Beyoncé claimed to be “bringing back black country” when black country never went anywhere. It’s incredibly insulting to all of the other actual black country singers and artists. Also her album is just bad. Like literally terrible terrible music. It’s clearly just a cash grab.
Very similar to when she claimed to be the first black woman to headline the Glastonbury festival and Skin from Skunk Anansie was like, ex-fucking-scuse me.
If it’s anything like what current mainstream country music has been since roughly 9/11 then no wonder the bigots love it when it’s not a black woman. Nothing out of Nashville has really been good since the 90s
It's perfectly ok not to like Beyonce.
There's some ambiguity in English here.
I think it's okay to be neutral on Beyonce. I think it's okay to prefer silence over her music.
Some people are weirdly active in their dislike of her. That seems strange to me. Like they have an active, motivating dislike of her.
(Unless you're coming at it via "no ultra wealthy", then I kind of get it, but I feel like people who got wealthy from performing music are lower on my list of problems than other ultra rich)
Agreed, I had a friend who every time it came up talked about how much he hated Taylor Swift. I kept trying to press him about what he didn't like about her, like the music, or the tours, or whatever.
And at the bottom of it he just didn't like the idea of a woman with wealth and power equal to her peers in the music industry
Was it the woman part or the wealth part? For me, it's dislike of the wealth and power of any of the current radio artists and their label execs, regardless of gender.
One of the... quirks.. of humans is that often we'll feel one thing, but say another. So someone might say "I just don't like that she's so rich", but what's actually happening under the hood is they don't like a woman having power. They might not even consciously realize this is happening.
We all do this to some extent. We feel things, and then reach for explanations. Preferably socially acceptable justifications. Someone might say they don't like a neighborhood, that it feels tacky and unsafe, but you'd have to do some digging to unearth "because black people live there".
At the same time, there are people who know their belief is socially unacceptable, so they'll intentionally reach to reasons the other people might accept. So you'll get someone who hates women saying things like "i just don't think her music is good", or "she seems bossy", or other lightly coded phrases.
This is all really confounding because it's very difficult to tell the difference between that first category, the second category, and a third category of "legitimately doesn't like her music." Sometimes there are signs, like they'll say "I just don't like that she has so much money" but then never, ever, comment on similarly rich men. (I'm not saying this is you, specifically. But if it is, maybe give it a think.)
Also most people are, frankly, fragile little cowards that can't accept a threat to their ego. Faced with admitting "I did a sexism", they'd rather lash out and blame everyone else instead of giving it a think and trying to be better.
The oatmeal did a comic on this, or at least a closely related concept: https://theoatmeal.com/comics/believe
And this is a sort of intellectualized version, but then real life, so you need to add in that you may just happen to be acting contrary because you need to eat or got a shit sleep or you're taking to Steve and fuck that guy and then it's even harder to parse.
Wish there was just a print-out sometimes; something that I could check my answers against, see if I'm even on the right track
I mean, they didn't really have to do that. It's already been done:
Luke Combs - Fast Car (Official Live Video)
He did it respectfully and didn't change any of the words, even when he calls himself a girl.
Who doesn’t like The Tracy Chapman version tho?
Read all of this:
The singer's 1988 song "Fast Car" -- turned into a massive country and pop hit this year in a cover version by country superstar Luke Combs -- was named song of the year at the 2023 CMA Awards, making Chapman the first Black songwriter to win in the category.
Though she wasn't able to attend the awards show, Chapman reacted to her win in a statement which read: "I'm sorry I couldn't join you all tonight. It's truly an honor for my song to be newly recognized after 35 years of its debut. Thank you to the CMAs and a special thanks to Luke and all of the fans of 'Fast Car.'"
edit: took out one of the bolds, she did receive a grammy.
Ok, but that doesn’t support the idea that people don’t like the song or more specifically her version.
She was nominated for song of the year and record of the year for fast car. She won the Grammy for best female pop performance, for that song.
We love her song so much she won a cma 35 years later.
This is a super false equivalence.
Except we're talking about country music specifically, not the general awards.
They also just don’t have to do that because it was already presumed—contemporary country fans, I should be clear. The type of people who listen to that type of music are generally angry young white guys who like drinking and are in college.
The country music space has been invaded by the right wing “patriot” crowd.
Always has been.
What is Cowboy Carter? Is that how I can find a link?
Cowboy Carter is Beyonce's country album.
I was wondering who that was supposed to be. The title actually makes some sense now.
Anyone else notice they have a sexual preference in singers and music? I mostly like metal, and there are a few female singers I have liked, though I'm out of touch, having been totally disenfranchised by streaming, and bad with names in general. I tend to wear thin on female vocals. I don't know if it is the tone, texture, or content.
I used to put 5 CDs in a turn table boom box in my auto body shop and just let them play while I worked for 12-16 hours straight. It was mostly like Disturbed, Slipknot, Metallica, Alice in Chains, that kind of stuff. I can't recall any of the female stuff I tried, but I never kept them in the loop for very long. Dunno why really. Guess I'm music-gay like Red team
I generally find that people prefer artists they can sing along to and have it somewhat sound simila
I'm kinda the opposite, haha! It's twenty years old now but back then I got my hands on the Beautiful Voices albums and I discovered some fantastic female vocalists (and a few I already loved). These days my most listened to band is without a doubt Band Maid, and my latest discovery is Castle Rat... It's not the fact it's a woman singing, per se, it's more something to do with lyricism and the contrast with the metal sound. Just like Serj Tankian's operatic singing vs the mad sound of SoaD, if you will.
Dude, those compilation disks were amazing, and some even came with DVDs of their music videos. I remember how cringy After Forever videos were, and how enchanting Floor's voice and interpretation always was. I still listen to VOA frequently, and those albums really helped shape my taste in music.
If you want a fancy treat, give both Diablo Swing Orchestra and Igorrr a listening to, they are amazing.
I don’t necessarily select music solely for the vocals, but I typically find women’s voices much more beautiful. Andrea bocelli, don mclean, and hozier are notable exceptions, but Amy Winehouse, Adele, or even Beyoncé tend to hit me harder.
Maybe that's just in accordance with the normal style of metal music, where male vocals are expected / more appropriate. I'm surprised to learn that there are female metal singers at all.
Lacuna Coil, Otep, and Arch Enemy immediately come to mind, but you are correct - feminine representation is a small minority in metal.
I'd say it depends on the subgenre. Symphonic metal bands often are female fronted, such as Nightwish, Within Temptation, Leave's Eyes or Epica.
Recommend Jinjer and Unleash the Archers
Light this city, Ignea, Arkona, even Battle Beast. There are plenty female vocalists with a lot of catchy songs.
Nervosa is my favorite all-women band of all time. Super tight thrash/melodeath from Brazil.
Check out the bands Savage Master and Konvent. Fantastic front women 🤘
In my head I've got a whole slew of doom, black(end), and postmetal with female vocalists - and in some cases all band members
In no particular order:
I have a really broad taste in music and I've noticed that I definitely prefer a male voice. Same with authors.
It could just be the particular artist or their style. Most of the mental I like is male vocaled, but that's just a numbers game. I like quite a few metal bands with women leads, but there are some that just rub me the wrong way, like Unleash the Archers. But give me something like In This Moment or Amaranthe and I'm hooked for hours.
The number one Billboard album and album of the Year?
seems like it's doing okay.
I think this is in reference to the album being fully shut out of the country music awards. Not even a single nomination.
thanks, that makes sense. I didn't know that, that is some bullshit.
And its fucking CRAZY how that happened. People can argue that "Beyonce isn't a country singer" all they want, but her song "YA YA" off the Cowboy Carter album (my favey fave off the album) is an incredible song with just her powerful lungs alone, however, the lyrics are shit that White Conservative Country Music People should eat up:
"My family live and died in America, hm Good ol' USA, shit (Good ol' USA) Whole lotta red in that white and blue, huh History can't be erased, ooh You lookin' for a new America? (America) Are you tired, workin' time and a half for half the pay? (Half the pay) Ya-ya (Ooh-ooh, oh-oh) I just pray that we don't crash, keep my Bible on the dash We gotta keep the faith"
And in a later verse she talks about staying strapped with a pistol on her hip and a Bible in her hands.
Like...this is exactly the type of shit these people literally dream about.
full screen popup saying to disable my adblocker makes Turret3857 an uninformed boy.
There was an “X” in the upper right hand corner. I clicked it and the popup went away, and I could read the article.
i believe you but I instinctually click off of websites that do that. if you dont want my traffic you won't get it lol
I completely understand, but I’m more tolerant of the close-able popup with a clear X than I am the others though.
Which were themselves covers of black songs during segregation?
'Jolene' and 'Blackbird' were covers of black songs? Which ones?
John Lennon, who originally wrote blackbird, was heavily influenced by 90s hip hop. /s
That would be rich.
Uh, In Rainbows with Beyoncé's voice would suck. I don't think that makes a person racist. us Americans are obsessed with race.
Beyonce is OK, but I'm more of a fan of Rhianna, personally.
Not a fan of any kind of contemporary country music, though. It's my personal opinion that country music hasn't been good since at least the days of John Denver. The stuff they make these days is derivative slop.
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