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[-] Allonzee@lemmy.world 115 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

At least we never went socialist.

That will provide me a lot of comfort when the Fascists brutally murder me and my family for our dissent. At least they weren't filthy socialists that tried to feed, cloth, or house anyone without condition. What a nightmare hellscape that would have been.

[-] ksigley@lemm.ee 27 points 6 days ago

I'm sensing insincerity in this statement.

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[-] nuko147@lemm.ee 39 points 5 days ago
[-] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

Maybe Elrond should have voted against the ring.

[-] BigBenis@lemmy.world 73 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It's interesting how when the Democrats are in power they struggle to get legislation across the line, get "outraged" when Republicans stymie their efforts, and eventually agree to cut bills down to the point where they're achieving a fraction of what they were supposed to.

But when Republicans are in power, Dems seem incapable of putting up any resistance and cry to their voters that if only they just had a few more donation dollars they'd be able to defeat fascism and then turn around and let the Republicans pass whatever awful legislation they want.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago

Their opposition is purely performative.

[-] FilthyHookerSpit@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago

Ranked choice voting would help big time. But neither party will ever allow it.

[-] rational_lib@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Ranked choice voting already exists in several local and state races, most recently DC. It's mostly blue states, because Democrats tend to allow it. Several Republican states have legislation banning it statewide, but such laws are entirely absent in blue states.

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[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

It only takes a few corrupt Democrats to turn a plain majority into a stalemate.

[-] RymrgandsDaughter 12 points 6 days ago

Controlled ops, and Dem leaders are Republicans

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[-] Casteyes@lemmy.world 60 points 6 days ago

I've said it once and I'll say it again … a large portion of the current democratic party is rich. The DNC serves corporations not the people. They are controlled opposition. They will keep the status quo as long as they get to continue living their cushy lifestyle. The whole system is corrupt and that includes the DNC, they won’t be saving us.

[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago

I’ve noticed the financially conservative bias of a certain minority of the Democrats, which I think you could term “corruption”. I’d say even a lot of them would prefer Americans at least be able to get by on a living wage; hence why blue states have a higher minimum.

I could be missing information you’ve found past me, but what statistics have helped you conclude a “large portion” of them are rich / serving corporations?

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[-] rational_lib@lemmy.world 39 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

"Liberals will win majority of the Wisconsin Supreme Court, CNN projects"

The one on the right should be "Edgelord leftists posting on Lemmy"

I mean I'm not gonna deny that some like Schumer have been totally useless. But over the last few months "liberals doing nothing" has included halving Tesla's stock price and winning the Supreme Court in a state that went Trump. In prediction markets future races are looking bad for Republicans. Don't like what democrats are doing? Great, go run or support a candidate you do like. Or better yet, run as a Republican and do a hostile takeover of that party so you can challenge democrats from the left in the general too. There's enough anger at Republicans now that it could actually work, especially in safe blue districts.

[-] Bloomcole@lemm.ee 22 points 6 days ago

None of these things are lib achievements.

[-] Fredthefishlord 10 points 6 days ago

Libs are the ones who were holding tesla stock. Libs were buying teslas. It is absolutely is a lib achievement

[-] Bloomcole@lemm.ee 12 points 6 days ago

They're burning their own cars?
A Tesla is a shit car, it can not compete without protectionism and would lose hard against superior Chinese cars anyway without massive protectionism.
Tesla stocks isn't even at its lowest point.
https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/TSLA/tesla/stock-price-history

Even if it was, what would it have 'achieved'? It won't even hurt Musk personally.
As if he would care about a few billion less.
He has other companies and many gov defense contracts to help terrorise the world. Plenty of them made under your great lib gov.
I guess he was still OK when he demanded to keep his factories open in peak covid times or when he did plenty of other horrible things?

[-] TronBronson@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

Ewan has been on television crying about Tesla stock every six hours for the past two weeks.

They are using the full force of the United States government to protect Tesla dealerships.

is obviously not doing OK with this. His creditors on Twitter just made him combine it with his AI company so he’s basically losing that to the bank too.

we’re off to a great start. And it’s just getting started.

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[-] Podunk@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago

Dems biggest problem has never been results. They have done that. Time and time again. Fix the economy. Solve unemployment. Shot the steal. Whatever it is. They have actually done it each time.

But i have never seen a group that has been so mindblowingly incompetent at messaging.

Take some fucking credit you dipshits!

Seriously. Biden did almost everything we asked him to do. But the party never took credit or bragged about it enough. So much so that despite accomplishing the status quo, he still came across as a loser and lost the election for his incumbent.

They did what we asked. But we were too timid or pc to take the fucking credit! we lost because of some semblance of decorum or some other nonsense.

Brag about it you pussy ass bitches!

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[-] aviationeast@lemmy.world 80 points 6 days ago

So does Pokémon canonical have Jesus being nailed on the cross? Maybe it was Mew the only son of Arcaues? Would make Mewtwo the Antichrist?

[-] HarkMahlberg@kbin.earth 33 points 6 days ago

Pre-Porygon episode Pokemon is a fucking trip

[-] gamer@lemm.ee 24 points 6 days ago

I remember there was an episode where someone pulls out an actual gun, meaning Pal World is probably more canon than people realize.

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[-] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 65 points 6 days ago

Whenever I see posts like this, my question is: What constitutes "something?"

Democrats vote against all the Republican bills.

Cory Booker is filibustering a bunch of judicial appointments.

They're banging the drum about how horrible everything Trump is doing is.

They support the suits and the protests.

What do you want? It seems like people just want to complain about the Democrats regardless of the realities of the situation.

[-] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 65 points 6 days ago

Democrats vote against all the Republican bills

If this were even true (what was Schumer in hot water over again?), what the fuck does 'voting against republican bills' do when the black-shirts are already rounding up immigrants?

Democrats can't run around screaming about the end of democracy for 8 years and then wax romantic about the need for 'bipartisanship' when they're starting to line people up against the wall.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 27 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I remember Kamala and Mike Johnson being all smiles on Inauguration Day.

[-] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 14 points 6 days ago

Okay then, I repeat: what should they be doing?

[-] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 6 days ago

Well they sure as fuck shouldn't be capitulating to the fascists

I would expect that someone who really thinks we're at the end of democracy would be (at the very least) breaking decorum to derail the fascism machine before it picks up steam, not censuring their own colleagues for loudly defending what they all presumably believe in.

"What else could they possibly be doing?!" they cry, as ICE agents are pushing legal permanent residents into black vans and flying them to a prison in El Salvador for exercising their 1st amendment rights.

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[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)
  1. Replace Schumer and Jeffries as congressional leaders, and make it publicly known it’s because of capitulation to fascism.
  2. Filibuster every fucking thing. Zero legislative victories, no matter how minor.
  3. Dredge up every scandal against every Republican, go on every podcast and every news show and put them on blast. Make sure there are a personal and professional consequences for supporting fascism.

They are not powerless. They just have to fight dirty, which they should damn well be willing to do after watching the government get plundered for the last three months.

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[-] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 14 points 6 days ago

THIS is what a politician fighting to stop fascism looks like.

Not a press conference, not ‘barricading’ the door before meekly letting the DOGE lakeys in after they call the DC police, not Chuck fucking Schumer folding to Trump’s budget demands after the House stood tall and members in D+1 districts risked their position.

It’s still politics as usual for most of the leadership. Not ‘the fight to save our democracy’ like they campaigned and fundraised on.

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[-] boolean_sledgehammer@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

I want a democratic party that is as fully willing to ratfuck and obstruct all conservative efforts as the republicans have been for decades.

I want them to stop attempting to "reach across the aisle" to an enemy faction that would never be willing to do the same.

I want them to vote 100% against every single human garbage dump nominee that Trump puts in front of them.

I want them to have state police ready to clap the cuffs on Elon Musk as soon as her enters a state where he has broken the law.

I want them to stop playing defense and to start attacking for once, and I want them to do this as a unified front.

I want representatives that are willing to pull some South Korean shit and kick down doors on unelected DOGE stooges flinging shit inside our vital institutions.

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[-] pjwestin@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

1- If Democrats had voted against all Republican bills, we'd be in a shutdown right now.

2- Booker's filibuster is good. There were also many, many options available to Democrats early in the confirmation process that they chose not to take. For example, if they demanded unanimous consent on every procedure, a roll call roll vote would be required to move anything forward. They could file deleterious motions constantly to slow everything down. McConnell successfully used these tactics just a few months ago to force Schumer cut a deal on judicial appointments at the end of the last Congress.

3- The suits are being brought by Democratic Attorneys General, who have been killing it. They remember how dangerous Trump was and prepared accordingly. The national Democrats, however, clearly had no plan other than, "Kamala will win," and didn't adapt at all in the months between the election and the inauguration.

Chuck Schumer is the poster boy for this shortsightedness. The only possible explanation for his actions on the budget bill is that he assumed at least a few House Republicans would defect and the bill wouldn't reach the Senate. When that didn't happen, he had to suddenly decided between funding the government, which would a terrible move since (aside from being an awful bill) every House Democrat had just stuck their neck out to try to shoot it down, or defunding the government, which had its own risks, but it's own benefits as well. Not only did he make the wrong choice, but he made it so abruptly he threw his entire party into chaos.

4- All of this is indicative of a party that is working from an out of date playbook that is hopeless obsolete in the face of fascism. Schumer and James Carvil started the term by telling Democrats to lay low and wait for Trump to screw up. Jefferies was advocating for bipartisanship for the fiest two months of the administration. The general consensus is that the legislative branch is completely helpless, and they simply need to wait for the courts to save us.

None of this will work. The Trump administration's fuck-ups don't matter if they're not planning on holding free and fair elections. Bipartisanship has been dead for almost 20 years. Court rulings won't save us; Trump is already defying court orders, and the Supreme Court has been pack with regime loyalists. Some Senators, like Booker, seem to be waking up to these realities, but the entire Democratic party needs to be looking to every single opportunity to slow and obstruct the Trump regime, and the leadership is not doing that.

Defeating the Trump administration will require widespread public mobilization and and an opposition party that's ready to play hardball. The Democratiic leadership seems to content with only doing the first half, and fundraising in lieu of opposition. That's going to get us all killed.

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[-] match@pawb.social 39 points 6 days ago

cory booker is, at the time I'm writing, filibustering the senate and preventing any actions by the fascist-controlled Congress

if he continues for 30,000 hours, the trump administration will be over and he'll have singlehandedly saved what's left of democracy. that would be unlikely, but, maybe it wouldn't be hard for 30000 people to slow down fascism by one hour each. or 2 million people to slow fascism down by a minute.

[-] DeusUmbra@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

I purchased a gun before Trump took office and have been practicing at the range, as well as encouraging everyone I know to do the same. Arm yourself and prepare, this only ends one way.

[-] TheKingBee@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

Unless your practicing in a group and developing tactics, you're right it does only end one way.

I don't know how many armed people are coming, but if you're alone I do know how it ends...

[-] clunkplunk@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

I too am a recent gun owner. I agree that preparation is necessary, but I disagree that it only ends one way. I will advocate for peaceful means of resistance until they are no longer possible. Have hope in the face of our enemies!

[-] DeusUmbra@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

The enemy is fascism, and fascists are only dealt with one way. Protesting does nothing against Nazis, especially peaceful protests, it just gives them easy targets. We tried protest, negotiation, appeasement, and more when it came to Hitler and his Nazis, and only One Thing worked to get rid of them. Prepare, organize, and fight back against the fascists.

[-] adub@programming.dev 12 points 5 days ago

Destroy the country to "own the libs". What a world and they wanted this so they can make memes instead of trying to do anything.

[-] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 25 points 6 days ago

Can do the exact same thing with "progressives" that don't vote.

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[-] dota__2@lemmy.world 26 points 6 days ago

any even remotely law abiding politician(read american "left" wing) is kinda hamstrung with the current state of affairs.

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

That's where collaboration with a fundamentally oppressive system gets you.

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[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 17 points 6 days ago

I'm glad this troll bait crap is barely working, but it's working a little. Come on guys, don't be a stooge:

“Once we isolate key people, we look for people we know are in their upstream – people that they read posts from, but who themselves are less influential. We then either start flame wars with bots to derail the conversations that are influencing influential people, or else send off specific tasks for sockpuppets (changing this wording of an idea here; cause an ideological split there; etc).”

The goal is to keep opinions we don't want fragmented and from coalescing in to a single voice for long enough that the memes we do want can,...

https://archive.is/PoUMo

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[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 6 days ago

The liberal version of resisting fascism is quiet collaboration.

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