Did they run up with tears in their eyes? Shouting, "Sir! Sir!"?

I usually call them boards when I can't remember the name "community". There are lots of kinds of community. An instance might well be a community if you are browsing local. Board is shorter and my brain wants to use that word anyway.

That's fair. Guess I was half defensive but also tying the identity party to their overall lack of empathy which is broadcasted all over the rest of their identity as well. Fuck you for caring sort of thing.

I probably could've focused more on the later and less on the former.

I don't need toxic masculinity (or Jesus, guns, or American flags - don't have any of those in my life) to know steak and bacon and hamburgers are freaking delicious and I want to eat them a lot. I enjoy lots of other things, too. It's a rare meal I don't have some kind of meat, but I love crab and fish and chicken as much as red meat.

I suspect the correlation is more that if you can't have empathy for your fellow humans, you damn sure can't for animals. And I've never known a vegan who wasn't driven solely by cruelty to animals.

I don't have anything against vegans, and if the food was tastier than bacon and Ribeyes despite the lack of butter and cheese, I might choose it. But here we are. Maybe vat-grown meat will turn out. I'm not thrilled about how animals are treated, but I'm gonna omnivore.