My point is that I haven’t ever had any patience with the generational gatekeeping in the Star Trek.
I’ve been offended by it since the TOS fans campaigned to keep TAS from ever being aired. And I am more than done with TNG fans trying to brigade and kill every new offering.
I really don’t think you are assessing anything new on its merits at all.
What I am trying to say is that we - my spouse and I — am enjoying S31 on its merits, for what it is, in this period of television and movie making.
It IS fun stuff. We will be rewatching again!
My partner loved all the little inside references, including the hairstyle on the singer in the lounge.
S31 is a piece of this time. And we aren’t living in 1990.
It has more richness than Ryan Gosling or Ryan Reynolds action movies that become boring with endless action sequences.
I personally loved TNG in its run. It was the right Star Trek for its time.
If you asked me in the early 1990s, I would have agreed that TNG was the best Trek ever.
At that time, I much preferred it to TOS At that point, TOS was far enough out of time that it grated but not so far that it can be appreciated for itself, as something from another era.
I’m actually finding TNG not so great now. Your appreciation can evolve over time if you let it.
When our kids (now late teens) went through an intense fandom for Voyager in middle school, I understood why they thought it was the better show of the two. It was a better fit for them and I came to really love that show after originally finding it weaker than TNG.
Where I am coming from is that the TNG generation of fans needs to seriously lighten up and stop trying to insist that it’s the only model for good Trek or television.
You don’t own Trek any more than the boomers and older GenX did when TNG came on. At least we were the key demographic then - you are NOT now. TNG fans in their 40s are not the generation that this movie primarily targets.
Just as the TOS fans who were so derisive of TNG were damaging to the franchise, so is from the Berman era younger GenX and older Millennial fans.
You want tension and drama in a Star Trek show or movie.
That could be good. But it’s NOT the ONLY definition of good. It’s just a different kind of storytelling.
Trek on TV and movies has always had a mix of drama, horror, comedy, camp and action adventure. Even TNG covered all of these every single season.
We’re in an era where generally shows keep to one tone.
I have argued that the TNG and Kelvin movies that tried to hard to mix tones within a single movie, felt cringey (Nemesis, Beyond).
S31 went for a single tone for the most part and delivered.
SNW is able to mix tones because it’s episodic but there are fans who refuse to watch any episodes because the campy or lighthearted ones exist.
Well, I just rewatched it and enjoyed it all the more the second time.
My partner saw it for the first time, really enjoyed it, laughing the way through - with an overall rating of 7.5.
Like my partner, I’m an old thing.
I have watched absolutely everything Trek in first run since 1966 so I don’t have a lot of patience with those who became fans in the Berman era and feel entitled to gatekeep or define what isn’t Trek or isn’t ‘good’ for the next generation
I actively kept TOS fans from booing down young TNG fans trying to speak up at the cons in the late 1980s and early 1990s. These YouTubers are cut from the same mould but unfortunately have a much bigger public than the toxic TOS fans did on Usenet or subscription mimeod fanzines.
I actually enjoyed S31 for what it is and am about to rewatch it today with my partner.
It’s campy, and full of action sequences and fights, but that was to be expected with MU Georgiou.
It’s relatively rich in plot and characterization when I compare it to the run of current action movies like ‘The Grey Man’ on Netflix.
And it’s soooo much better than Star Trek V ‘The Final Frontier’.
How anyone can talk about the movies failing now clearly had rose coloured glasses on while watching:
Kirk’s death in ‘Generations’
the completely boring, Patrick Stewart indulgent dune buggy sequence in ‘Nemesis’ followed by the offensive rape content with stoic and sarcastic Troi turned into a tearful, dependant mess
‘Into Darkness’
the destruction of the Enterprise, ridiculous motorcycle stored on bridge and motorcycle action sequence in ‘Beyond’
Not sure ‘cutting them’ is totally accurate.
The writing team and original creator/showrunner EPs Kim & Lippoldt were joined by a guy who had some showrunner experience. At the time, it sounded more like the Paramount suits weighed in on that as the show stayed in development hell even after an original greenlight.
But the fact is that when S31 got put on the back burner during the pandemic lockdown, Kim & Lippoldt took an offer from Netflix to take over as showrunners of ‘Sweet Tooth’.
They have been very successful with that. Paramount would be very fortunate to get them back to run anything.
My thoughts exactly.
It would be great if they could bring Kim & Lippoldt back as showrunners/EPs and get someone else to direct it.
We picked up some good deals from the promotion this week.
Several Star Trek licensed games are on Steam, now at a significantly discounted price for the annual Star Trek Day celebration.
These include the MMP Star Trek Online, but also single player games Star Trek Bridge Crew and Star Trek Resurgence (a choose your own path role play game).
We’d waited until Resurgence came to Steam, because we did want to buy it from Epic, but decided to be even more patient and wait for a sale so we could get it for our teens as well. I’ve been playing in parallel with one of our teens and debating the impacts of our very different choices.
I have had Bridge Crew since 2022, but we got copies for the teens yesterday. One is into it. It requires running an Ubisoft account synched to Steam which can be annoying, but otherwise G2G.
Having reached my exasperation on the total lack of information from Bell Media on a Canadian release, I asked @GoodAaron@mastodon.social if he or the Hagemans could share any information. Here is his reply on Mastodon.
It’s great to have EPs who will engage with us.
I’m still gearing up my recipes for a Star Trek Prodigy Soirée for the premiere!
In case you haven’t seen this, CBS entertainment sponsored a social media influencer to develop watch party ideas for the Prodigy Season 1 finale Supernova Soirée .
I’ve been experimenting and building on some of these ideas for the premiere of season two. One of Canada’s favourite ice cream brands has this interesting suggestion for A triple-berry yogurt sorbet float punch that seems very Star Trek Prodigy themed.
The Directors Guild of Canada (Ontario) ‘Hot List’ compilation of Ontario-based production information has been updated with a new CBS Studios show ‘Ivory Tower’ to begin Accounting & Art Department preproduction in March.
While all TAS episodes had some kind of moral lesson, S1 E10 was an outright criticism of substance use.
M’Ress and Scotty, unwittingly exposed, end up enamoured then incensed with one another. One is never sure how different that is from a Caitian’s usual romantic style.
Chapel comes off badly in this one. As Spock puts it “A few moments of love, paid for with several hours of hatred.” It’s all the more poignant given SNW’s deepening of their backstory.
I have realized that I need a new editing tool that will let me use panels with more than 6 frames.
A private message with a recommendation would be appreciated sincerely.
Anyone interested?
I can see so much potential for guidance from a telepathic Aenar engineer & an avianoid counsellor.
There are exceptions. Someone who was up until recently a teacher may fall into the category of being in a position of trust or authority towards the minor. Without knowing the legal precedents, it’s hard to know how much of an edge case this is.
From the JusticeThe following factors may be taken into account when determining whether a relationship is exploitative of the young person:
From the* Justice Canada webpage on Age of Consent*
Sexual exploitation A 16 or 17 year old cannot consent to sexual activity if:
- their sexual partner is in position of trust or authority towards them, for example their teacher or coach
- the young person is dependent on their sexual partner, for example for care or support the relationship between the young person and their sexual partner is exploitative
The following factors may be taken into account when determining whether a relationship is exploitative of the young person:
- the young person's age
- the age difference between the young person and their partner
- how the relationship developed (for example, quickly, secretly, or over the internet)
- whether the partner may have controlled or influenced the young person
There’s still very low understanding of how devastating and threatening the convoy protests were for the residents and businesses in the core of Ottawa.
Residents, businesses and people who work downtown in Ottawa roll with protests day-in and out. Large ones usually are usually respectful of the legal limits, and local people know how to plan their days to avoid them if they need to.
This protest damaged hearing with unremitting high decibel air horns, polluted the air with weeks of nonstop truck emissions, actively harassed, intimidated and threatened local residents trying to get to work and essential services, filled the streets with garbage and feces.
They also created significant fire hazards and risked major explosions, including by creating a large stash of gasoline in tanks in Confederation Park - directly across the street from city hall, an armoury, and close to a high school as well as right across the narrow Rideau canal from National Defence headquarters.
But it was the utter lack of consideration for the most vulnerable that truly showed the incredible selfishness and lack of compassion of the protesters.
There are many lower income, disabled and senior residents in coop apartments downtown. Many rely on visiting services from care workers who could not get through the protests on most days. A small proportion had family and friends who were able to host them outside the area of the protests, most were trapped, isolated and terrorized.
There just doesn’t seem to be a limit to the amount of hype I’m willing to soak up in anticipation of this crossover.
Nothing close to too much as yet.
Well, I have to give the OP credit for outrageous audacity.
Coming to the main community on the dedicated Star Trek instance to argue that users should subscribe elsewhere is inherently a criticism. It says a lot about the tolerance of the mods and admins here that it’s been left to stand.
I myself appreciate a well moderated community because I believe it enables more discussion not less.
What stood out to me in the article was the disingenuous quote from the Oil & Gas industry saying that tax breaks aren’t subsidies because they are part of the tax system.
Those familiar with the tax system and public finance will be aware that Finance Canada has published a list of Federal Tax Expenditures and their value for a long time. There’s even a distinct section for fossil fuels.
Tax subsidies are subsidies.
Overbooking is regrettably the long standing practice of Air Canada.
Missing a holiday of a lifetime is really unfortunate. We’ve nearly experienced more dire circumstances travelling with small children when Air Canada attempted to bump us when we were connecting overseas from a codeshared flights.
Dan Gardner is right to profile his experience. I especially appreciate his underscoring that no matter how many steps he took as a customer - early online checkin 24 hours before the flight, arrival and in person checkin the airport well in advance, he and his son were still mysteriously taken off the flight at the gate at boarding with no explanation. The blithe disrespect that the staff at the checkin and gates have towards the travellers in such situations is one of the things that make flying with Air Canada so incredibly stressful.
Once upon decades ago, Air Canada used to offer vouchers for free additional flights as an incentive for travellers to agree to take a later flight. Now Air Canada feels it has the right to impose significant financial and personal cost on it customers without compensation, recourse or explanation.
I’d say definitely more than adjacent as it sounds like he’s been the CBS Studios side suit opposite Kurtzman who’s been running the production company responsible for the Star Trek franchise.