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[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 210 points 1 month ago

I am absolutely disgusted by this. Basically they are saying they intentionally and knowingly manipulated Palestinian Americans and pro-Palestinians into allowing a Trump victory and the doubling up of the growing threat of a trans, queer and POC genocide among much more violence.

You may have different opinions from me about the third party voters and the culpability they carry, but I hope we all can agree that Jason Call and company here are blatantly evil and have blood on their hands.

Hoping this can be a moment of reactionary leftist unity. Fuck every leader who actively worked towards MAGA. I’m doing my best to organize and do damage control, but not because some dumbass Jill Stein employee told me to. You should too.

[-] gi1242@lemmy.world 53 points 1 month ago

honestly, I have this nagging feeling that stein only runs to deliberately split the democratic vote. she knows exactly trumps position on Gaza, facism and capitalism. and she looks the other way either for personal gain, or because she supports trumps positions

[-] Freefall@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago

She has been to many GOP backed events. It has been known for quite a while that she is run as a spoiler.

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

i don’t thing it has to be a nagging feeling even :/ i think this tweet basically proves it

i mean he basically says “yeah we did this so trump would win”

like yeah it’s with veiled language but only about as veiled as musk’s “my heart goes out to you”

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[-] carotte 166 points 1 month ago
[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Okay, that’s is succinctly profound.

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[-] hardcoreufo@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

I think it's also the unwillingness of the left to accept "baby steps" towards a goal. The right is perfectly happy to inch towards their endgame and it's working.

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[-] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 119 points 1 month ago

"Were going to not elect genocide by electing ultra-genocide!"

🤔

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[-] Zahtu@feddit.org 88 points 1 month ago

Remember, when the social democratic Part (SPD) and communist Party (KPD) of late Weimar republic Germany enabled the fascist government of Hitlers NSDAP in 1933. All because they were too focused on fighting each other, thinking that after Hitler, who is sure to fail, they will get greater voter turnout in their respective favor? Yeah, this here has the same vibes.

Spoiler: they did not get their turn or voter turnout because there was no longer a German democratic state (just to make sure us-americans not well-versed in international history understand)

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[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 84 points 1 month ago

I don't remember hearing any Dems talking about turning Gaza into a beach resort after they purge the locals.

[-] thesven@lemm.ee 18 points 1 month ago

They didn't say it out loud, but they allowed the Israeli government to bomb the shit out of Gaza.

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 49 points 1 month ago
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[-] thann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 79 points 1 month ago

If a protest could work under trump why wouldn't it work under Harris?

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 76 points 1 month ago

☐ Genocide and things stay pretty much the same

☐ Extra genocide and things get worse

☐ Waste vote (get extra genocide anyway)

"Democracy"

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

Its almost like money and first past the post elections only serve to narrow down political options.

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[-] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 64 points 1 month ago

You're right asshat, we didn't "re-elect genocide", we (see: your bitch ass) accelerated it. I don't fucking remember Kamala telling us Gaza was going to be a resort and all Palestinians would never be allowed to return.

Man, it's almost like I was right about all those 3rd party fucks that wouldn't admit they supported Trump and didn't actually care about the people in Gaza.

[-] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 month ago

Not only did they accelerate the genocide in Palestine, they started genocide in the US

[-] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 63 points 1 month ago

I can only interpret this message as accelerationist self-hatred. "No you don't get it, we need to burn the country to the ground and have millions die to make our anticapitalist woo woo utopia!"

I guess it makes sense if you're a Russian asset.

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[-] Placebonickname@lemmy.world 60 points 1 month ago

Even before this I didn’t think Jill Stein was qualified, now I think her supporters are nutz

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 21 points 1 month ago

this was actually new to me, idk why. literally before today i was aware of the sentiment around stein but never felt i had enough information to come down either way.

i guess now i know :(

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[-] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 54 points 1 month ago
[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 50 points 1 month ago

We intentionally picked the worst thing because it’s the only way to burn civilization to the ground!

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[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 50 points 1 month ago

Whoa, either they're incredibly unaware of the recent news in Gaza or this is quite mask off about their side and goals. "the moral stain of reelecting genocide"? Give me a fucking break, the conflict was self-resolving right before Trump's inauguration. Now he's fanning the flames.

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[-] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 44 points 1 month ago

I'd take that as a confession to being complicit whenever we get to the US equivalent of the Nuremberg trials.

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[-] leadore@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago

Russian stooge says what?

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 41 points 1 month ago

People should be free to vote for who best represents them while still counting their vote if their preference didn't win.

Passing state level electoral reform will not only empower the creation of stronger 3rd parties, but also force the legacy political parties to have to compete and actually represent people.

No more safe seats, no more hostage situation, no more voting while holding our noses, only democracy. More democracy was always going to be the solution to this problem. Who could possibly be against more democracy?

Videos on Electoral Reform

First Past The Post voting (What most states use now)

Videos on alternative electoral systems we can try out.

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[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago

Hey, look, it's [90% of the people I argued with on Lemmy before election day]!

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[-] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 month ago

Holy shit what a dumb take

[-] manucode@infosec.pub 27 points 1 month ago

Accelerationism will never work. Whenever there's a crisis, the poor will suffer and the rich will escape.

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[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

It’s hard to tell from just this one tweet, but this guy seems like he is actively trying to out-stupid trump.

[-] Hawanja@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

The Green party is fucking worthless.

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[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

Trump literally wants to remove 2 million Palestinians, the literal definition of genocide. So how's that going Jill Stein and protest non voters?

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[-] Nougat@fedia.io 25 points 1 month ago

"I refuse to believe that leopards are eating my face."

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 25 points 1 month ago

No. I appreciate the sentiment but don’t even give this guy that sardonic out. “I want you all to let the leopards to eat your face. I want you to be happy with it.” That’s what he’s saying.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 25 points 1 month ago

"Yeah Trump is bad, but we can fight him from the underground we're forced to occupy by the threat of execution or exile, but just imagine the moral bad fee fees we'd have to endure if we elected Kamala! That would be worse!"

JFC....

Earth calling nutjob, Earth calling nutjob do you copy? Don't come back. Stay up there.

[-] turbulentMagma@lemm.ee 25 points 1 month ago

What about the moral stain of ethnic cleansing?

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[-] Sputnik34@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

Legit 0 IQ take, holy shit

[-] noxypaws@pawb.social 22 points 1 month ago

Fuck Jill Stein and every additional piece of shit who promotes her.

Watch this hour long interview Mehdi Hasan did with her. She's fucking horrible and I'm glad the finest interviewer of our time got an hour to push her on her bullshit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIcZkqf9GRo

[-] garth@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I don't think mutual aid and civil disobedience is going to stop things like the $7.4B arms sale to Israel that was announced earlier this week. But surely that is part of this acceptable compromise the Greens made?

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[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Tell me for what other reason does a "Green Party" fringe candidate from America fraternize with a round table consisting of the likes of Michael Flynn, Vladimir Putin, and Dmitry Peskov in Moscow? Lmao. Suckers.

I and many others have been calling out Stein's bullshit for well over a decade.

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 month ago

Lol is this real? I've never seen a real person make that argument.

I assume they are just not-so-secretly endorsing Trump. Like, nobody is that dumb.

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