[-] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 1 points 24 minutes ago

Definitely a YMMV situation.

Many episodes that may be described as ‘filler’ are ones that have side adventures or character development. Farscape isn’t rigidly serialized. Just because it’s not moving the main plot narrative doesn’t mean it’s filler.

Monarch: Legacy of Monsters is very much more realistic in tone than the movies that take place later in the continuity, including the two you’ve seen.

It takes place before the earlier movie Godzilla: King of the Monsters (2019).

It might be worth checking out even if kaiju aren’t usually your thing.

[-] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 1 points 20 hours ago

Another episode that hits right to the last beat.

Did anyone expect that result? Even after what was highlighted in the recap?

Unintended consequences seem to be the legacy in every generation.

Keiko seems to be the only one with the ability to foresee the potential risks and outcomes , but she’s also the one who, due to her own risk taking, spent more than half a century in Axis Mundi.

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Shaw and Suzuki test a “Titan phone” designed to summon Godzilla, triggering an unforeseen event that puts Shaw in the path of his own past.

Written by: Maria Melnik

Directed by: Jeff King

Welcome to the episode discussion! There is no spoiler protection in episode discussion threads, and spoiler tags are not necessary!

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Mastdon post on creator’s account.

Not available yet at gricklemart.com but, his earlier Godzilla ones are there.

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cross-posted from: https://startrek.website/post/37655947

Mastdon post on creator’s account.

Not available yet at gricklemart.com but, his earlier Godzilla ones are there.

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Mastdon post on creator’s account.

Not available yet at gricklemart.com but, his earlier Godzilla ones are there.

Coming back to add that, if you like character-driven stories, but have never thought that kaiju might be your thing, Monarch: Legacy of Monsters now in its second season on AppleTV might be for you.

The show takes place in the middle of the Monsterverse continuity that currently has the licence for Toho’s Godzilla monsters. It’s an entry point nonetheless. You needn’t have ever seen anything in this continuity or others to get into it.

It’s less focused on fighting Titans than on the mystery of understanding them, the weird science fiction efforts humanity uses to share a world with them, and most of all the characters whose lives are intertwined with the mystery.

[-] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Babylon 5’s is great if you like serialization. The first season is very weak due to a major health crisis in the principal character that occurred between the shooting of the pilot and the launch of the series. The story was adjusted so that a new station head and actor could take on the lead.

Farscape is an absolute gem and a wild ride. It really picks up after the first 12 episodes. It’s so incredibly influential on so many science fiction shows in the streaming era that it’s worth watching just for that alone. Be aware that the show was canceled before it could wrap up its full arc. A limited series was made later to wrap up the storyline — make sure you’ll be able to be able to get it.

I’m a fan of many of the old 1960s and 1970s shows but watching them really depends on your tolerance for older production styles and scripting. Space 1999 is worth tracking down for sure.

In terms of more recent shows, three serialized shows that involved time travel that actually stuck the landing are Continuum, Travelers, and 12 Monkeys. All are very good, with strong ensembles, but reflect the darker sci-fi trend of the 2010s.

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For those wondering about the $150 million lawsuit involving Jeff Shell — currently President of the merged Paramount but previously removed from his role as CEO at NBCUniversal in 2023 — THR has an in depth piece about R.J. Cipriani, the flamboyant FBI informant.

At his favorite corner table at the Venice restaurant Gjelina, Cipriani refers to himself as “a kamikaze,” “a lone wolf,” “a wild card” and “a fucking cowboy.” He drops names, cracks jokes, issues threats. On several occasions, he breaks into song. An observant Catholic, he says he’s recently been visiting his local church in Santa Monica multiple times a day to pray as he contends with “forces of evil,” adding, “I’m a soldier of God.”

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One of the oldest screen franchises now has a home on Lemmy!

Are you a Monsterverse fan? Or, perhaps just Monsterverse curious.

Whatever your degree of love for or interest in kaiju and all things Monsterverse, this community is intended to be a welcoming place in the fediverse for you.

Join us to discuss the new television franchise on AppleTV with Monarch: Legacy of Monsters and the spinoff Coldwar spy thriller prequel going into production this spring.

Or, share your thoughts about the more than 70 years of the movie franchise that started with Godzilla (1954).

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Now that we’ve had some time to digest the events of 2 x 05, it might be interesting to speculate and discuss what’s happening and where we think the Monsterverse is going with the apparent link between Cate, and Keiko, Randa to the Titans.

From her first interactions with Godzilla in Monarch: Legacy of Monsters season one, we’ve been shown that Cate Randa has an unusual ability to connect with Titans/kaiju. In season two, it’s also been shown that Keiko is repeatedly aware of Co-Cai/TitanX ahead of others.

This doesn’t seem to be like the longstanding relationship between Mothra and the twins.

Are we getting a third angle on the Legacy? Monster research/Monarch + fractured attachment in relationships + genetic communication ability?

Any thoughts?

Amazon took on another 3 seasons of The Expanse with about 130k, Netflix did an additional full 20 episode season of *Star Trek: Prodigy with 35k.

More than that, 32.5 k is a lot for one of these petitions in this amount of time. We don’t know what it will level off at.

The rate of signings is accelerating, with nearly 5k in the past 24 hours.

I wished they’d used an official image. It’s really odd.

But it was the first petition up so it’s the one with traction.

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The first change.org petition to Renew “Star Trek: Starfleet Academy” for a third season hit 30,000 signatures today, and is over 31,000 at the time of this post.

The one at the post link is the one launched from the UK with the regrettable, unofficial (likely AI) image. But it was up first and has been getting momentum.

There’s another one Renew Star Trek Starfleet Academy for a full season three, with the official key art poster that is about to break 5,000 signatures.

Between these two, Starfleet Academy now has more signatures than did Prodigy when Netflix picked up its second season.

Clearly this is causing consternation among some of those who have opposed the show from the outset. There are now opposing petitions Urge Paramount to shelve Star Trek: Starfleet Academy season two; Keep the Academy series permanently cancelled; and similar. None of these has significant traction.

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The first change.org petition to Renew “Star Trek: Starfleet Academy” for a third season hit 30,000 signatures today, and is over 31,000 at the time of this post.

The one at the post link is the one launched from the UK with the regrettable, unofficial (likely AI) image. But it was up first and has been getting momentum.

There’s another one Renew Star Trek Starfleet Academy for a full season three, with the official key art poster that is about to break 5,000 signatures.

Between these two, Starfleet Academy now has more signatures than did Prodigy when Netflix picked up its second season.

Clearly this is causing consternation among some of those who have opposed the show from the outset. There are now opposing petitions Urge Paramount to shelve Star Trek: Starfleet Academy season two; Keep the Academy series permanently cancelled; and similar. None of these has significant traction.

Cool. I think I’ll be supporting this one.

I’ve been having fun getting new and interesting games through kickstarter campaigns.

My partner is finding this eye rolling, as I’m roping them and one of our teens into play testing. But, I look forward to taking some of these to our regional gaming convention. It’s nice to be able to offer some fresh games with licensed media.

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Shaw and Suzuki test a “Titan phone” designed to summon Godzilla, triggering an unforeseen event that puts Shaw in the path of his own past.

Once again, a somewhat spoilery official teaser clip has been shared with media — available in this article

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An interesting analysis of GvK’s place in the industry’s recovery as the COVID-19 pandemic emergency wound down sufficiently that theatres reopened.

Godzilla vs. Kong eventually earned $470 million worldwide, making it a true, unqualified success. It was the first sign that en masse moviegoing could still exist in whatever our new normal would look like.

As a Canadian, I’ not going to rate that highly as an apology.

It’s rather a sorry, not sorry, let’s be buds and talk some (unspecified) time

But it may play differently in a US cultural setting.

It’s interesting that he felt he needed to do that though.

Let’s compare this to Tarantino, Sussman, and many others that have made pitches on the film and television side over the past decade.

They’ve all felt they had a great idea, they’ve been quite public about having pitched it, and they’ve attempted to build up fan interest and momentum.

If Weir had just done the same, I don’t think there’d be any adverse effect. Likely, the opposite in the current environment.

Instead, he took his moment in the sun not to pitch his idea to the public, or say that he had an idea that wasn’t viewed as fitting with where the franchise was then but perhaps it might be reconsidered: He took his moment in the sun to retaliate.

Why would a producer want to risk hearing a pitch from him in future?

I would argue that very little good science fiction tries to have nothing to say about humanity or the human condition.

There is some very intellectual and intelligent science fiction that takes on and speculates about advanced science and mathematics concepts but these are rarely mainstream and not at all the kind of thing Weir writes.

Some science fiction can be just fun science, engineering or math speculation stories told in prose, but if doesn’t have something to say about ourselves, it’s value isn’t much more than diversion — although diversion and entertainment are valuable in themselves.

Setting aside for now Weir’s rather sour grapes criticism of Star Trek, and stipulating the fact that Star Trek has, from its earliest episodes, had a recurrent pattern of including very transparent and heavy handed allegories to current social and political situations and controversies, let’s consider the general question of what is science fiction for.

Science fiction can be and has been a means of allegorical storytelling, and of pondering the human condition at the individual and the societal level. It tells us about ourselves as much as it tells us about a broader universe.

Huxley and Orwell did this with their dystopias. However, so did hard science fiction greats like Arthur C. Clark. Childhood’s End, Rendezvous with Rama, and 2001: a Space Odyssey were as much about who we are now as what might be out there.

More literary science fiction authors explored themes in psychology and human consciousness from the mid twentieth century on, and high quality science fiction took up those questions in films like The Forbidden Planet.

I didn’t find this kind of reaching about the human condition in either of Weir’s books. I did find them fun rides, the kind of pop fiction that used to be described as “airport” novels — the kind of book people pick up in airport kiosks before a long flight, that are often make into “popcorn movies.”

The science elements in his books are ok, but not astonishing. The level is really middle school, which is why The Martian was reissued in a ‘school edition’ cleaned of the swear words. My own first contact with Weir was our youngest’s ‘school edition’. It wasn’t an overly challenging book for a bright grade 6 student.

What I found in Weir’s writing was a repeating pattern of a lone-wolf individual male hero making some incredibly daft decisions after a catastrophic event that set up his opportunity to MacGyver himself out of the situation. It’s a trope.

It’s not definitive of the genre and it’s not conducive to the ensemble problem solving needed for more complex STEM work in science fiction. And unfortunately Weir’s short fiction has shown that he hasn’t yet mastered the skill of telling stories on a broader canvas.

Fun ride episodes, shows and movies belong in Star Trek and other science fiction too. I’m not saying that they shouldn’t be there. One of the franchise’s strengths has been that it can incorporate the full range of styles. But it’s never been only fun rides and individual heroism or individual MacGyvering. I think we’d see as much scathing criticism if shows tried to be just that.

But back to Weir’s attitude and tone, speaking in his moment of success.

He could have let his work speak for itself, and focused on promoting his film.

Instead he chose to prop up himself by putting down others. I don’t respect that. I don’t see that as having integrity. I see that as being a jerk, and it validates the sense that I got from his books that he doesn’t know himself how to work well with others so he doesn’t write what he doesn’t know.

He didn’t have to shoot his mouth off when baited. Instead, he chose to weigh disingenuously into the ‘culture wars’ by claiming to be above having a message.

He could have chosen at some future moment to drop a mention that he, like many writers had pitched spec scripts to the Star Trek franchise that weren’t taken up for movies or television, that weren’t seen as a fit in the strategic plan of the franchise at the time. That would have likely garnered a lot of positive interest from across the Trek fandom.

Instead, he chose to use his moment to trash the creations of others and, implicitly, the part of the fandom that those shows were written for.

He won’t be getting my money.

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The sigh from me is wondering why Andy Weir felt it necessary to use a platform like ‘criticaldrinker’ to go out of his way to trash recent Star Trek.

“They didn’t accept my pitch so, you know, fuck ‘em,” doesn’t really sell me on putting my dollars and eyeballs towards the success of his movie — no matter a great performance by Ryan Gosling or great production values.

Rather tells me why all Weir’s heros are lone-guy-saves-all-on-his-own tropes.

Quoting Weir in the interview:

Later, Marsden brought up the divisive Star Trek: Starfleet Academy, which Paramount+ recently confirmed will end after its already-shot second season.

“I think we can probably safely never talk about it again,” Marsden quipped. 

“It’s gone baby!” Weir cheerfully agreed. “It’s all gone.” 

Marsden said his advice to Paramount is to de-canonize everything Star Trek from Enterprise onward.

“Okay, you’re a little more severe than I am,” Weir said. “I’ll give you my opinion and I’m just a consumer. I like Strange New Worlds. I think it’s pretty good. I didn’t hate Enterprise. I thought it was kind of weird. Lower Decks I thought was entertaining and fun. All the others, they can go. And here’s another thing: I pitched a Star Trek show to Paramount and I was in Zoom with the showrunners with all the shows and spent a lot of time talking to [executive producer Alex Kurtzman]. I don’t like a lot of the new Trek. He, as a person, is a really nice guy. But at the same time, those shows are shit. He is a nice guy. But they didn’t accept my pitch so, you know, fuck ’em.”

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