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submitted 2 days ago by Teknevra to c/queer_defense_front

Over the past month, California Governor Gavin Newsom has been making headlines for all the right reasons: he's led an effort to respond to Texas Republicans' push to further gerrymander their state, used his profile to pressure Border Patrol and ICE, and found a very effective-and hilarious-way to get under Trump's skin through his Press Office's parodies of the president's writing style. All of these actions have catapulted him to national stardom, where he's taken on the role of leading the fight against the Trump administration.

However, to the trans community, his rise only brings fear. Because before these developments, he was trying to win over potential voters in a very different way: by abandoning the LGBTQ+ community.

In the United States, California has long had a reputation. And not just for its stereotyped sunny weather, surfer culture, and affluent, snobby culture, but for its liberal politics as well. California Democrats are synonymous-especially in more Republican-leaning areas-with the liberal style of politics conservatives detest. It's so difficult to overcome that despite California's large population and plethora of Democratic figures with a national profile, of the three presidents from California, none of them have been Democrats.

Evidently, Newsom is facing an uphill battle. So he's set off to appear more palatable to conservatives, starting with LGBTQ+ issues. Beginning in 2024, he started attempting to suppress pro-LGBTQ+ bills while they were still in the legislature in order to keep him from having to either veto them-losing progressives-or sign them-angering conservatives. Then, he went public with his new opinions during a conversation with Charlie Kirk on his podcast earlier this year, calling trans athletes' participation in girls' and women's sports 'deeply unfair.' And more recently, he signalled he changed his stance on gender-affirming care for minors as well.

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[-] neuracnu 47 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Don't let my human rights get in the way of your progress.

[-] hobovision@mander.xyz 10 points 2 days ago

Help move the Overton window left or it will keep moving right.

[-] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Correct you do this by rejecting gavin and those like him who are false friends.

[-] hobovision@mander.xyz 6 points 2 days ago

How well did that go when Kamala was a cop? When Hillary was a corporate lib?

It's possible to support someone for the good things they do and criticize them for the bad. But if you won't do the former then the latter is meaningless.

The left is full of as many simple-minded black-and-white thinkers as the right. Our problem is that the dimwits on the right fall in line and the dimwits on the left cut their nose to spite their face.

[-] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

😂 imagine using the two least popular candidates in the last 30 years as your position's defense.

It worked out exactly like you'd expect they lost. Surprise!

If you don't like it stop voting for shitty candidates like gavin and biden.

[-] hobovision@mander.xyz 2 points 2 days ago

Haha this is exactly my point. Whiny babies didn't like enough Kamala so chose to morally justify doing nothing to stop a fascist from running the government. This despite the fact that nearly all of her policies were significantly closer to theirs than the alternative. But I guess if a candidate crosses the same hard line as their competition, then just not participating will stop you from feeling bad I guess?

[-] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 days ago

'liking' is doing a lot of heavy lifting i think you meant an anti Palestinian, anti trans, antiworker, and genocidal candidate.

It was hardly 'shes not fascist' the cunt was running around with fucking liz chaney for gods sake child.

Anyways thankfully i dont have to deal with you im happy to continue not voting for your shitty candidates.

[-] hobovision@mander.xyz 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Hey thanks for helping elect the candidate who is instead

  • pro Palestine
  • pro trans rights
  • pro workers rights
  • anti genocide
  • pro democracy
  • pro Healthcare
  • pro gay rights
  • pro women's rights
  • pro welfare
  • pro transit
  • pro accessibility
  • pro science
  • pro education
  • anti racism
  • literate
[-] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I didnt vote for him shrug. Its funny how you accuse others as whining but the only one whining here is you.

But please continue dont let me stop you. After all clearly your continued support for absolutely shitty centrists corporate democrats has been hugely successful.

So successful in fact they managed to convince muslim americans to vote for trump out of spite, costing harris two critical states. 😂

[-] piefood@feddit.online 3 points 2 days ago

significantly closer to theirs than the alternative.

Oh? She was against the Genocide? Pro Healthcare for all? Wanted to stop war? Wanted the rich to pay taxes? Wanted to change the immigration system to help people get here and get set up? Wanted to clear out the prisons in favor of programs to help people get back on their feet and become useful members of society? Wanted to stop bombing kids? Wanted to completely restructure the economy so that it works for the people and not the rich? Wanted to tear down the torture prisons? Wanted to completely reform drug laws? Wanted to put war-criminals in prison, even if they are rich and powerful politicians?

Because I didn't get that impression from her campaign, but maybe I just missed it.

[-] hobovision@mander.xyz 1 points 9 hours ago

Oops, didn't want to do a revolution, so basically equivalent to the alternative. Both sides same.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 8 points 2 days ago

Here's the thing with US presidential elections: either the Democratic or Republican candidate will take office. It's not right, it's not good, but it's true. If you want the candidate you want to win the election, you need to get that candidate nominated by one of those two parties. Primaries matter.

Once the primaries are over, you need to vote for the candidate you prefer out of those two. Voting outside of those two, or not at all, gives your electoral support to the candidate you don't want to win.

Yes, you may well be forced to choose between bad and worse. But that's the choice you have. To be clear, I really don't want Newsom to rise for all sorts of reasons. However, I can't deny that his tactics against Trump right now are brilliant, and taking on the Texas redistricting nonsense head on is a good thing.

Your human rights, along with a whole lot of other people's, are in serious jeopardy right now. Is Newsom doing things right now that are supportive of those rights? Yes.

[-] Laurentide@pawb.social 7 points 2 days ago

Is Newsom doing things right now that are supportive of those rights? Yes.

Are you aware that you are posting this to Blahaj Zone?

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 days ago

People don't vote this way and you can't make them.

[-] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 days ago

Incorrect as harris found out. Its best you stop living in this fairy land of yours.

If dems want to win they need to start meeting their base where its at.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

What if I don’t want either to win?

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 2 points 2 days ago

Yes, you may well be forced to choose between bad and worse. But that's the choice you have.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

What a stupid country.

I hate it here.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 2 points 2 days ago

You'll get no argument from me on that.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

And the worst part is that by constantly having to choose between bad and worse it will only get stupider.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 3 points 2 days ago
[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Can my friends be woodland creatures and not humans?

Humans are loud and smelly and demanding. I hate being around them. They just cause all kinds of trouble, like how I have to choose between bad and worse.

But if the country is going to fall anyway, maybe I don’t have to vote at all….

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 2 points 2 days ago

As long as they can load magazines, operate a trigger, and successfully clear malfunctions.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I’d trust a squirrel to do that over a human any day.

[-] TommySoda@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

The enemy of my enemy is my friend. When none of us have any rights left it won't even matter anymore. I understand the need to draw this line and stick to it and we should not overlook his treatment of transgender people, but the fact of the matter is we don't really get to pick and choose our allies right now. Personally, I have never liked the guy and never will, but he's at least fucking trying to do something while other politicians bend over or stick their head in the sand and wait for someone else to do something.

[-] piefood@feddit.online 9 points 2 days ago

Sometimes the enemy of my enemy is also my enemy. If someone is willing to sell out one group of people, they are also willing to sell out other groups.

And Newsome has been very clear that he's willing to sell out multiple groups of people.

[-] mathemachristian 3 points 1 day ago

Kamala has been clear about selling out the palestinian people but eperyone kept believing her that she wouldn't sell them out.

[-] piefood@feddit.online 4 points 1 day ago

Right? I keep hearing people say that she only said that she would side with Israel to get votes, but she was actually really secretly against the genocide. Just like I saw people say that Biden was "working tirelessly" to stop the genocide. It's been pretty obvious that wasn't true, but I guess calling a spade a spade is too much for some people.

[-] mathemachristian 5 points 1 day ago

from https://citationsneeded.medium.com/news-brief-us-media-top-dems-assist-trump-and-israels-unprovoked-attack-on-iran-d391810dc29b

And what the 2024 nominee, Kamala Harris, who, you know, the presumptive or leading nominee for 2028, she’s she signaled she’s going to run again. One would be curious what she would say about this. She has not commented. She lost the election about seven months ago. Has not commented at all on Gaza, except twice to hand-wring about Israeli hostages. She’s not opposed anything Trump has done with respect to the genocide in Gaza, not publicly at least. She hasn’t publicly condemned anything that Trump has done with respect to Iran. And the bombing happened last night. Since then, she hasn’t issued a statement. She hasn’t condemned it. She hasn’t opposed it. Now, a lot of people say, Oh, well, Harris would have been better than Trump. Again, very possible, but the one person in the world who could solve this mystery, which is Kamala Harris herself, has yet to criticize Trump on the subject of Israel at all.

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