thing, but with more excuses for the "younger and edgier" crew. So many alarmbells ringing.

It doesn't help that I grew up with the Starfleet Academy videogame, and thus that period is forever linked to it.

With Star Wars, they didn't even do the main film franchise well. Episode 7 was okay, but 8 was such hot garbage I read up on why and found out there was no overarching plan for the trilogy, and different directors for each. No wonder they pulled a J.K. Rowling to completely change the rules of their own systems to meet the needs of the (bad) plot, and shit all over their own franchise. Skywalker might as well have been given a Super Time Turner to save the day in 8.

Disney Star Wars films are bad fan fiction, not canon.