16-year-old seduces adult nazi to shoot him in the woods during military occupation is slightly less family friendly than Spiderman, at least from what I remember about Spiderman
At least, it would have been a nice side plot in "Inglorious Basterds".
Oooh, a reference to her, even in passing, would've been neat.
"The Nazi bastards are on high alert. Soldiers keep going into the woods to bang some broad and end up banged themselves. Stupid fuckers keep going out there. I guess their dicks override orders"
I would argue that it is very family friendly if you aren't a Nazi.
still not exactly the kind of lesson most parents are trying to get into when taking young children to the movies… like no doubt you’re right. But it’s a time and place thing not a is this lesson worth teaching thing.
Not if she says, "For Uncle Ben!" before pulling the trigger.
Why do movies have to be family friendly? I know that was the comparison, but there are so many movies meant only for adults that deal with war. Why not have a war movie with a female protagonist?
They'd much rather you follow the legendary tales of Batman whose complex moral dilemma hinges upon not directly getting blood on his own hands even if it means keeping mass murderers alive to continue to terrorize the population.
Batman as a superhero is basically a libertarian wet dream: a defense contractor billionaire who may be complicit in all forms of mass violence but maintains the thinnest veneer of plausible deniability personally.
What's hilarious is even in most of the fiction the libertarian wet dream of Gotham is a dystopian shit hole.
There've been Batman comics where he admits that he knows he could do so much more to improve Gotham than by beating up criminals but he's fundamentally broken (to the point where he considers Bruce Wayne to be the alter ego of Batman rather than the other way around), so he just keeps punching things.
Yeah but like, he doesn't do anything with that revelation. Realizing you're part of the problem is only the first step, you have to actually follow through with more steps after that.
Too many different writers. Too many different ideas. If you take an established super hero character in too far any direction, you risk pissing off the fans. Really, you just shouldn't be making adult stories with these characters because the moral dilemma start breaking down. Just be glad the editors didn't let Frank Miller make Holy Terror about Batman like he originally wanted.
I feel like Nolan's Batman actually has moral dilemmas beyond the no killing rule.
In Batman Begins, you can clearly see he doesn't even like living as Bruce Wayne. When he sees his childhood friend Rachel and says "this is not all that I am. Inside, I am more..." or whatever he said, you could tell he felt embarrassed about flexing his billionaire lifestyle, which he was only doing because Bruce Wayne needed to occasionally be visible in society, otherwise things would get suspicious.
He clearly realized that A) Law Enforcement and the DA's office needed a lot of help in Gotham and B) He needed to help them arrest and prosecute people legally, rather than having himself, one rich dude, be judge, jury and executioner. This is why he cooperated with Jim Gordon
In cases of particularly dangerous people like Ra's Al Ghul, he committed manslaughter, potentially murder, because he knew they'd endanger more people otherwise. At the same time, I think he realized Ra's Al Ghul had a bit of a point, that the rich and powerful had fucked Gotham up so bad it would almost be best to destroy it altogether. Still, he can't agree with it because even letting it happen would mean the blood of millions of people on his hands.
While he's doing a lot as Batman, the Wayne foundation is trying to actually improve society - and while this is feeding into the old libertarian narrative that individuals doing charity is better than government spending to improve society, it becomes clear to him at some point that this is not really working either.
Because she's a revolutionary, and Batman is a billionaire defending the status quo. You can't have people being inspired into revolution.
A few days ago Margot Friedländer died at 103. Her entire closer family died in the holocaust after the USA, China and Brasil denied then immigration visa. She, as a teenager, was able to hide for quite a while but was finally ratted out by a jewish Gestapo spy and deported to a concentration camp. She met her future husband in the KZ and immigranted to New York later on, living a regular life until her husband died in 1997. She then started to write and moved back to Germany in 2010 (as a 89 year old!) and visites countless schools to talk about her experiences with the students and received countless medals, prices and acclaim. She was pictured on the German Vogue magazine in 2024 and later on continued her speeches until two days before her dead - her last speech was at the celebrations for the end of the WW2 in Germany.
We need more motion pictures about people like her. Not about another billionaire superhero who is unable to work in a team to save the world.
Because she was real. And much more powerful. I had the honour to attend a event she spoke.
I would watch the ever loving hell out of an HBO series about this woman. They would make fucking millions too, and people would learn about a real hero. Triple W
Yeah. Make a fucking series about them. There are more than enough people that have a powerful story that is real, not fake, and who defied danger much more than any Superhero did.
Besides: They are incredibly powerful role models. Remember how many young woman admired Daenerys when GoT was popular?
Fritz and Hedwig Aub come to my mind - they supported hidden jews all over Berlin (Fritz was a doctor), often sacrificing their own food rations for them and were almost caught multiple times. Cläre Barwitzky saved 30 jewish kids in France. Lepa Radić was executed at age 17 by German troops after fighting as a partisan, refusing to give up her comrades name under torture.Before that she escaped a KZ like prison at age 15.
We need to make real world examples like Margot and all the others.
There are countless similar people. The Danish resistance who saved most Danish jews. The Italian partisans who fought both their own Fascism and the Germans. The French resistance. The Polish resistance had people who intentionally let themselves imprison in KZ, including Auschwitz, and escaped from there.
These stories need to be told. Which brings me back to Margot - she came back to Germany because she could remember that there were people that helped her, despite the consequences. That not all people were evil and that there is always something one can do to resist. Which is a message she found more important now than ever before.
Hard to draw out repeatedly flirting with nazis and killing them
The movie would suck as they try to tie in a love interest and plot
There’s plenty to go on. It’s not like they had no life except flirting with and executing nazis.
Excerpt from the wp page:
During World War II, the Oversteegen family hid a Jewish couple in their home.[3] Freddie Oversteegen and her older sister Truus began handing out anti-Nazi pamphlets, which attracted the notice of HaarlemCouncil of Resistance commander Frans van der Wiel. With their mother's permission, the girls joined the Council of Resistance, which brought them into a coordinated effort.[2]Freddie was fourteen years old at the time.[3][4]
Oversteegen, her sister, and friend Hannie Schaft worked to sabotage the Nazi military presence in the Netherlands.[5] They used dynamite to disable bridges and railroad tracks.[6] They also smuggled Jewish children out of the country or helped them escape concentration camps.[2]
The Oversteegens and Schaft also killed German soldiers, with Freddie being the first of the girls to kill a soldier by shooting him while riding her bicycle.[1][5] They also lured soldiers to the woods under the pretense of a romantic overture and then killed them.[1][5]Oversteegen would approach the soldiers in taverns and bars and ask them to "go for a stroll" in the forest.[2][5]
Hard to draw out repeatedly flirting with nazis and killing them
Would you need to? Watching someone repeatedly kill stupid horny nazis doesn't seem like it would get old.
Because the superhero movies are thinly veiled propaganda for billionaire exceptionalism. Empowering the average person is disruptive to your peasant caste you're not allowed to talk about openly. It is such an engrained cultural taboo you can't even register what I am saying as real, despite it being so obvious that there are classes of people completely disassociated with life as you know and live it. The only exceptional people are the exceptionally greedy and exceptionally unethical. Ms. Oversteegen is a hero like Luigi, someone that stands above our station in life. Such stories are not told or popularized much at all.
This is the type of hero we need in modern times. Sadly, she would be the wrong gender for most of the MAGA politicians.
Also, being an adult would turn the majority of them off
If i remember correctly she first killed a German officer at 16 or 17, though that might ~~false~~ urban legend
Still too old for most gop
I want Quintin Tarantino to work with the people who made the 2011 Hanna movie.
Instead of Christoph Waltz finding and killing Jews, it’s a demon child finding and killing Nazis.
Americans can't handle a bare nipple. That's the reason.
That'd be actual history porn.
Actually, that'd probably hit all the right notes for some people. It's historical, so they can pretend they're watching it to learn something. It's 'female empowerment' at a certain angle, so they can pretend they're watching it for the feminism. It's anti-nazi, so they can feel righteous about the violence, especially the Americans. With all that going, people could watch it 'for the plot' again and again.
There is https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Girl_with_the_Red_Hair_(film) about her friend Hannie Schaft.
The face that shot a hundred Nazis.
Quentin Tarantino were the heck are you with this?!?!
He couldn't think of a way to fit a scene focused entirely on the protagonist's feet into the story.
It's not a movie because the wealthy don't want people getting ideas.
She's like Dexter, the best kind of serial killer
Good advice for anyone interested in fighting fascism really.
Teaching us how to handle incels for 80 years. RIP.
Now that's a war hero.
According to IMDb, it's in preproduction. I'm not sure how accurate it is, but it lists the director and writers.
The Red Head https://www.imdb.com/title/tt29931730/
The story of three young girls in World War II, Hannie Schaft, Truus and Freddie Oversteegen, who are inducted into the Dutch resistance to assassinate Nazis and Nazi collaborators.
Must everything be turned into a Hollywood moneymaker?
I get what you're saying. And I get that movies only get made if they make money. However, things like this need to be brought to younger generations. People have forgotten too much generation to generation. The most insane of us have inherited it from their fathers. Hatred that bides its time until it can masquerade as order. Every generation needs to know why and what the generations previously fought hard for. So, let's just keep making movies. In a thousand years someone might find a way to access an archive and ignite (yet another) fight for simple freedom.
Directed by Quentin Tarantino.
since when would murican movie industry care? there will be no luigi movie either.
He will get a musical though it seems
Cause people with money tend to side with Hitler types.
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