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[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 157 points 3 weeks ago

"It's good, but we can't market it. If you were already famous in some other way so we could sell based on that, we would buy it."

Could have phrased it better, but I kinda get it.

[-] rockerface@lemm.ee 132 points 3 weeks ago

"It's good, but we're bad at actually selling books so we need you to be famous in another unrelated way to compensate for our incompetence"

FTFY

[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 43 points 3 weeks ago

At least they know their failings and wont waste the authors time.

[-] tempest@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 weeks ago

"they" don't though. The low level employee/intern who read it might but that entire industry is up its own ass smelling it's own farts at the top.

[-] BoulevardBlvd 7 points 3 weeks ago

No you didn't. People don't buy the memoirs of random people. The publisher can move heaven and Earth but people still wouldn't change the fact that the audience will never exist

[-] Nefara@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Sure they do, all the time, as long as it's an interesting story.

More than half of the books on this list are by "random" ie, non famous people.

[-] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

Who said anything about memoirs? The thing about "the memoirs of random people" is not that they were written by non-famous people - it's that they are about non-famous people.

[-] tempest@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

Remember Oprah and a million little pieces. I'm pretty sure that guy was a complete unknown before he made that shit up.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 29 points 3 weeks ago

"We won't publish you until you've been published"

Think about it

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 days ago

applies to the job market too

[-] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

I thought this was an entry level publishing

[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago

You can be other kinds of famous. An athlete, youtuber, etc. Even if youre trying to sell speculative fiction, some traction somewhere helps the process.

But yeah, it's shitty. It's really hard to make any money writing now.

[-] meeeeetch@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

So you run it by James Paterson, Inc. (or the estate of Tom Clancy or whoever fits best) get his name above yours and now you're contracted to release new novels at an absolutely breakneck pace,, but you have your foot in the door and can become the more famous writer who can release their own novels.

[-] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

I would've thought "finding fresh talent" is something that publishers do out of self-interest, but I guess I'm wrong.

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 days ago

this assumes the industry is vaguely competent and capable of critical thinking

[-] argh_another_username@lemmy.ca 61 points 3 weeks ago

I can’t have a job because I don’t have enough experience. I don’t have experience because I don’t have a job.

[-] Coolbeanschilly@lemmy.ca 24 points 3 weeks ago

You're supposed to devote yourself to a year long unpaid internship. Bills? Who cares, you have to live like a slave.

[-] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 16 points 3 weeks ago

"Bills? Who cares, you have to live like a slave."

Don't be silly. No-one is expecting you to live like a slave in order to do an unpaid internship — that would hardly be conducive to outputting good work anyway.

No, no — obviously you're meant to rely on your family's wealth.

Oh, you don't have family wealth to rely on? Okay, well the simple solution is to just not do the unpaid internship if you can't afford it. And if that means you aren't able to secure a paid position, due to lack of experience, then that just shows that the system works! After all, we have to keep the riff-raff out somehow

[-] BoulevardBlvd 1 points 3 weeks ago

It's more like walking into Google the day after your high school graduation and asking to be the CEO. I'm sure he could have been published if he tried to publish something people wanted to read. there's barely an audience for the memoirs of real people that isn't just money laundering. Literally no one would buy it if they published it

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 days ago

a completely uneducated person would probably be a better CEO since they won't be able to commit massive fraud, and thus the company is left with more funds

[-] benignintervention@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

Is this about a memoir? I think I'm missing context

[-] frezik@midwest.social 43 points 3 weeks ago

Was it an autobiography?

[-] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 26 points 3 weeks ago

Book publishers have become so risk adverse that they really do only established stuff then they have a limit for everything else. It’s hard to even get established stuff translated from other countries.

Given the extremely tiny cost of digital distribution, I think this would be reason enough to never even bother talking to "publishers."

[-] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 5 points 3 weeks ago

Sure but if you wanted to do it as a career, you’d need them.

[-] flango@lemmy.eco.br 19 points 3 weeks ago

The book selling business is killing books. It's so expensive to buy a new book today that I don't even bother looking. Long live the old books stores and public libraries!

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 10 points 3 weeks ago

This is what ghost writing is for. The publisher just slaps “Peter Andre” on the cover, the readers get to do “Leo-pointing-at-the-television”, everybody wins.

[-] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 weeks ago

What's especially dumb about this is that Tom is an excellent writer. Villager is wonderful.

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

He's talking about his friend who is trying to get started, not himself

[-] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 weeks ago

So he is. It's been a long day...

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