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Nvidia’s finally replacing GeForce Experience with this all-in-one ‘Nvidia app’ - The Verge (www.theverge.com)
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RIP Gamestream?

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[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 132 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean, cool, they're finally replacing Geforce Experience, one of the worst pieces of software ever made.

But they're replacing it with shit that commits all the same crimes. Locally run webserver hosting web interfaces and a website running in a packaged Chrome accesses. Instead of something utterly wild like oh I don't know, actually building a piece of software not a web page!

Also it still commits the cardinal crime of letting 11y old me do the design and what I thought was "COOOOOL!", instead of just, you know, looking like an app. In the design language of the OS. Which would be wild, I know.

[-] xyguy@startrek.website 55 points 1 year ago

Hey at least you won't have to sign in anymore just to get automatic driver update checking.

[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

That is true. I will say, even with all the features dropped, this is a step in the right direction.

It's a small one overall, but credit where credit is due, this shows promise. Just wish the underlying architecture were better, it's still based on the packaged chrome thing.

[-] hperrin@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

But being forced to create an account for basic software features is my favorite part!

[-] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You need an account for update checks? Yet another stupid NVidia antifeature that NVCleanstall saves me from, I guess...

[-] BaardFigur@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Yes and it sucks

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[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

I fucking work in web development, and I’d rather a UI for a desktop app be built in a native coding framework.

It doesn’t even connect well to all the system level shit it needs to do. EA’s app had a million issues with this.

[-] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

If they're replacing GeForce experience.... Is that going to break moonlight?

[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

By itself, yes. GameStream is EOL. And this is said end, it seems.

Your replacement option is Sunshine, or switching to using a steam link setup.

[-] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

Shit that what I meant to put. Will this affect Sunshine?

[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Not for me, no. Sunshine is already the open re-implementation of the gamestream component of Geforce Experience.

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[-] kindenough@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

one of the worst pieces of software ever made

That's kind of an understatement.

[-] tgxn@lemmy.tgxn.net 2 points 1 year ago

Hey, Logitech G-Hub is bad too!!

[-] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 2 points 1 year ago

Agreed. They are planning to take away the control panel so we'll be stuck with this dogshit. Hopefully someone makes something similar to nvidia profile inspector to simulate the old drivers so we remove this new app bullshit.

[-] SquigglyEmpire@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Ughhh. I don't want the GeForce Experience bloatware anywhere near my machine so this does not bode well.

[-] DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works 72 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How about just let us download our fucking drivers through a regular package manager like all our other updates you privacy raping shit gibbons?

[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Does this not work for you? Seems simple enough.

https://www.nvidia.com/download/index.aspx

[-] DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago

Definitely better than GeForce Experience but not exactly what I'm talking about either.

[-] beefcat@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Damn, who shit in your cornflakes this morning?

Their drivers have always been available directly from their website.

This app is just for Windows, I’m not sure why you’re blabbing on about package managers

[-] fushuan@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Windows has 3 package managers. Chocolatey and scoop are third party while winget ia supported by Microsoft. There's even a 3rd party made winget gui that interacts with all package managers. BTW, you can download windows store apps through the package manager, and shocker, it installs faster then from the store.

So yeah, having nvidia drivers through any of the package managers would be cool.

[-] beefcat@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I’m well aware of these. Winget is a disaster of a package manager. All of them just download and run conventional installers with none of the tidiness you get with real package managers on systems actually designed for them. It’s fun watching winget update an app that already updated itself. Do any other GPU vendors typically distribute their drivers through winget?

But the real answer here is Windows Update, which Nvidia does publish drivers through. But not game ready versions, only WHQL certified builds.

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[-] DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nvidia shit in my cornflakes, obviously.

[-] beefcat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

by….not putting their driver on winget?

[-] DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Let's not pretend like they aren't pushing people to use their data harvesting app.

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[-] Rooki@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago

At least you can still download just the driver. Its literally just bloatware from your graphics card manufacture.

[-] DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

You can try, but those assholes will keep trying to get your data

[-] Rooki@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Just on install, the legal stuff you need to accept is just creepy af. Next time i will get a AMD graphics card, it has a lot more open drivers ( especially because i am a linux user )

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 9 points 1 year ago

Good, I've unchecked movies experience so many times

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

Imagine if your GPU drivers just updated through your package manager. We could have so much automated shit but Nvidia needs tk collect your personal data so heres a web page disguised ss an app. I fucken hate this shit.

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[-] BloodSlut@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

if nvidia spent as much time on their drivers as they do on their failed software attempts the drivers might actually work

[-] Heavybell@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

Geforce Experience had a non-zero percent influence on my choice to go radeon this time around. I doubt this replacement would fare any better, by the sounds of things.

[-] Lemonparty@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago

Nvidia experience has gotten so bad that I actually download drivers manually from the site again. It should not take 3+ minutes to start a program that does virtually nothing and THEN make me login to even fucking use it - just to update the driver.

[-] miss_brainfarts 9 points 1 year ago

I'm using NVCleanstall, it let's let's you configure exactly what components you want installed or not. Can even choose not to install the HDMI audio driver if you don't have a need for it.

[-] Owljfien@iusearchlinux.fyi 9 points 1 year ago

Their normal installer allows the hdmi to be removed too, was so happy when I discovered that because I want my monitor to act as speakers exactly never

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[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

I don't even use this app on my windows install. As soon as it made me log in I just uninstalled it. Why the fuck would I need to enable data collection to tweak the video card I bought off them? It's bullshit.

[-] avater@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Using the Radeon software is such a good experience. I never had any issues with it or the driver, they are looking clean, are responsive and actually helpful.

Hope that you get a similar experience, for how expensive Nvidia is it should be mandatory to have a good software...

[-] yamanii@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I went the other way, I do miss the control radeon had, now I have to use afterburner to do the fan control stuff.

[-] Pinecone@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It's completely optional. All the real driver options are in the control panel.

[-] tb_@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Given how atrocious it is to download drivers from their website...

You're mostly right but damn, their offerings aren't pretty.

[-] gerbler@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I haven't used NVIDIA for drivers in years. You can use NVCleanstall to install them without all the crap.

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[-] mlg@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I never realized how stupid GeForce Experience was until I built a PC for someone and realized I'd have to explain to them that they need to register an account on a special software just to keep their GPU driver updated.

Even with the insanity of Nvidia on linux, all I have to do is sudo dnf install akmod-nvidia once and let dnf handle updates automatically.

[-] rdri@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Is it another electron app?

[-] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago

With 10x the tracking, and "AI" to scan your files to help "optimize" your experience?

[-] Jessvj93@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

The RTX HDR is fucking lit, especially on emulators cause reshade HDR just was, alright.

[-] rustyredox@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Any recommendations for fine tuning Sunshine to match Nvidia's local Gamestream? I haven't had much luck in getting Sunshine to run as smoothly at 4K 120Hz HDR 150Mbps via LAN as Nvidia's deprecated streaming server software, so have to slow to migrate over.

[-] PHLAK@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Sunshine/Moonlight should perform better than Gamestream at the default settings.Try turning down your bitrate. 4K will work fine at 100Mbps.

[-] neatchee@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Uh sunshine is usually MORE performant, not less. I would suggest heading to the Moonlight/Sunshine discord server and requesting help there.

Personally I have no issues streaming 4k@60 150mbps on a wired connection with moonlight and sunshine. Would try @120 if I had a display that supported it lol

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago

Gamestream was already killed, no? I had to install Sunshine to carry on using Moonlight on my Nvidia Shield.

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