Oh but blue states not giving federal taxes over is "starting a civil war."
The civil war is already happening. Wake the fuck up people.
Oh but blue states not giving federal taxes over is "starting a civil war."
The civil war is already happening. Wake the fuck up people.
Mamdani won a mayoral primary, hasn’t even been elected yet and the hype on all sides is enormous.
Really hope New Yorkers dig in and back this dude.
that is how you know he is the right candidate, Trump is an inverse indicator
I predict Mamdani and Trump will have similar arcs through the media landscape. The media hated Trump but just couldn't stop paying attention to him, even though every time they attacked him it only made him stronger. Now they are all bending the knee to him.
The same exact thing is happening with Mamdani, but this time for all the best reasons. Mamdani's campaign might easily become a nationwide avalanche.
might easily become a nationwide avalanche
Anecdotally, I have fairly non-political coworkers in other states that are hyping up Mamdani. His reach across Gen Z is honestly insane and people are even making TikTok/Instagram hype edits of him all the time
Mamdani is fucking AMAZING, I'm from the UK and I'm hyped xD
Lmao, damn, trump seems really scared of this guy.
All the conservatives seem really scared of this guy.
Wonder why republicans might be scared of Democratic candidates left of dead center. Almost like a real alternative not slobbering out neoliberal, Chicago school of economics, nonsense could sweep them in a lot of traditional safe seats.
Or at least be really hard to rally their base against if their base actually hears what the policies are.
Well of course. He's charismatic, young and he talks to the people he wants to represent. He's the antithesis of everything they are.
With the current state of affairs, I’m worried he’s going to fall out of a window and shoot himself in the back of the head
Just FYI: withholding money is financial abuse, a favorite tactic of abusers, since it leaves no visible marks until significant damage is done.
I'm so tired of people not telling this old bunch of shit sacks to fuck off. I'd have so much respect for any threatened tRump victim if they just told him the fuck off after shits like that.
This shows that waiting to 2026 and hoping that Dems will take over Congress is really pointless. They won't acknowledge and certify any results that aren't their people.
At this point we either fight or accept end of US as a democracy.
We do not fight on their terms.
They want battles in the streets. They want explosives, dead feds and cops.
They want 258,000,000 dead Americans. They don't give two shits what side it's on.
A Mayoral election giving the elite this much terror is extremely telling. The GOP didn't work the top down, they worked the bottom up. Local governments, states, and the branches of the Federal government.
If NYC can get this guy elected, then the doubt that fascists need to instill in the idea of democracy gets bolstered, and they have to do things that will be even more unpopular than kidnapping immigrants.
At this point we either fight or accept end of US as a democracy.
I really wish we could stop all the pussyfooting and just get to the actual open conflict portion on the program already. It's obviously what both sides want at this point, let's cut the shit and just do the fuckin thing already.
This Mamdani guy is BAD NEWS! He wants to GIVE YOU BACK your Tax Dollars in the Form of Food and Healthcare and Transportation! That's LUDICROUS! DO the Right Thing New York and Elect the Politician who will CONTINUE GIVING YOUR TAX DOLLARS TO THE BILLIONAIRES DESTROYING YOUR DAILY WAY OF LIFE!
And we're right back to election interference. I wonder if something will be done about it this time.
Good thing New York doesn’t need it and provides money for the federal government. It’s more like New York will stop till they get their shit together.
Another way to escalate this situation is to raise the taxes on billionaires enough to account for the missing revenue from the federal government. Itemize it and call it the "Trump tax".
Then join hands with New England and the west coast and starve them back, because that's who has the money.
That would only work with like-minded politicians. Old Democrats have spent more energy complaining about Mamdani in the past month than Trump's current presidential run.
I actually think that conservative journals like the WSJ have created the appearance that Democrats are anti-Mamdani, in an attempt to "divide and conquer" democrats.
i actually see a surprisingly positive response to Mamdani from democratic movements all across the US.
Hey, I am an old Xer and have come to the realization that the reason we lost last election (other than the cheating but decentralized voting almost always wins over cheating)... is because we listened to those "Never Trump Republicans" and embraced the Cheneys and others. That was exactly the wrong tack. We should have embraced instead the Bernie/AOC and Elizabeth faction. That would have communicated to the people that we actually cared about their life circumstances in this post-Covid, war infected supply chain challenged economy. Let the New Economics/Distributist peeps inform us with some resilient strategies. We are Fucking Tired of the Old Ideas.
This sounds like more of the "socialism never works [because conservatives/capitalists sabotage it]"
Can someone share some insight with us non Americans, how close are you to a civil war? Between the LA protests and this it seems very imminent
It's not even close
It's a "cold" civil war currently. And one side is just submitting and rolling over.
Not very close, despite the online rhetoric. Life continues and our feudal lords play their games.
If things continue to get worse and another lunatic succeeds Trump, I think talk of secession will start to gain more traction in the West. But even then, it would take something really major (and not something the Lemmy politics crowd considers major, but something that actually snaps average liberals out of their comas) to garner enough support for it to actually occur.
Western secession would be an uphill battle; it's just as likely we'd lose an armed conflict with the rest of the country, and an all-out war would be absolutely terrifying.
I mean they’re arresting citizens with brown skin now so not too long before being a democratic registered voter is a crime.
I think people are more pissed off and divided than they have been in a very long time. It's hard to say how close we are to a civil war, though. There's been a lot of propaganda for a long time saying "violence is not the answer" (even though sometimes it is), and "violence has no place in our system of government" (even though the government abuses its own monopoly on violence to imprison and kill innocent, peaceful people).
It feels like the media in the US is less reliable than it's ever been in my lifetime, and would probably suppress as much as possible any information that would support open rebellion.
Not anywhere close, in my opinion. People have these ideas that only right wingers have guns and red state vs. blue state but my conservative relatives who live in the country and hunt are afraid to go to cities. They ask me all the time if I’m nervous living in one and there’s a school bus stop by my house where kids get dropped off.
A related point is that in the last Civil War, there was a somewhat blurry but pretty clear regional divide. Now, it’s an urban vs. rural divide. I live in Orleans Parish (aka county) in Louisiana and we went 82% for Harris/Waltz, roughly the same as Manhattan. I’m pretty sure California had more Trump voters than Texas. If a gun brawl breaks out, it’s going be local and contained.
Also, what’s Meal Team Six gonna do in a real battle? Most Trump voters are like 60+ years old and watch Fox News all day. Nobody wants the smoke.
I am very skeptical of the notion we are anywhere near an actual shooting war despite all the turmoil. Both sides would have waaaay too much to lose, especially red states, which derive huge amounts of funding from blue states (basically, blue states provide federal revenue while red states tend to use it up).
At the moment at least, people have too high a degree of comfort to actually get off their asses and start physically fighting. Things would probably have to get a lot worse before we really see that happen.
He is copying Orbán in Hungary. He also "starved" the capital city because they elected an opposition mayor. The city is near bankruptcy at the moment. But hey, mini Trump also wanted to ban the Pride march there last Saturday, and as a result he made it the biggest mass event of the past 10 years.
So if things happen similarly, Trump might be able to actually do this, but it might just ruin his chances at the next election - provided there will be another one, according to him.
You know what??? NY will survive. We survived prior to the Revolution. We survived after the Revolution and before the Constitution. We will continue this... and honestly, the FEDS do fucking nothing for us and why do they deserve to be paid??? They are fucking loafing political lying fucks. Fuck them and fire them.
ok, taco. can't wait for the day he walks this back and act like he's on top of things
If that happens, time for more mass protests. Surround the White House and stop anyone from entering and leaving until funding to NYC is restored.
I'll be honest they're not working from my perspective. I see them everyday and I see the news the next morning.
Protests and public opinion have already contributed to Musk leaving D.C., which if you ask me is a pretty big accomplishment. And protests aren't usually one and done... It's about building a movement, and that takes time.
I still am laughing at what Wonkette used for their image and headline on how the qons are reacting to Mamdani.. 🤣 🤣 🤣
"Wingnuts Exactly As Calm As You'd Expect Over Mamdani's NYC Primary Win" https://www.wonkette.com/p/wingnuts-exactly-as-calm-as-youd
Billionaires are happy to say people work harder when they're desperate and boy the billionaires are working hard to smear this guy.
This is how the president responds to the democratic process...
I am so glad this guy is scaring the everloving fuck out of the right and the DINOs. I want a legion of folk just like him to run for office in every state and every office so we can sweep away the remnants of the old guard.
I guess they'll have to withhold they're federal taxes to help pay for the shortfall.
How will the federal government move forward if California & New York withhold their federal taxes?
New York & California are the real US's incomes.
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