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[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 18 points 11 hours ago

Now would be a good time for a reminder that there is no such thing as a moral billionaire. Scientifically, sane people retire to lives of luxury with their families long before they reach that level of wealth. The only reason to seek such wealth is out of a sick desire to control other human beings. Religiously, scripture says that there are no wealthy people in paradise. In the end, they all burn. Scientifically or religiously, you do not become a billionaire unless there is something broken in your soul.

[-] Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 2 points 7 hours ago

How has 'what is moral' come to be scientifically settled?

Different cultures across the world have different morals. Yet for this statement to be true, there must be an agreed scientific consensus on a quantitative metric and its impact on a fundamentally unscientific det of cultural rules.

The appeal to scientific authority in this statement undermines a good moral argument to be made about inequity and excessive individual rights to property.

This is just a call to some pop-science, at best, meant to engage the rage. It has no better scientific basis than trickle down economics does.

[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Do not put words in my mouth. I said nothing of scientific morality.

I said that different people work for different reasons. Sane people work to achieve the necessities of life, providing a means to support themselves and their families. Sane people, with healthy relationships and interests, value things other than work. Once you have enough to live in luxury for a dozen lifetimes, you are no longer pursuing things like friends, family, hobbies, etc. You are instead working primarily because you are a psychopath who gets off on lording power over others. The only thing that billions in wealth gets you is power and influence over others. That's literally its only utility.

There are no moral billionaires. If you seek that level of wealth, there is something fundamentally broken in your soul. You need to be involuntarily committed to an insane asylum, as you are pathologically addicted to money and power.

[-] Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 2 points 6 hours ago

Claiming a scientific authority that doesn't exist and someone calling you on it, isn't putting words in your mouth. Its a reaction to an unjustified claim to authority, that undermines that authority when it is actually appropriate.

It also undermines your own argument. Its good to see you're reply shifted position.

[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

"I am an alpha male."

[-] No1@aussie.zone 10 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

"I AM SPARTACUS!".
"NO YOU ARE NOT! I AM SPARTACUS!".
"NUH-UH!" "AM SO!"

"Bruh, what are these dorks going on about? Pass me another brew and fire up that J."

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 6 points 11 hours ago

The narcissists are fiiiightiiiiing!

[-] caboose2006@lemmy.ca 8 points 13 hours ago

Good..I hope they tear each other to pieces.

[-] glitchdx@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago

maybe we'll be lucky and they'll be too busy tearing each other apart that they won't have time to tear this country apart.

[-] passiveaggressivesonar@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

Time to lean fully into this: Elon is doing all this to expose the ridiculous control money has over politics

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 53 points 21 hours ago

So we really did get our second African American President.

[-] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 13 points 11 hours ago

First illegal immigrant President, too.

[-] mhague@lemmy.world 29 points 19 hours ago

I would think Trump pretending to be fabulously wealthy but being exposed as a populist grifter, and Elon being the richest guy in the world, would hang in the air like Trump's stench.

[-] prole 31 points 21 hours ago

This dude is so fucking easy to manipulate.

Really, the exact trait that I want in a leader 🙄

[-] clashorcrashman@lemmy.zip 8 points 11 hours ago

If he's so easy to manipulate, then why don't you do it?

No seriously please, help us.

[-] UpperBroccoli 22 points 21 hours ago

What, junior assistent deputy backup "president" Donald Trump is furious that President Elon Musk outranks him and gives him orders? He cannot be mad at President Elon Musk, President Elon Musk could order a nuclear strike on his house, does lowly Donald Trump not know that? He should thank his President Elon Musk for bringing him with him to the white house, Elon Musk's new residence!

[-] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 12 points 19 hours ago

So which one gets into a horrible accident /assassination?

Either one has the willingness and lack of foresight to take out the other

[-] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 159 points 1 day ago

Oooooooo, President Elon is gonna be pissed at poor man Trump and cut off his funding.

Trump better shape up and kiss the ring.

[-] hemmes@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago

Yeah, how dare Trump talk to his superior, Elon Musk, like that?? It’s unconscionable!

[-] zante@slrpnk.net 19 points 1 day ago

Trump is pretty vulnerable. He won’t complete his full term

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 113 points 1 day ago

I predicted this a while back: Having two thin-skinned megalomaniacs working together never works out in the long run. Trump and Elon are both too dysfunctional even to be able to work individually with patient people without it going off the rails. Having them working together with each other is doomed to explosive failure eventually.

[-] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago

The funny part is Trump doesn't even take office for another month, the relationship might fall apart before he's even inaugurated and actually in power, let alone lasting "long term".

[-] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 23 points 1 day ago

Yessssss poke the thin skinned bears... Have them tear each other apart

Can we not insult bears with this comparison, even the weakest, dumbest, most cowardly bear is still leagues better than them. Except Koala but they arent even real bears so fuck em, Nazi punks of the bear world.

[-] samus12345@lemm.ee 73 points 1 day ago

It would be helpful to constantly remind Donnie that Musk is about 100 times richer than him, too.

[-] blarth@thelemmy.club 47 points 1 day ago

Why are they calling journalists? I thought all the news was fake.

[-] thoughtfuldragon 13 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I thought journalist always called him. Him being a "ratings machine" and all.

Gossip rags 🤷‍♂️

[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago

Did it stop being president Putin, or is Trump just getting spitroasted by both of them simultaneously?

[-] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 38 points 1 day ago

I would like to return one mental image please

[-] Leavingoldhabits@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

It’s intriguing, though, who’s in front, who’s in the back, and does it even mean anything?

[-] Pulptastic@midwest.social 52 points 1 day ago

Sounds like he might be easy to manipulate by the media.

Did you hear that Trump is just following orders from the religious right, that Christian nationalists are the true president? All his anti abortion and anti socialism stuff is just following orders from his master.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I predict this will be an ongoing but toxic thing, like a really bad relationship between two people who just won’t break up.

They’ve essentially married themselves to each others’ power… But also, they literally need entire media platforms to stroke their egos.

[-] Pregnenolone@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Except Joe Biden is president of the United States…

[-] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago

President-elect Musk it is then

[-] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 19 points 1 day ago

I had this discussion with people IRL recently, wondering who the real power behind the throne was, because when they let him do interviews on his own, it's clear the orange figurehead is too far gone with dementia to be this organized and focused on the transition. I hope that the real power behind the throne is Leon, because he's so stupid. Dangerous, yes, but not as insidiously dangerous as somebody smart.

In any case, I want this to be true. It's exactly what I would've predicted, so I'll keep calling him President Musk.

[-] Tinidril@midwest.social 2 points 1 day ago

I don't think it's dementia, not unless he's had dementia his entire life.

[-] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 2 points 10 hours ago

Somebody did an analysis of his speech, and found that his vocabulary has markedly decreased in recent years. That's one of the signal early indicators of dementia. Even back in 2016, he was noticeably more articulate. Since then, several other symptoms of dementia have shown up: Memory issues, doctors concerned enough to do cognitive assessments, losing the ability to process metaphors, impulsivity, uncharacteristic swearing, and losing track of the passage of time.

[-] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 2 points 16 hours ago

It has noticeably gotten worse

As bad as he was before, he didn't prompt me to say "HUH?!?" every time he spoke then, but he definitely manages it every time now

He has always been an idiot but he isnt able to focus much anymore. Its hard to tell though since he was always running at half cylinder and is now running at a third.

[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 day ago

Hear me out: put them in a ring and let the gladiator games begin. Let the ego flow. It's best for all of us.

Guess the journalists will answer " Weird Flex, but OK"

[-] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Trump must give amazing head. Must be those soft fatty cheeks.

[-] prole 3 points 21 hours ago
[-] makyo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Nooo fuckin way I’m doing the Abramson thing again

this post was submitted on 21 Dec 2024
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