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I don't remember hearing any Dems talking about turning Gaza into a beach resort after they purge the locals.
They didn't say it out loud, but they allowed the Israeli government to bomb the shit out of Gaza.
Trump said it out loud.
Act matter much more than word
If you honestly believed he wouldn't act when he was back in power you need to have your head examined.
As much as it might displease you the fact is since Trump has won Israël Palestine have truced and civilian are not longer dying on a daily basiq
Pllllbbbbbbb
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/liveblog/2025/2/12/live-trump-says-us-will-take-gaza-un-estimates-53bn-needed-to-rebuild
Not saying it is not going to happens, at least I hope not. Still fact remains to this day.
What a meaningless thing to say in this context, as both parties act the same way: supporting Israel.
So the only difference we have to go by is words. And Trump's are the most ghoulish shit any elected politician has said so far.
What a meaningless thing to vote if whatever you vote both parties act the same. I'm glad we have more than 2 political parties in France
Same here in Germany, but these two parties are not at all the same, even if they don't differ much in that one (and a bunch of other) issues.
Yeah, I mean there are some unimportant issues they disagree on like:
More school shootings vs less school shootings?
Are trans people human or not?
Should non-white people and women be allowed to work jobs?
But let's just ignore those, they're unimportant.
Get fucked and civility be damned. Permaban me
You mean he said it while Biden was trying to persuade us that he was the one most aligned with Israel?
Can't hear them over the sound of the bombs they send
Edit: to everyone who upvoted the guy below and downvoted me, check their latest comment in the thread. In case they delete it:
Oh, did Trump stop sending bombs? I was under the impression he was escalating things.
There's an ongoing ceasefire, trump is all words, but you'd know better if you actually cared about Palestinians more than performatively. The daily deaths are much lower so far than under democrat administration. This is surely not thanks to trump's good desires for Palestinians, he's as much of a genocidal ghoul as any American politician, but the numbers are the numbers
If you had a working memory, you'd recall that trump has been calling Bibi and torpedoing ceasefire and foreign aid talks.
Also, there are a lot fewer Palestinians in Gaza left to shoot, so it would make sense that the numbers went down.
Oh, and the current ceasefire was negotiated by the Biden administration.
But you'd remember all that if you cared "more than performatively."
Source? I feel like you just make this up. It was enacted literally the day before the inauguration wasn't it? Why enact a ceasefire the day before the inauguration of your political opponent after 2+ years funding the genocide and talking about Pissrael's right to defend itself and arresting students at campuses for protesting a genocide?
God you guys are fucking vile, trivialising stuff like that and pulling out bullshit arguments. The ceasefire is ongoing, that's the reason why orders of magnitude people are being murdered, not a lack of Palestinians to be genocided. Nazis ramped up their industrial elimination of "Untermenschen" when they saw they were losing, despite "fewer left to shoot".
Pop quiz... Who was the president the day before Trump was inaugurated in 2025?
Maybe because the preservation of human rights and life should be pursued regardless of who the President will be tomorrow?
So how is that compatible with the 2+ years of funding and supporting genocide?
This gave me a good laugh. You believed the propaganda.
I'm curious how this works. If anyone makes a deal anywhere in the world, whoever the US president at that time should receive credit or blame for the negotiations. is that how this works?
Most importantly does this mean I can i blame Trump for the Luka Donic trade to the Lakers?
Right... Propaganda....
So your position is that Israel just stopped it's genocide on its own, without any outside pressure or negotiation talks?
What I'm hearing then is that the whomever is president in the US and their support (or lack there of) of Israel has no effect on the situation over there... Which means the people who abstained from voting or protest voted against Kamala are rubes who allowed a felon fascist racist to take control of the US?
My position is that Israel hasnt stopped their genocide.
A one month temporary pause in a 50+ year attempt to eradicate a people is a very early celebration party. Apparently, it isnt enough to stop US political parties and their loyalist from trying to score points off of it though.
Or maybe you think only israels most recent action was genocidal. In which case sure. All hail [insert your favorite political leaders] glorious wisdom!
I think you may spend too much time deep in culture wars.
Same. No argument there.
Also, same.
Israel has been trying to forcefully move and encroach on Gaza for decades, but I would say that their actions in the last two years have definitely stepped up to genocide levels. No need to hail a particular political leader, they were going to do this regardless of who was elected.
Probably right about the time spent, but calling donald trump, a reknowned and convicted felon, fascist and rapist, a felon fascist and rapist, is not hyperbole.