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[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 80 points 23 hours ago

I don't remember hearing any Dems talking about turning Gaza into a beach resort after they purge the locals.

[-] thesven@lemm.ee 15 points 22 hours ago

They didn't say it out loud, but they allowed the Israeli government to bomb the shit out of Gaza.

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 43 points 22 hours ago
[-] thesven@lemm.ee 4 points 11 hours ago

You mean he said it while Biden was trying to persuade us that he was the one most aligned with Israel?

[-] Mouette@jlai.lu 6 points 22 hours ago

Act matter much more than word

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 29 points 21 hours ago

If you honestly believed he wouldn't act when he was back in power you need to have your head examined.

[-] Mouette@jlai.lu 3 points 20 hours ago

As much as it might displease you the fact is since Trump has won Israël Palestine have truced and civilian are not longer dying on a daily basiq

[-] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 14 points 21 hours ago

What a meaningless thing to say in this context, as both parties act the same way: supporting Israel.

So the only difference we have to go by is words. And Trump's are the most ghoulish shit any elected politician has said so far.

[-] Mouette@jlai.lu 7 points 20 hours ago

What a meaningless thing to vote if whatever you vote both parties act the same. I'm glad we have more than 2 political parties in France

[-] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 3 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Same here in Germany, but these two parties are not at all the same, even if they don't differ much in that one (and a bunch of other) issues.

[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 6 points 15 hours ago

Yeah, I mean there are some unimportant issues they disagree on like:

More school shootings vs less school shootings?

Are trans people human or not?

Should non-white people and women be allowed to work jobs?

But let's just ignore those, they're unimportant.

[-] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 7 points 20 hours ago

Get fucked and civility be damned. Permaban me

[-] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 14 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Can't hear them over the sound of the bombs they send

Edit: to everyone who upvoted the guy below and downvoted me, check their latest comment in the thread. In case they delete it:

Well, you might recall that the funding was approved by Congress, and Presidents should be impeached and held accountable for overstepping those bounds, like how trump was impeached for withholding aid to Ukraine in 2016. Furthermore, Israel is a long term ally, who suffered a brutal terrorist attack in October, and they are in a precarious situation, as their neighbors are not found of their existence, so we have to toe the line between supporting our ally, but also resist genocide and ethnic cleansing. Turns out, geopolitics is not simple.

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 33 points 22 hours ago

Oh, did Trump stop sending bombs? I was under the impression he was escalating things.

[-] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 4 points 21 hours ago

There's an ongoing ceasefire, trump is all words, but you'd know better if you actually cared about Palestinians more than performatively. The daily deaths are much lower so far than under democrat administration. This is surely not thanks to trump's good desires for Palestinians, he's as much of a genocidal ghoul as any American politician, but the numbers are the numbers

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 16 points 21 hours ago

If you had a working memory, you'd recall that trump has been calling Bibi and torpedoing ceasefire and foreign aid talks.

Also, there are a lot fewer Palestinians in Gaza left to shoot, so it would make sense that the numbers went down.

Oh, and the current ceasefire was negotiated by the Biden administration.

But you'd remember all that if you cared "more than performatively."

[-] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

the current ceasefire was negotiated by the Biden administration

Source? I feel like you just make this up. It was enacted literally the day before the inauguration wasn't it? Why enact a ceasefire the day before the inauguration of your political opponent after 2+ years funding the genocide and talking about Pissrael's right to defend itself and arresting students at campuses for protesting a genocide?

Also, there are a lot fewer Palestinians in Gaza left to shoot, so it would make sense that the numbers went down.

God you guys are fucking vile, trivialising stuff like that and pulling out bullshit arguments. The ceasefire is ongoing, that's the reason why orders of magnitude people are being murdered, not a lack of Palestinians to be genocided. Nazis ramped up their industrial elimination of "Untermenschen" when they saw they were losing, despite "fewer left to shoot".

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 10 points 21 hours ago

Source? I feel like you just make this up. It was enacted literally the day before the inauguration wasn’t it?

Pop quiz... Who was the president the day before Trump was inaugurated in 2025?

Why enact a ceasefire the day before the inauguration of your political opponent...

Maybe because the preservation of human rights and life should be pursued regardless of who the President will be tomorrow?

[-] adminofoz@lemmy.cafe 2 points 12 hours ago

This gave me a good laugh. You believed the propaganda.

I'm curious how this works. If anyone makes a deal anywhere in the world, whoever the US president at that time should receive credit or blame for the negotiations. is that how this works?

Most importantly does this mean I can i blame Trump for the Luka Donic trade to the Lakers?

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

Right... Propaganda....

So your position is that Israel just stopped it's genocide on its own, without any outside pressure or negotiation talks?

What I'm hearing then is that the whomever is president in the US and their support (or lack there of) of Israel has no effect on the situation over there... Which means the people who abstained from voting or protest voted against Kamala are rubes who allowed a felon fascist racist to take control of the US?

[-] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 4 points 21 hours ago

Maybe because the preservation of human rights and life should be pursued regardless of who the President will be tomorrow?

So how is that compatible with the 2+ years of funding and supporting genocide?

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