When they say it's about race, it's about class. When they say it is about class, it's about gender. And when they say it's out gender, it's about race.

Or at least that's how it feels sometimes.

Yeah but they bought their citizenship, they didn't have it given to them by some stupid thing like the Constitution. Plus, they're the "right kind" of immigrants. Wink wink.

Fingers crossed that we have immortalized the constitution so hard that the military would coup him over this. Crazy that's a thing I'm wishing for. Revolution would be cooler but this is America.

The Constitution gets shredded regularly. It's a failed document.

Same chance as Trump choking on a piece of hamberder

Peak 'pulling the ladder up behind him.'

Basically only people with money would be able to 'earn' citizenship I suspect. Anyone else is left out of school, social programs, etc purposely.

They would be stateless, yes

No dude, he's going to fire most federal workers. He will replace some of them with sycophants . Read Project 2025

the border crisis stuff

What "border crisis stuff"? There are no massive groups of people crossing the border illegally, all of the talk about that is GOP propaganda.

The majority of illegal immigrants in the US enter the country legally and then overstay their visas.

First off it really really fucking sucks to be stateless.

Secondly, if you grew up in America and got an American education, you're American enough for me. We've invested a big chunk of money into training you so it'd be swell if you'd put that education to use in the American economy.

Lastly, as one of the favorite shirts on res points out - why the fuck do you assume you're American anyways:

Original Homeland Security

What other countries have it?

Countries influenced by English common law, so nearly every country in North and South America, Australia, and Europe.

You can't possibly see the downside of people being born in your country but not having the same rights as citizens? What makes you think slavery wouldn't return if it were ended?

You should really read up on things like H1B visas then. They were for skilled workers and still got abused in a variety of ways including to suppress wages and get more or less indentured workers. I know places like GameStop loved them because the person would basically forfeit their visas if they quit so could abuse them more than a regular worker.

The more power an employer has over a worker and the less rights people who live in the country have, the worse it will be in general.

English common law: a citizen is born in a land and that land was owned by a king. As such, the citizen and the land are like one. Citizens based upon birth are owed protection by the local king, while the local king is owed the work of said citizens.

The tradition of birthright citizenship is far older than the 14th Amendment. People were arguing about this crap in the middle ages.

It looks like much of the Western Hemisphere has jus soli. A quick search says:

• Colombia
• Peru
• Venezuela
• Ecuador
• Paraguay
• Canada
• Mexico
• Argentina
• Brazil
• Chile
• Uruguay

What I can't say is whether, with the exception of Canada and the U.S., that has any impact on the immigration of those countries. I will cop to ignorance, but many of those countries don't seem like they would be a big step up in the world for most people.

I have a friend from Brazil. I don't think he'd recommend being from Brazil. He moved to Portugal.

I know basically nothing about any of those countries other than having vacationed in Mexico twice. I haven't seen anyone say they are fed up with the U.S. and moving to Paraguay.