I would not fly to the US even if I got paid for it. I value my life and the US politics look like a serious threat to my wellbeing.

So, count me (German) into the group of „stay the hell away from the US“ people.

I am a US citizen living abroad. Even I'm afraid to go back home to see my family.

Even as an American I don't understand why tourism hasn't dropped more than it has. I know it's down but I'm amazed people are still coming at all.

But, it's true that the mainstream media isn't really reporting on this, Trump's 'flood the zone' strategy works exceedingly well.

Go read about how empty Las Vegas is and all the people scratching their heads wondering why no one wants to come. Personally, I think the people who say they don't know are lying or stupid.

Oh wow, it's true. This is from April, it was 8 at that time:

One Kiwi woman in her 40s was allegedly detained at San Francisco Airport for 15 hours and forced to buy a return ticket to New Zealand after officials took issue with the visa she’d been issued by the State Department.

Planning to visit her partner in Florida, who works on a fixed-term contract, before holidaying in Europe, the woman was allegedly questioned for five hours over her visa, Arizona-based author Wendilynn Kay alleged in a post reshared on Facebook.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/travel/travel-news/eight-kiwis-detained-at-us-border-since-november-mfat-reminds-travellers-of-entry-rules-amid-safetravel-review/BUP6FRREGJE33FEV4IJ334VSVQ/

Oh for fucks sake, stay away. Most of us know exactly what is going on. Stay they fuck away for a dozen years or so while we fight our out of it, or show up to help. Either way, don’t come here to holiday. We gotta unfuck ourselves first.

You aren't supposed to travel into Nazi Germany right as they are setting up the concentration camps. US tourism should be zero if you don't have family here

I watch Telemundo with subtitles in my office when I want to have something on so I can try to learn a little more Spanish. Everyday they're talking about ICE abducting people. It's wild. And it's local Telemundo. This shit is fucked.

I told someone from UK recently that yeah, America is cool, I think it's worth seeing some of the national parks, but maybe wait until this administration is out because holy FUCK.

What has been particularly telling for me as an Aussie is the sheer number of radio ads I've heard in the past few months trying to get people to travel to the US, or offering competitions where the prize is a US holiday (which, if I was the type to actually phone and enter radio station competitions, would be a deterrant for me!). It's clear that US tourism has taken a nose-dive and plenty of us non-Americans don't want to visit any more (it's a bit disappointing as there are a few things I would like to have seen, but wouldn't risk going there now).

As an American I can confirm we are absolute trash right now and we're sealing our fate for at least a generation.

People the world over are going to spend the rest of their lives at the very least having a bad taste in their mouth when America is brought up. Things may "normalize" and regular trade agreements may resume, but trust is broken and that's long-term.

It's unbelievably depressing to watch from the inside. The shock of finding out that such a high percentage of your fellow citizens are stupid/racist/hateful is profound.

This is how state Russian media works. Never cover the truth, like a war with Ukraine. It's a "special military operation".

Was recently at a conference and I wasasked if I would give a presentation at one of the Universities in the US. My rather fast no offended them.

No fucking way, nope nope nope

I'm Canadian and I'd rather get a piping hot poutine enema than visit the US right now.

Remember the countries Trump called shitholes? That's America for most sane Europeans. It's a shithole counrty where you'll be detained if you've got a meme of Jester D. Vance.

They know. The voted for it and are witnessing it quietly.

But don't forget the files guys. Keep talking about the files instead.

People who watch fox news don't know anything. Those of us who read the news from various sources are aware of what's happening. Sadly, we're a very small minority. What's happening here is scary as hell, especially when you see so many people just acting like everything is normal, either because they actually think that or they just don't know what else to do. I hope democracy will survive this, but the architects of its demise have been largely unimpeded so far. If I wasn't American, there's no fucking way I would come here with the fulvous fascist in power. Fuck trump. Fuck fascism.

To be fair, before that I was already afraid to go there too. There are so many people with guns and so many mass shootings, my chances of getting shot would skyrocket.

Why are New Zealanders being detained?

Yeah, wow. First I'm hearing of it and I live here.

They're doing US citizens too though, so it doesn't surprise me.

Literally just had to explain to my wife that her friends may be OK visiting as they are white but that it's not a great idea to be travelling to the US.

Regrettably I feel it's the minority in alot of countries that have these moral sensibilities

Half of us literally voted for it specifically and will defend it, the other half feel powerless. Most of us abso-fucking-lutely know it's happening. I've seen it in my daily life, people I interacted with just gone after years of being here, no recourse.

Then there are those that know and downplay it. "Well they were immigrants, they were stupid if they lost their greencard". When I reply with "uh, it's us citizens next" they are too afraid and hopeless to accept it.

We see regular articles about the decline in business for American tourism in our part of Canada. There have been some major destination offers of 50-80% off offered to Canadians willing to return and stay at traditional places Canadians visit.

Fuck em. Death to murica.

Some of us are absolutely aware, but powerless to make any change. I'm speaking up to family who only watch the propaganda put out by the right wing machine. But I'm mainly wonder how to sell my house, and get my ex wife and son out of here... and from there... where? What would I do for work?

Or get labelled as "dangerous criminals", because of the quota of ICE.

I grew up learning that the communist secret police was bad, because they had to fill out quotas of arrests for crimes, so they just tortured people until they confessed. Often they were executed. Even one of my great-grandfather was sent to a gulag after he was at the wrong place during the 1956 revolution of Hungary, while the other was almost arrested for not wanting to shoot protestors with a machine gun.