Then do universal healthcare, right? Right?
If they really go whole hog and sell off the hospitals and stuff then I would think the next president would just go to a Veteran's Public Option. There's a world in which 5 years from now we prove Medicare for All works because they deleted the entire side of the VA that does healthcare.
Universally leave you to die if you don't pay, sure.
Typo. Then, not they.
Elon musk being like "all that money we're spending on vets could be going into my pockets."
The status quo is just a lot more visible, now.
Do it. Cut tricare too. I don’t want those things gone, but holy hell yes please eliminate the willingness of the military to aid you against the constitution. Defund barrack improvements and force married troops to bring their spouses into the barracks while you’re at it.
Crash and burn and let us rebuild America with an understanding it wasn’t immigrants or trans people that did this, it was rich people and fascists.
As a former military child, I largely agree with cutting tricare. It's pretty good, and military people take for granted that they get socialized Healthcare but not the rest of us. Yeah, "serving the country" and all that, but most military personnel aren't doing anything that anyone else isn't doing. Most military personnel are not in combat roles. Everyone should be treated well because everyone benefits the nation. Take away the socialized healthcare of the military and vets and maybe we'll get socialized healthcare in general.
I doubt this will work, but it'll at least force military people to come to terms with the fact they have socialized healthcare and how well it works. My dad at least used to argue with me whenever I called it that. I'm not sure if he still thinks it isn't true. I'm sure other people haven't even considered that that's what it is.
This will piss off every single veteran, active service member, and their relatives. I don't just want this shit to fail, I want people to remember just how little fucks these people give about anyone other than themselves.
Republicans have been cutting vet benefits for years, and it hasn’t stopped them from voting red yet.
I want to see these fucks do this then ask for the military to keep them in office when they violate the constitution
If you hear back well they did not realize... you answer with yes, this is how little they care
Shameless, veterans risk their lives for their country, the least the govt can do is give them healthcare
Unfortunately for veterans, they aren't risking their lives for their country. They're risking their lives for the special interests of corporate oligarchs who couldn't care less about them.
I know but that’s a hard sell for poor young recruits, if they knew this more they’d charge like mercenaries
Optics of cutting the programs aside, it's criminal that beneficial programs like these don't get re-authorized.
This is amazing. Good. Fuck the troops. Let's see you garrison your military bases in every other country in the world, losers. You can't even meet recruiting goals now!
Remember when if you didn't "support our troops," Republicans would ask you why you hated America?
The right wing has never supported veterans
The good old days when it was republicans who were "if you're not with us I will enjoy watching you die"
At best, "support our troops" was a version of that dumbass magical thinking that, in earlier times, held that the U.S. lost in Vietnam because Americans didn't clap for Tinkerbell, err, I mean, support the war. Mostly, it was a thought-terminating cliché.
Yeah, as you rightly point out, it was never about the soldiers themselves.
I learned the ugly truth of that way back in 1990 when I was still in Middle School and Bush Sr. sent Americans to die for oil in Iraq and all of his fans in my town were tying yellow ribbons around the trees in their yard to "support the troops" being sent to die pointlessly.
"Lost in Vietnam"? Oh, no, they were saying much worse than that. It used to be that if you suggested the US lost Vietnam that you were "insulting the bravery of the troops" or some shit like that. It was only after the War on Terror became unpopular that you could say the US lost Vietnam (because, you know, it did) without some jackass wingnut bringing out the faux patriotism.
“This bloated liberal socialist program is inefficient and doesn’t work. Because it’s liberal and socialist. So we’re going to get rid of it. We’re planing to plan a replacement plan, but we haven’t planned on when to plan it. But we’ll blame the libs for that too, even though we have essentially captured all branches of the government at this point.”
They’ve learned their lesson from 4 years of failure to repeal and replace Obamacare. “Replacing was hard and expensive and anything that addresses people’s concerns or doesn’t ensure failure to re-elect was to the left of this, so we’ve decided to just repeal and not replace. Get over it loser.”
Part of me, as an outsider looking in with abject horror, wants to see this happen just because I still hold out hope that it might finally wake up a not-insignificant part of rural and rust-belt America that live off these benefits (or ‘handouts’ according to the GOP) out of their political stupor.
But on the other hand, I know that once it’s gone, it’s very unlikely to be brought back in the immediate future by the current crop of Dems, who seemingly would rather keep dangling it as a carrot (along with restoring ablation access) in order to entice voter turnout.
FWIW, this breaks from the Two Santas Strategy. This Santa is suppose to be funding things conservatives want, while at the same time reducing taxes (on the rich), thereby driving the deficit up without making their voters mad. If you actually cut funding for a bunch of stuff people rely on, you will earn the ire of the voters, that's why no one ever does it.
Yeah, there will be a core of people who will defend Trump and Musk to their self-inflicted death, but those people are in the minority. Most Americans (and most people in the world) voted against the incumbent this year because they were unfortunately there during a time of inevitable inflation. And they'll do it again if their lives continue to get materially worse over the next few years.
I can't help but wonder how we would be sitting right now if Trump had won in 2020. But we're due for a generational crisis, and I don't think that wouldn't have been nearly as exciting.
Save billions on essentials while spending trillions in bullshit.
No exceptionalism for war criminals. Get in line like the rest.
they just want Russia to be the top superpower
Don't know anything about top superpower, but Russia already has better healthcare that american veterans. Even tourists have better healthcare in Russia than americans in America.
most so-called third world countries have better healthcare than the US. what I'm talking about is influence over there world. they're dismantling the country, and even though they're already terrible at education and healthcare, it will get worse.
As a US citizen, paying for veterans healthcare and early education programs advance my interests a whole fucking lot more than paying this jackass.
Stupid piece of shit, you don't speak for us.
As someone with just as much federal authority as the non-existent DOGE, I also propose defunding expenditures that “don’t advance the interests of American citizens.”
And I would like to start with fucking Vivek Ramaswamy and Elon fucking Musk.
Not for millenia would I have realized that Department of Government Efficiency stood for DoGE. What a funny little boy Elon is.
I am terrified at them defunding the VA. I've had a much easier time getting good medical care from VA doctors than I ever did going private and I'd be bankrupt without the VA. It's because of the VA that I have any savings at all
Agreed. They must have gotten better in the last decade too, because I don't see the horrible things that people have said about the VA. Yes there are long wait times for appointments, but that's happening in private care now as well.
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