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submitted 2 years ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Summary

Elon Musk vowed to cancel government grants after allegedly gaining access to the US Treasury’s payments system, triggering the abrupt resignation of a senior official.

Musk, who leads Trump’s Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), claimed his team found Treasury officials approving payments without scrutiny.

Democrats, including Sen. Ron Wyden, raised alarms over Musk’s influence on federal funds. Treasury access concerns intensified after Trump ally Michael Flynn posted grant payments online.

Musk’s authority to halt payments remains unclear, and the Treasury has not responded to inquiries.

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[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 214 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Who the fuck even is this guy? No vetting process, no confirmation hearings, nothing.

And he's just given this kind of power?

This country is so very, very fucked. Thanks to donvict's base and a huge assist from the apathetic and the "bothsides" idiots.

[-] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 years ago

Most Americans are sleepwalking. As much as they're going to hurt other countries they're going to hurt Americans the most.

[-] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Well, so there's some justice

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[-] ninjabard@lemmy.world 136 points 2 years ago

Can we please send this fuckwit back to where he comes from? Like, the seventh circle of Hell?

[-] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago

The 8th circle might be a better fit, especially in the 8th Bolgia for councellors of fraud.

[-] tiefling 26 points 2 years ago

We don't want him. I propose shooting him out of a cannon into the sun

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 17 points 2 years ago

Stick him in a Cybertruck and launch that into the sun.

[-] Zorsith 5 points 2 years ago

Hell, just roll the thing into a lake.

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[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 14 points 2 years ago

Too energy intensive. Just launch him into a Sun orbit so he can join his roadster.

[-] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 10 points 2 years ago

Honesty, it would be a lot cheaper to just send him out on a billionaire submarine

[-] PwnTra1n@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Cement shoes is cheaper than that

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Deport fElon.

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

He needs a new goal: Occupy the Sun

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[-] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 116 points 2 years ago

Gee, there is no way Musk would abuse that power...

Like canceling grant payments to rival EV manufacturers

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[-] hypna@lemmy.world 114 points 2 years ago

There have been two court orders requiring that payments continue normally. It looks like Musk has decided that court orders do not bind him. It hasn't even been two weeks and already we're at the constitutional crisis?

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago

When you're the wealthiest man in America the laws don't apply to you.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 22 points 2 years ago

The system in its infinite wisdom prevents poor and rich alike from begging on the streets....

[-] mokus 9 points 2 years ago

We’re setting up the “Mr Burns’ diseases” system. We’ll just have every constitutional crisis in existence all at once, and they’ll balance each other out! 🤦‍♀️

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

It’s only a constitutional crisis if anyone will pursue it.

If court orders don’t apply and higher institutions do nothing, well, there is no crisis.

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[-] Zier@fedia.io 104 points 2 years ago

He's not an employee of the Federal Government. This is completely illegal. And he's a psychopathic junkie so...

[-] twistypencil@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago
[-] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Which brownshirt do you want to arrest him? The ones in Congress? The ones in the SC? The gestapo?

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[-] Deello@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago
[-] ClanOfTheOcho@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

That's what I'm wondering!

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

"Illegal" no longer means anything for the top people in the Trump administration. Including the ones who are not official employees.

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[-] leadore@lemmy.world 74 points 2 years ago

Democrats "raised alarms"? Gee thanks, that'll take care of it you pathetic wimps. Why haven't they brought an immediate case to the Supreme Court for an emergency ruling? A non-elected, non-nominated or confirmed by Senate (and we should of course note) immigrant has been given access to the United States Treasury. This is insane.

[-] d00phy@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

RIGHT!? The treasury and HR! Why are Senators not screaming until they’re hoarse!? If this isn’t the worst Executive overreach in the history of this country I don’t know what is!

[-] Marleyinoc@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

It's pretty clear that the majority of politicians on the right and left support this. It's always been about the rich and powerful.

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[-] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 64 points 2 years ago

I thought we were agreed: Any Musk photo in news from now on is his Nazi salute.

[-] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 51 points 2 years ago
[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Hitler didn't mean to do that. He was just excited and he had self-diagnosed autism.

Wait, who are we talking about again?

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[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

I'd be fine if he had the Hitler mustache as well

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[-] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago

Democrats, including Sen. Ron Wyden, raised alarms over Musk’s influence on federal funds. Treasury access concerns intensified after Trump ally Michael Flynn posted grant payments online.

That's funny, the only thing I get when I search for "Michael Flynn grant payments" are about payments Flynn received from the Russian government

[-] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago

So the country is now a dogecracy or is it still aan oligarchy? Does this count as a coup?

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago

It's a coup

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[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago

The world’s richest man, who bankrolled Donald Trump’s re-election campaign and was tasked by the president with running the cost-cutting Department of Government Efficiency, boasted on his social media site X that he was “rapidly shutting down . . . illegal payments” after a list of grants to Lutheran organisations was posted online.

The threat came after Musk appeared to confirm on Saturday that DOGE had access to the Treasury system, which disperses trillions of dollars each year, including social security payments. 

He justified the move by claiming his team discovered “that payment approval officers at Treasury were instructed always to approve payments, even to known fraudulent or terrorist groups”. 

The system has been run by career civil servants and the Treasury already has an in-house team tasked with identifying fraudulent payments. A source with knowledge of the situation said that DOGE representatives did not have the authority to cut payments, only to read the data.

Senator Ron Wyden, the top-ranking Democrat on the Senate Finance Committee, said his office had been told that Treasury secretary Scott Bessent had granted DOGE “full” access to the system.

Lutherans!! Well, I’m glad Elmo Nazi shut that shit down! Who knows how long those shady Lutherans were growing fat off the Treasury’s ample, juicy teats!

Srs tho, omfg the batshit is everywhere.

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

DOGE representatives did not have the authority to cut payments, only to read the data.

They shouldn't even have that!

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 15 points 2 years ago

I'm not sure we should be giving government grants to any religious organizations, but why on earth would you target Lutherans of all groups?

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[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago

So if he's acting as a government official doesn't he need to be confirmed by Congress?

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

LOL, but we have Worthington's Law here in 'merica. It overrides any of that pesky Constitutional and/or democratic norms stuff...

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[-] himmyguap@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago
[-] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

We need Luigi

[-] Marleyinoc@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

Mush is a terrorist.

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

When this nation was strong we executed people for less than what this freak is doing.

[-] ChlkDstTtr@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

I don’t understand. What’s apparently so heinous about Lutheran charities?

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

They're inclusive of queer people and allow them to be pastors. They embrace immigrants. I'm an atheist but they seem ok, so yeah they're a target.

[-] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Ninety-five Theses are too many. He wants DOGE to streamline it to four and take out that pesky objection to indulgences.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago
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