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[-] DharmaCurious@startrek.website 67 points 1 year ago

Where do I find these dime sized rubies for 20 bucks?

Right? A dime is a touch over 18mm, and prices I’ve been able to nail down on a couple sites for artificial rubies of that size, while way less than terrestrial rubies, cannot be considered ”cheap” - we’re still talking thousands of dollars.

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 year ago

Maybe they mean ruby infused grinding wheels?

https://www.travers.com/product/radiac-ruby-surface-grinding-wheels-71150

Or maybe they were exaggerating a little bit and thinking about ruby bearings.

https://www.renishaw.com/shop/Product.aspx?Product=A-5000-3611

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[-] wahming@monyet.cc 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah, if anybody finds these cheap rubies do let me know, I'd love to buy them

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[-] Evilsmiley@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

https://cascadejewels.com/

I searched lab grown rubies and these guys seem to be pricing near to that cost. They seem legit from a cursory search but i haven't looked that deep.

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[-] DavidGarcia@feddit.nl 64 points 1 year ago

The minority of all people think like this. people love scarcity even if it's completely artificial. It's just so they can show off their "wealth".

The sneaker resale market is the dumbest shit I've ever heard of, yet it's a billions of dollars industry, just because people are dumb like that.

Same reason why De Beers or Luxottica make so much money for seemingly no reason, because people love it.

Moissanite and artifical gems will forever be a knockoff in the eyes if these people.

Diamonds are the NFTs of commodities.

[-] GreenMario@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago

If the "peasants can afford it" it's not desirable.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 year ago

As I understand it the artificial diamond industry has gotten so good, they can now even create diamonds with imperfections that mimic natural diamonds. To the point where the only way they can tell the difference is to micro etch something on the natural diamonds.

[-] DavidGarcia@feddit.nl 6 points 1 year ago

yeah it's ridiculous

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[-] itsonlygeorge@reddthat.com 42 points 1 year ago

Lab grown diamonds/gems are also pure as fuck. Who wouldn’t want that?

No I want my impurities and child labor with my diamonds!

Also, diamonds are worth nothing in a pawn store. The only valuable part of your engagement ring is the gold, which is often not the highest quality anyway.

[-] datelmd5sum@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

That's why I got her a platinum ring with no stones. Much better pawn value.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I love how marketing guys have come up with "the faults prove that it's real leather! Not like that flawless fake stuff!"

[-] MrBusinessMan@lemm.ee 35 points 1 year ago

Well they’re not as valuable because they didn’t have to be dug out the ground. The amount of work that goes into something is what makes it valueable. That’s why I only buy the toughest to reach diamonds from the most brutal mines in Africa, now those are valuable!

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 18 points 1 year ago

The amount of work that goes into something is what makes it valueable

Hello, I'm Tim Cook and let me tell about all the hard work that went into this monitor stand

[-] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 10 points 1 year ago

How many slave children were spent to make each stand?

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[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 year ago

Just realized that was satire, but anyway I already started writing so I'm posting it lol.

Labor theory of value was outdated to centuries ago.

Labor sets a minimum value when stuff is in demand, but without demand the value can be zero despite how much effort was put into it.

[-] MrBusinessMan@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Two* and no, sorry. It’s not my fault you don’t understand what socially necessary labor time is, and hence don’t understand LTV and have mistaken your own ignorance for an argument. You’ll never be a big boss top dog businessman like me with such a feeble understanding.

[-] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

forgot the /s

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 34 points 1 year ago

20 USD for 15 dime-sized rubies? Motherfucker, tell me where!

[-] just_squanch_it@lemmy.one 32 points 1 year ago

Did not know about moissanite, but that is super cool and I'm going to see if I can find some

There are a couple of online retailers that specialize in it. That's what we ended up doing for my wife's engagement ring and wedding band. It noticeably sparkles in direct sun, she gets comments on it pretty often.

[-] just_squanch_it@lemmy.one 12 points 1 year ago

Geez the couple sites I found are still way more expensive that I expected! I'd love to see it in person, it looks way more sparkly

[-] Tar_alcaran@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah, even with a cheap stone, rings are still expensive.

[-] spaysi@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I found my moissanite engagement ring on Etsy for a reasonable price, maybe check there? Lots of small time jewelers list their stuff on the site for really reasonable prices.

[-] just_squanch_it@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago

Oh wow, yeah those can be more in my range, I'll have to learn the grading scale though 😅 thanks a lot!

[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Moissanite can become cloudy if you don't clean it often. And the extra sparkle means people may judge you for having a "fake" ring. Like a polyester suit, people who know can tell by how bright it is.

Lab gems are relatively cheap and look exactly like the "real" ones. I mean exactly the same. People would only know it's a lab diamond if you had a ring the size of Elizabeth Taylor's at Applebee's.

Rarecarat and Ritani have some good prices.

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[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

My wife lost her engagement ring and wedding band recently. Might have to look into this as a replacement.

[-] noseatbelt@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 year ago

I'm trying to disabuse my husband of the notion that moissanite looks “fake” because of its refractory properties. I just like the sparkles, I'm not trying to pass it off as a diamond. It's an entirely different stone.

[-] darkmatterstyx@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I love the sparkle of my Moissanites so much better than my diamonds.

[-] uis@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

I like last comment. And suddenly it doesn't counts.

[-] xantoxis@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

If you actually turned lead into gold it would still only be worth as much as lead. (Also the global gold market would collapse into dust, so that would have some consequences.)

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

Something like this actually happened. There was a super rare element that was shiny and light weight and incredibly rare. They made the crown jewels of France out of it so the King could show off the wealth of the country to everyone by having this unique and rare element in his crown.

Then they discovered a chemical process to extract this incredibly rare element from bauxite.

Now we make pop cans out of it. Yep, aluminum was at one time a precious metal.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

also the global gold market would collapse into dust

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

Cheap and plentiful gold would be a boon for a lot of applications that require resistance to water corrosion, so even after the initial collapse, its price would slowly creep up again.

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[-] dabu@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

How do I find these lab grown minerals? Where can I buy them? I'm in EU

A lot of jewelry boutiques sell both these days. When I bought an engagement ring, most places I looked have both lab grown and mined diamonds as options when you pick a diamond for the ring.

Most reputable dealers claim to have cruelty-free sources, but synthetic diamonds were about half the price, so I still think buying mined diamonds is a bit silly.

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[-] Erika2rsis 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This happens sometimes for me too. You can try opening it in browser, but I'll write a transcription for our screen-reader-using friends, too.

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tlirsgender | Nov 6, 2020

Weird peeve time. Calling lab grown gemstones "fake" is stupid because it's the same shit just not formed naturally. An artificially grown diamond is the same shit as a natural diamond it is the exact same material bro it's all fuckign carbon


spacefroggity | 45m ago

It's carbon it's pretty and it didn't involve slave labor what's not to love??? Hi I'm having geology opinions tonight apparently. And I'm right


spacefroggity | 45m ago

There is so much bullshit in the diamonds industry to be mad about tbh. It also ties into the bullshit of the wedding industry as a whole but we don't have the time to unpack all that


val-ritz | Nov 29, 2020

not even going to lie, the day i learned i could get like 15 lab grown rubies the size of dimes for $20 is the day i spent $20 on rubies, and i have never once said to myself "man, i wish this cost $1,600 and the lives of eight children to produce


fuckyeahmineralogy | Dec 8, 2020

We are a pro-lab-grown mineral blog here, not only is it massively cheaper but massively more ethical as well in many cases.


thegreenpea | Mar 8, 2021

another very cool lab grown gem is Moissanite. It has a 9.25 on the mohs hardness scale where diamond is a 10. Moissanote also has a 2.69 refractive index in comparison to diamond's 2.419 and here is the difference

Diamond on left and moissanite on right: moissanite's refraction consists of long, thin beams almost in rainbow colors, whereas diamond's refraction has shorter, thicker, whitish beams

and the best thing about moissanite? It is all lab grown and it costs only a fraction of what diamond costs. So fuck the diamond indsutry and buy lab grown gems which cost significantly less


rubixpsyche | Aug 6, 2021

Also it's just cool to think of some mad scientist lookin person doing shit against the law of the universe and making pretty gems for you. Like cmon. This shouldnt be allowed probably. But humans really be like on gOD i want some shiny an just started MAKIN em


dadzathechaosgod | 46m ago

for years people wanted alchemy, well now we have alchemy and we're making gemstones out of it and suddenly "it doesn't count" anymore

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

Thank you. I wouldn't have been able to describe the image as well.

[-] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Doing fine work there.

While this picture does load for me, I also frequently run into those that don't on Connect for Lemme. I'm not tech savvy, but I suspect it's related to different instances or something like that.

[-] Erika2rsis 5 points 1 year ago

For me, when a picture doesn't load on my Lemmy app (Liftoff), if I go back to the post about an hour or so later, it loads just fine. And as said, clicking on "view post in browser", then the picture will load just fine there, too. So it's a really weird problem that in my impression is specific to Lemmy apps.

[-] Laticauda@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

For me viewing on browser doesn't seem to work either. Idk if it's the app I use or something else.

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[-] JetpackJackson@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

It loads for me, that's weird

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